Brexit, for once some facts.

OxygenJames

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And what has remoaners to do with wishing to be part of the EU. .. has your spelling checker a problem or are you trying to make as point ..instead of just being trying?.
btw - perhaps before you try to educate me you could start with yourself - and the basics of written English - like you don't put an extra full-stop after a question mark at the end of a sentence.

You're very welcome. Anytime.
 
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OxygenJames

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Yes - a serious issue. Just the other day we were reassured that, should it prove necessary, aircraft will be chartered to fly in supplies. Obviously, we have to accept that they could arrive at random airports, at random times, depending on the flight of the bumblebees/phoenix/drones.
There will be disruption for sure. We all knew that. Well I did. To me it was about getting out of a club I never wanted to join in the first place.
 
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Health and safety out of control. I bet one of those Jet engines could eat-up and spit out one of those drones. They can handle up to 5 birds and once so I read once - its only a full flock they struggle with. One Drone? No problem. Unless you're a Remainer - then EVERYTHING IS A PROBLEM.
Five birds with carbon fibre wings?
 
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anotherkiwi

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Have you seen the size of those engines? My hunch is they'd have no problem with one small drone.



Now that is a bird strike. Imagine what chunks of carbon fibre and an exploding LiPo battery would do in there.

The plane probably wouldn't crash and burn but a whole heap of $$$ would be required to get the motor back to a state that would pass pre-flight checking.

There was a drone strike in France recently, it left a dent on the wing of an Airbus.
 
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Danidl

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It's economics changed from being 'red' to full-blooded capitalist just about the same time their levels of poverty started to plummet.

Which of course was my point.
Not so. Single party rule, law organised in such a way that community rights trample over individual rights . And dare I say it a common market covering 1 billion people in a very strict union of countries. The ruling party waxes and wanes it's" capitalism" as it suits their collective good.
 
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Danidl

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btw - perhaps before you try to educate me you could start with yourself - and the basics of written English - like you don't put an extra full-stop after a question mark at the end of a sentence.

You're very welcome. Anytime.
Educate ? You ? I relish a challenge,but even that might be beyond me.
 
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Now that is a bird strike. Imagine what chunks of carbon fibre and an exploding LiPo battery would do in there.

The plane probably wouldn't crash and burn but a whole heap of $$$ would be required to get the motor back to a state that would pass pre-flight checking.

There was a drone strike in France recently, it left a dent on the wing of an Airbus.
In a previous life I used to be involved in the flight certification testing of new engine types for Rolls Royce. Amongst other things, demonstrating that the engine could cope with 8 bird ingestion was part of the process. We used a cannon to fire them in at 180 knots. The rules stated “birds” so we used specially sourced ducklings, freshly killed and exactly the minimum specified weight. Ducklings have a very soft bone structure. Despite all of this, they still inflicted a great deal of damage, reducing engine power by a significant margin.

If a lump like a drone went into an engine at 180 knots and hit near the centre, it would go into the core and mist likely destroy it.
 
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Fingers

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Now that is a bird strike. Imagine what chunks of carbon fibre and an exploding LiPo battery would do in there.

The plane probably wouldn't crash and burn but a whole heap of $$$ would be required to get the motor back to a state that would pass pre-flight checking.

There was a drone strike in France recently, it left a dent on the wing of an Airbus.

Get some fishing line and some blu tack and create a mesh over the engine and get this country in the air again!
 

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In a previous life I used to be involved in the flight certification testing of new engine types for Rolls Royce. Amongst other things, demonstrating that the engine could cope with 8 bird ingestion was part of the process. We used a cannon to fire them in at 180 knots. The rules stated “birds” so we used specially sourced ducklings, freshly killed and exactly the minimum specified weight. Ducklings have a very soft bone structure. Despite all of this, they still inflicted a great deal of damage, reducing engine power by a significant margin.

If a lump like a drone went into an engine at 180 knots and hit near the centre, it would go into the core and mist likely destroy it.
I remember when the RAE at Farnborough created a chicken firing cannon long ago for like tests. They used to do a lot of damage too. I also think a drone could do considerable engine damage and the risk far too high to be chanced, especially on planes full of passengers.
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I remember when the RAE at Farnborough created a chicken firing cannon long ago for like tests. They used to do a lot of damage too. I also think a drone could do considerable engine damage and the risk far too high to be chanced, especially on planes full of passengers.
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Fishing line. 10 pound strength minimum and blue tack.

It’s the only way to be sure.
 

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