Good job you don't live in my house Flecc. Wife or daughters would hang you.. I, ll assume your comment is in jest.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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I think cancelling Article 50 is the best option to escape the current mess, but with a clear promise agreed by all parliamentary parties that we return to the issue in X years time. We owe that to the Leavers. That gives time for all the factors have become more clear, free of campaigning propaganda. A future referendum must have a sensible fixed pass level to be implemented, to avoid a repeat of this mess.
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No it was meant. Women have many valuable attributes, but a stubborn refusal to change their mind isn't one of them. Men are much better at expediency (being two faced).
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That's why our last two world wars were started by men then. We ve seen on here males incapable of changing their opinions.. Sorry Flecc, We ll have to agree to disagree.Women have had a bad deal and it continues. To be male equals... they have to be better.
The last "War" where we acted as an independent nation was the Falklands, so your notion that women can't start wars as her incompetent message to the Argentinians did by withdrawing the Patrol ship, indicating we were no longer interested clearly signalled is clearly nonsense
We have also seen on here males who haven't changed their opinions because they thought for themselves and came to the right decision to start with.
From Day one of the debate I haven't seen any evidence, opinion or facts that carried sufficient conviction to make me change my mind, and the more I have heard,read and wathced, the more certain I become that my decision was made for sound pragmatic reasons and accommodated each additional fact without derailing the first decision.
And I have looked long and hard at all sources of information available to me, only dismissing the information when it loses provable credibiity
if MPs vote down TM's deal twice, a motion of no confidence in government will be called some time in January or early February. Two weeks later, if no party can command a majority, a new GE will be required and TM's government will either have to cancel A50 or ask the EU to extend A50.
I said last 2 world wars and never said anything about whether women were or were not capable of starting wars.
I was countering flecc's sexiest ancient views about women.
As normal going off half cocked and aiming at wrong folk.
The following women leaders of major countries started or waged unnecessary wars as well, so that's an empty argument:
Margaret Thatcher, Indira Gandhi, Sirimavo Bandaranaike, Eva Peron, Golda Meir, Soon Ching-ling, Aung San Suu Kyi, Khaleda Zia, Chandrika Kumaratunga and probably more I don't know of.
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That's a competition to see who gets the most viewers switching off.
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You are as normal missing the point. You could, actually bet you do, have an argument in an empty house.
Flecc was justifying women being excluded from high office on lack of certain abilities,and suggesting Merkel and Thatcher were such examples proving his point. Women are equally talented in every respect and only lack certain physical abilities some men can exhibit. Men have started wars, demonstrating an inability to change or modify opinions, stance. Yes, both male and females are capable of such. To justify females being excluded fromm any high office, high rank or any kind of task is pure sexism.
Are you suggesting it isn't, agreeing with me, or are you also of the opinion EU is correct in only having wealthy male (and white) folk in high posts in Brussels.
I suspect neither you are just arguing for arguings sake. You thrive on it. Now feck off back to Co op.
Corbyn is looking for a get out. His Brexit stance is worse than governments, he obviously knows so.
There was a bio-documentary of Merkel on arte recently, we got to see the day she changed her mind on immigration. She was giving a speech to a group of migrants and one young girl said her family hadn't been accepted and was being sent back to Syria and burst into tears.
Merkel came over to console her all the while saying "the law is the same for everyone, we can't make exceptions". Two week later she opened Germany's borders...
So stubborn women who were once scientists can have their opinion changed (without being two faced).
Merkel came over to console her all the while saying "the law is the same for everyone, we can't make exceptions". Two week later she opened Germany's borders...
So stubborn women who were once scientists can have their opinion changed (without being two faced).
I agree with you and its a good example. But we should not even be making distinction. People are capable of all kinds of behaviour, capabilities and achievements regardless of sex, colour, race or even how they voted. The fact we still make the distinction means we are still prejudiced, all of us to a greater or lesser degree.
Somebody actually thinking women are somehow less capable of modifying their opinions than men in 2018 simply amazes me. It's incredible.
Not ancient views, just those formed by relatively recent experiences.
I'm not disputing female capabilities and potential, and I fully agree that they have had a raw deal for centuries. The fact that continues is largely their own fault now though, considering the breadth of power they now have but too often fail to exercise.
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You are like a clockwork toy far too easily wound up
No one is disputing the abilities of women, just pointing out they are equally prone to making wrong decisions. [emoji16]
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Its definitely better to remain than take this bat **** crazy bag lady's plan.
Although I would still like to see us negotiate with the real threat of a no deal in place.
But nobody said they weren't.
https://www.politico.eu/article/gender-representation-europe-women-workplace-glass-ceiling-report/
The EU set a target of 40% for female occupancy for management roles for all EU companies. It hasn't even achieved it within the EU hierarchy. (Last figure I found was 28% within Brussels. Name me one prominent female EU politician.. (not Merkel or May)
The EU is a sexist employer. Fact. Flecc justified it. OG backs Flecc to argue. Well done OG. Not sure why OG even commented. Backs flecc and then back pedals..
Did you know that Germany is urging France to give up its UN Security Council seat to replace it with an EU one?
You've got the Irish woman and the woman who brokered the nucleat deal with Iran.
OG is just a ranter bless. Sitting in soiled trousers tapping away at the acorn computer in his care home.
NURSE!