I nominate RT for the job (They invested more than anyone else in Brexit)
Brexit, for once some facts.
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And of course we can take polls as accurate???
First of all would voters actually turn out to vote again. Yes, all those on here would but there is growing apathy and couldn't care less..
And assume remain wins? Who leads that Tory govt ? And then the worst scenario. Assume leave wins. (again)... We crash out. May's Brino is best option at moment..
Polls aren’t what they used to be.
I wouldn’t be surprised if leave extended their majority. Project fear doesn’t work in this country.
Contrary to what you read here most folks in this country are not sheeple. We don’t like to be pushed around.
Yvette Cooper has just summed up what's wrong with Labour. Basically they are thick
She tells May that she won't take country to a no deal situation if her plan gets voted down.. If May's plan is voted down its out of May's hands. Cooper is assuming May would go for a second ref. But May knows full well that answers nothing and could easily make matters worse(a leave vote) and a remain vote would see May's position untenable. If May is in charge there will be no second ref.
Perhaps May should put second ref forward now.
A) accept her deal.
B) remain.
There really isn't any other offers, unless we are brave enough to take EU to brink, which we have proved.... we are not.
She tells May that she won't take country to a no deal situation if her plan gets voted down.. If May's plan is voted down its out of May's hands. Cooper is assuming May would go for a second ref. But May knows full well that answers nothing and could easily make matters worse(a leave vote) and a remain vote would see May's position untenable. If May is in charge there will be no second ref.
Perhaps May should put second ref forward now.
A) accept her deal.
B) remain.
There really isn't any other offers, unless we are brave enough to take EU to brink, which we have proved.... we are not.
this state of affairs is aggravated by the fact that all the prominent brexiteers are not paupers.
That's hilarious! the easiest way to con the masses is to tell them someone is bullying them, you were taken by Farage, Boris, Gove etc, and you don't think you're sheeple?
Strange that leave voters were conned en masse, and at the hands of Blithering idiots too?
And now it's happening again, how dumb can people be?.
How much of your Brexit has been "edited out" and is lying on "The cutting room floor?"
If referendums / parliamentary democracy can't get us out the impasse - then some benevolent dictator / God ordained monarch could step in to make the tough decision about where the heck we are heading... ;-)
Think you need some evidence for this. All MP, s are relatively wealthy. Corbyn makes out he, s "working class" but isn't and still accepts his not inconsiderable payments. He is a leaver.
All the prominent players are wealthy..
Aren't you happy waiting for the completion of Vladimir Putin's plan?
Queen wants out.. The HoS not the band. Great idea.. Return to monarchy... better than the anarchy we have at moment. Tom will be bursting.... Again...
That is the problem: Parliament doesn't represent the Public, does it? the only difference between parties is that some pretend to do so.
The EU is just as bad OG. Probably worse and certainly more sexiest. How many females in high office in Brussels...
This get's funnier by the moment as the real Monarch (Last of the Plantagenets) owns a Sheep Farm in Australia, and when approached and asked why don't your press your rightful claim to the throne
Responded with a regal answer
"Aaah shove it!"
I agree, those two are the only viable ways forward now and I'd like the public to take that decision. The public overruling itself on a second vote would be accepted, especially with a larger margin. Being overruled by government wouldn't be accepted.
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Her deal is worse than remaining or no deal. It’s a typical May offer.
Worse than nothing.
Well perhaps we should remain then. (I voted and believe (d) in leave. Is it worth the risk? I, m not sure anymore.
Exactly who is capable of negotiating a better deal now? Corbyn isn't. JRM ? Boris? This deal is as leave as its going to get... Push it further and its no deal or remain... In which case afraid I, m a remainer.
After their experience of our two English female prime ministers and Angela Merkel inviting in migrants by the million, perhaps that shows just how sensible the EU is.
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