Going hard on socialism? now there's a strange way of getting excited!
Still, Trolls are strange creatures after all.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Still, Trolls are strange creatures after all.
You are losing your way again, to fall in with the Three Stooges tribute band again.
Stick to thinking for yourself
Exposed? because one man on one side is a drunken incompetent and the one on your side is a scheming loud mouthed vulgar liar who allegedly made money speculating on the referendum result with a phoney early admission of defeat?
Do explain
What is the difference?
As ever pleasantness personified and from a poster who shares many attributes with Tom and I wonder what else.
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Something for the Brexiteers to consider when they imagine we are popular in the world
I have news for you... we aren't!
Here's a map of countries that have gained independence from the UK
And how many have come back?
NONE
And before too long the map will change again when Scotland and Northern Ireland go.
The most likely reason is this
"The English were either thrown out - or asked to leave. Mainly to do with theirinterpretation of democracy and control. "We believe in democracy once we are more equal than everyone else, and we get the final say on everything.
And walk off with the national assets"
I have news for you... we aren't!
Here's a map of countries that have gained independence from the UK
And how many have come back?
NONE
And before too long the map will change again when Scotland and Northern Ireland go.
The most likely reason is this
"The English were either thrown out - or asked to leave. Mainly to do with theirinterpretation of democracy and control. "We believe in democracy once we are more equal than everyone else, and we get the final say on everything.
And walk off with the national assets"
It did sound unconventional treatment for erectile dysfunction (as trollsoften suffer from)
Why are you aligning yourself with these Leave campaign drop outs?
Because one is one of the most important men on planet and has more influence over our lives than our own pm and other is a right wing out of work chancer.
Come on OG we all know that's Tom. I think he even used that very line weeks ago. Not gifted either.
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If you, d bothered to read posts you would know Fingers and I disagree on some quite fundamental points. (Mays deal to start with) Difference is we can disagree with each other without resorting to insult, a concept yourself and Tom/JA find impossible.
You are coming over sadder than normal OG. Hope things are OK...
Another Brexit dream blown out of the water
"Doing a Singapore"
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-06/u-k-can-t-use-singapore-as-post-brexit-model-premier-lee-says
U.K. Can’t Use Singapore as Post-Brexit Model, Premier Lee Says
The U.K. can’t use Singapore as a post-Brexit model of a small nation that succeeded after leaving a bigger union because the two nations exited under different circumstances, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said.
The two countries also have "completely different" histories and social welfare systems, Lee said in an interview with Bloomberg Editor-in-Chief John Micklethwait at the New Economy Forum in Singapore. He was responding to a question on whether London can be a "Singapore on the Thames" after Brexit.
“You will have to find a different way to prosper having made the decision to leave the EU," Lee said. "Maybe, maybe if you look at Singapore, you might think you have some ideas that you can use, we hope so. But I don’t think you can take one society’s solution and just plonk it on a different society."
Singapore was expelled from the Malayan Federation in 1965, two years after it was amalgamated into the newly independent country of Malaysia. For at least the first decade of independence, the city’s size -- it’s smaller than New York City and the only Southeast Asian nation without natural resources -- led to concerns about its viability as an independent state. The government fostered the development of electronics and chemical industries, promoted trade and drew overseas investment.
The U.K. and Singapore governments spend differently on social support systems, Lee said late Tuesday. The New Economy Forum is being organized by Bloomberg Media Group, a division of Bloomberg LP, the parent company of Bloomberg News.
"Britain has developed a system of state welfare, of government role in the system where the government accounts for 40 to 45 percent of the GDP," he said. "The Singapore government accounts for 16 percent of the GDP, maybe 17 percent. So to say that you’re going to be like Singapore, are you going to give up two-thirds of your government spending, state pensions and national health?"
Actually if you want to start civil war, you couldn't make a better start than to try this, and believe me, right wingers are indeed easily stupid enough to think this is a good idea
"Doing a Singapore"
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-06/u-k-can-t-use-singapore-as-post-brexit-model-premier-lee-says
U.K. Can’t Use Singapore as Post-Brexit Model, Premier Lee Says
The U.K. can’t use Singapore as a post-Brexit model of a small nation that succeeded after leaving a bigger union because the two nations exited under different circumstances, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said.
The two countries also have "completely different" histories and social welfare systems, Lee said in an interview with Bloomberg Editor-in-Chief John Micklethwait at the New Economy Forum in Singapore. He was responding to a question on whether London can be a "Singapore on the Thames" after Brexit.
“You will have to find a different way to prosper having made the decision to leave the EU," Lee said. "Maybe, maybe if you look at Singapore, you might think you have some ideas that you can use, we hope so. But I don’t think you can take one society’s solution and just plonk it on a different society."
Singapore was expelled from the Malayan Federation in 1965, two years after it was amalgamated into the newly independent country of Malaysia. For at least the first decade of independence, the city’s size -- it’s smaller than New York City and the only Southeast Asian nation without natural resources -- led to concerns about its viability as an independent state. The government fostered the development of electronics and chemical industries, promoted trade and drew overseas investment.
The U.K. and Singapore governments spend differently on social support systems, Lee said late Tuesday. The New Economy Forum is being organized by Bloomberg Media Group, a division of Bloomberg LP, the parent company of Bloomberg News.
"Britain has developed a system of state welfare, of government role in the system where the government accounts for 40 to 45 percent of the GDP," he said. "The Singapore government accounts for 16 percent of the GDP, maybe 17 percent. So to say that you’re going to be like Singapore, are you going to give up two-thirds of your government spending, state pensions and national health?"
Actually if you want to start civil war, you couldn't make a better start than to try this, and believe me, right wingers are indeed easily stupid enough to think this is a good idea
Actually I am down with the Flu, what saddens me is you lowering yourself to the level of the Three Stooges.
perhaps they could turn Northern Ireland into Singapore in the West.
I wonder who the low wage Malaysian workers will be replaced with.
A little bonkers indeed.
In many societies - Singapore is one - the family is a tight knit group which covers many of the tasks social security takes care of in the UK. This same family unity works in Greece, Spain, southern Italy, Portugal and to a lesser extent in parts of southern France.
Is the UK family a tight knit group which is able to face up to external social pressures? Unemployement, health, hands on care of the elderly?
well I thought it was quite gifted...(if tom, whoever he is, used it, I'd consider it a compliment), however, in the oldgroaner's spirit of reengaging you in a more civil meaningful discourse, congratulations on getting back on topic
Something for the Brexiteers to consider when they imagine we are popular in the world
I have news for you... we aren't!
Here's a map of countries that have gained independence from the UK
And how many have come back?
NONE
And before too long the map will change again when Scotland and Northern Ireland go.
The most likely reason is this
"The English were either thrown out - or asked to leave. Mainly to do with theirinterpretation of democracy and control. "We believe in democracy once we are more equal than everyone else, and we get the final say on everything.
And walk off with the national assets"
What has that got to do with Brexit you rude and ignorant old man?
The last page and a half has you extruding post after post insulting or attacking other posters. Yet nothing about Brexit.
Do you understand the term projecting? I will help you out.
It's when someone uses an insult such as, say, trolling and what they are really doing is masking their own inadequacies.
@jonathan.agnew are you a socialist?
We dont know I, m not Zlatan Ibrohimivic, but its a safe bet.
Its Tom, you dont need to be Sherlock do you, but I couldnt care less if Tom needs to hide his identity after being so horrible. He obviously feels guilty, so thats fair enough.
Why didn't you get a flu jab? They are free on the NHS for the likes of you. I had one. Although I paid for it.
You only have yourself to blame.
Next time. Think.