Brexit, for once some facts.

[anotherkiwi]

Sometimes looks like Polly was made for now:

For hard-right revolutionaries, Brexit is cover for a different end

Polly Toynbee
A group of extremists within the Tory party would welcome the havoc unleashed by ‘no deal’ to advance their cause

The vultures circle a wounded prime minister, who is attacked by the hordes of extremists in her party while beset by new inconvenient facts daily exposing the damage Brexit can do. Look, the British army is preparing for the worst: emergency troops are at the ready. Operation Temperer, which usually provides soldiers for terrorist attacks, is now ordered to make 10,000 soldiers available to keep order on the streets and in shops, and to distribute emergency medicines in case of a no-deal crash-out.

“Our firms are spending hundreds of millions of pounds preparing for the worst case – and not one penny of it will create new jobs or new products,” warns the Confederation of British Industry chief, Carolyn Fairbairn.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/20/hard-right-brexit-tory-revolution-no-deal-eu

The night of the long knives is nigh...

 

[oldtom]

Things across 'this sceptred isle' have reached a new low. Theresa May's legacy as the worst PM in living memory is reflected in the depleted numbers of police officers, firefighters, prison officers, border agency staff, nurses, doctors, all other NHS staff as well as all other public servants.

The vast, vast majority of these savage cuts occurred on her watch, either in her occupancy of the role of Home Secretary, a role in which she was wholly unsuited, or in her abject failure as a PM, the position she dropped into after Ca-moron exited mainstream politics over his disastrous Prime Ministership, because so very few tories wanted such a poisoned chalice.

The attached link reveals the real-world consequence of May's actions in the north-east and the situation there will be broadly the same across the whole of the UK after 'Brexit' as less and less money becomes available to support essential, mainstream services.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-46261480/hartlepool-the-town-where-police-don-t-come-out

Here is the rest of Shakespeare's words as delivered by John of Gaunt:

This royal throne of kings, this sceptred isle,

This earth of majesty, this seat of Mars,

This other Eden, demi-paradise,

This fortress built by Nature for herself

Against infection and the hand of war,

This happy breed of men, this little world,

This precious stone set in the silver sea,

Which serves it in the office of a wall

Or as a moat defensive to a house,

Against the envy of less happier lands,--

This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England.

The bard would not recognise the land today that caused him to write so dramatically about the Britain of his day.

Tom

 

[oldtom]

Here is the essence of Theresa May's 'Brexit' plan……if it can in any way be described as such:



Tom

 

[oldgroaner]

Some things to consider for leave voters.
Huge sums of money were proven to be provided to fund the leave campaign, even to the extent of using a rule in Northern Ireland to circumvent the maximum total allowed and who is doing so, and a huge propaganda effort expended after the referendum to prevent people changing their minds.
Why?

Let's look at the money first
Why would anyone invest in something unless they are going to profit from it?
And why are the names of the donors kept secret?

There can only be either one or even all four of the following optional answers that fit the question, here they are

1. A Foreign power wants to Damage the EU
2. Commercial interests want the public at their mercy to profit from selling off and privatising National assets like the NHS
   
3. Fascist interests want to destroy worker's protections and rights to run a Singapore style slave labour economy
   
4. to protect the Offshore asset Tax swindles from EU regulations.

If you are in denial about this your alternative reasoning is overdue for public exposure, so now is the time for you to explain why so much dubious money has been invested in Gaining and maintaining the Brexit vote.
And why that is in the Public interest?

 

[Fingers]

Lol. Who are you trying to convince?

 

[oldtom]

Lol. Who are you trying to convince?

Tom

 

[Fingers]

Great thread when Tommy Liar wakes up.

It's either full of daily express or guardian quotes, insults, primary school memes.

Or lies.

 

[oldgroaner]

Lol. Who are you trying to convince?

Actually I am not trying to convince you of anything, just pointing out the obvious and
I am asking you to stop laughing ,fooling around and answer the question.
And your reaction
You can't answer so use LOL like an idiot

You may not realise this , but this thread is approaching 1 million views and currently stands at 995,697 so this is before the eyes of not just the few who post, but many who watch out of interest.

Bearing in mind that you are performing in front of an audience, do you really intend to go on acting the fool and unable to advance anything at all in favour of the leave camp?

I repeat: what is your answer to the question?

 

[oldgroaner]

Great thread when Tommy Liar wakes up.

It's either full of daily express or guardian quotes, insults, primary school memes.

Or lies.

And what are you providing? juvenile sarcastic posts that have done nothing to help the leave cause , but have given the remain side a comedy stooge to use.

 

[Fingers]

And what are you providing? juvenile sarcastic posts that have done nothing to help the leave cause , but have given the remain side a comedy stooge to use.

Help the leave cause?

What are you gibbering about you old goat?

You realise you are on an electric bike forum right? And pleae. Don't try and take the superior high ground. You and your mate are the biggest kids on here. Plaground insults is what you do.

Help the leave cause. You really are a specimen arn't you.

 

[wheeler]

Help the leave cause?

What are you gibbering about you old goat?

You realise you are on an electric bike forum right? And pleae. Don't try and take the superior high ground. You and your mate are the biggest kids on here. Plaground insults is what you do.

Help the leave cause. You really are a specimen arn't you.

A well considered and informative post as ever.

wheeler

 

[oldgroaner]

A well considered and informative post as ever.

wheeler

In his social circle he is considered a "Dangerous Intellectual"

 

[oldgroaner]

Help the leave cause?

What are you gibbering about you old goat?

You realise you are on an electric bike forum right? And pleae. Don't try and take the superior high ground. You and your mate are the biggest kids on here. Plaground insults is what you do.

Help the leave cause. You really are a specimen arn't you.

Yes indeed I am a specimen, as are we all,and once again you failed miserably to answer the questions ,resorting to insults as usual

 

[flecc]

You realise you are on an electric bike forum right?

Actually he's not. This forum is specifically for non electric bike subjects, hence this thread.
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[wheeler]

he is considered a "Dangerous Intellectual"

Half of that assessment is correct.

wheeler

 

[anotherkiwi]

In his social circle he is considered a "Dangerous Intellectual"

Scary when you think there are 17 million of them...

 

[wheeler]

So not well considered and informed.
.

That was my point, OG got it.

 

[flecc]

That was my point, OG got it.

Thanks for explaining, I missed it in the welter of rubbish in this thread.

I've deleted your quote from my post.
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[Fingers]

On Thursday I will show you my national influence.

Some of you will have your minds blown and life will never be the same again.

 

[flecc]

On Thursday I will show you my national influence.

Some of you will have your minds blown and life will never be the same again.

Raoul Moat said something like that before his killing spree and suicide.

Perhaps we'd better alert the police.
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