Brexit, for once some facts.

50Hertz

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Something for the Brexiteers to consider when they imagine we are popular in the world
I have news for you... we aren't!
Here's a map of countries that have gained independence from the UK


And how many have come back?
NONE
And before too long the map will change again when Scotland and Northern Ireland go.

The most likely reason is this
"The English were either thrown out - or asked to leave. Mainly to do with theirinterpretation of democracy and control. "We believe in democracy once we are more equal than everyone else, and we get the final say on everything.
And walk off with the national assets"
The U.K. is a very popular place for people to come to. Many want to live here, so we must be very popular in the world. Not at all like you are suggesting.
 

flecc

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The U.K. is a very popular place for people to come to. Many want to live here, so we must be very popular in the world. Not at all like you are suggesting.
There's a big difference between a country wanting to be run by the UK and individuals wanting to take advantage of our soft touch welfare society.
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jonathan.agnew

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Not true, OldTom never at any time posted the words erectile dysfunction in his years on this forum.
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That's heartening, not least for Tom (Im not about to read 20000 pages to find out who he was, but can assure whoever reads this, I have no idea. I do think there's a difference between robust disagreement and trolling and some here have crossed that and that it doesn't do anyone any favours)
 
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tommie

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That's heartening, not least for Tom (Im not about to read 20000 pages to find out who he was, but can assure whoever reads this, I have no idea. I do think there's a difference between robust disagreement and trolling and some here have crossed that and that it doesn't do anyone any favours)
you`ve probably missed my previous question or you can`t think of an answer but....

Dear Jon/Tom,
Just in case you haven`t noticed this is an Ebike forum, the title `Pedelecs` sorta gives it away.
When a new member joins this site believe it or not it`s because either he/she has an ebike, about to buy an ebike or just has a genuine interest in ebikes. The first thing they will do is either seek information or relate their pleasure in this great mode of transport.
You on the other hand have made a bee-line straight for this Brexit thread -
since you joined you have not made a post about ebikes at all.... all of your 28 posts just in this thread!!!.................

https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/search/26121/

so Jon lets tell the guys and gals why you`ve only posted in this thread ??
 
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Danidl

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The U.K. is a very popular place for people to come to. Many want to live here, so we must be very popular in the world. Not at all like you are suggesting.
Many people speak English ,of one form or another. They have their native language and they have English. So the English language is very popular. Rather than pick up what is another foreign language. Like Greek ot French or German. Or Dutch. I recall being on a campsite in France some two decades ago where a number of the children,including mine were playing together. There were German , Dutch, Irish and perhaps English, and of course they all spoke English.
These economic migrants ,They may also have those old biscuit tins with tower bridge and beefeaters. The only thing i do not believe is that they are going to the UK to be welfare cheats. They want a chance in life.
 
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oldgroaner

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What has that got to do with Brexit you rude and ignorant old man?

The last page and a half has you extruding post after post insulting or attacking other posters. Yet nothing about Brexit.

Do you understand the term projecting? I will help you out.

It's when someone uses an insult such as, say, trolling and what they are really doing is masking their own inadequacies.

@jonathan.agnew are you a socialist?
I'll use small words so with luck you will understand.
The purpose of posting this graphic is to dispel any idea among the Brexit faithful, that we the UK enjoy a special affection among the nations of the world.
We do not, and by the way I have simply pointed out that your posts are all simply Trolling at it's worst.
If you find the notion insulting, post on topic and stop trolling.
 
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oldgroaner

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Why didn't you get a flu jab? They are free on the NHS for the likes of you. I had one. Although I paid for it.

You only have yourself to blame.

Next time. Think.
Trolling again, and with malice too.
Both my wife and I did too, so now who is to blame?
Next time, keep your mouth shut, or at least sit down so your voice is muffled.
 

Fingers

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Trolling again, and with malice too.
Both my wife and I did too, so now who is to blame?
Next time, keep your mouth shut, or at least sit down so your voice is muffled.

You've just got a bad cold then. I had that. Just getting over it now. Drink plenty of fluids and I highly recommend those effervescent vitamin C tablets that dissolve in water. They really help.
 

oldgroaner

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The U.K. is a very popular place for people to come to. Many want to live here, so we must be very popular in the world. Not at all like you are suggesting.
The inference is obvious, they prefer to keep us at arms length, nothing to do with coming here, has it?
It means we can only expect to be treated as outsiders, not favoured friends.
 

oldgroaner

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You've just got a bad cold then. I had that. Just getting over it now. Drink plenty of fluids and I highly recommend those effervescent vitamin C tablets that dissolve in water. They really help.
Just finished the seven day course of Amoxycylin and been prescribed vitamins.
 

oldgroaner

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you`ve probably missed my previous question or you can`t think of an answer but....

Dear Jon/Tom,
Just in case you haven`t noticed this is an Ebike forum, the title `Pedelecs` sorta gives it away.
When a new member joins this site believe it or not it`s because either he/she has an ebike, about to buy an ebike or just has a genuine interest in ebikes. The first thing they will do is either seek information or relate their pleasure in this great mode of transport.
You on the other hand have made a bee-line straight for this Brexit thread -
since you joined you have not made a post about ebikes at all.... all of your 28 posts just in this thread!!!.................

https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/search/26121/

so Jon lets tell the guys and gals why you`ve only posted in this thread ??
He spotted an idiot he wanted to "Have a go at?" perchance?
 

Fingers

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I'll use small words so with luck you will understand.
The purpose of posting this graphic is to dispel any idea among the Brexit faithful, that we the UK enjoy a special affection among the nations of the world.
We do not, and by the way I have simply pointed out that your posts are all simply Trolling at it's worst.
If you find the notion insulting, post on topic and stop trolling.

We are highly respected around the world. Maybe the places you go are not frequented by with locals who have a love for us as they have to serve us and its their job. But ask someone more traveled like @Zlatan and I bet he will tell you that we are very well regarded abroad.

I've never had anything but respect apart from one time in Berlin when I got a bit lost in East Berlin and an old woman shouted at us from across the platform and spat at us. The locals we told were horrified.
 

50Hertz

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There's a big difference between a country wanting to be run by the UK and individuals wanting to take advantage of our soft touch welfare society.
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Then they want to cherry pick. They want the advantages of living in the U.K. and its benevolent systems, but not have uk rule. A bit like Scotland.

The fact remains then that the U.K. is popular and people want to come to the U.K. to live, to work or to use the soft touch welfare society.
 
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oldgroaner

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We are highly respected around the world. Maybe the places you go are not frequented by with locals who have a love for us as they have to serve us and its their job. But ask someone more traveled like @Zlatan and I bet he will tell you that we are very well regarded abroad.

I've never had anything but respect apart from one time in Berlin when I got a bit lost in East Berlin and an old woman shouted at us from across the platform and spat at us. The locals we told were horrified.
Nice little dream and Zlatan has had a go at the natives more times than you've had hot dinners!
Travelling as a a privileged and cosseted westerner doesn't make you an expert on the lives of people in far away places, when you clearly know next to nothing about the lives of the poor in your own country.
 

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