I don’t see TM doing what JC has said he could support - so he won’t. Where that takes us .... ?
Brexit, for once some facts.
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she could indicate the direction of travel (by not ruling out a customs union).
At the moment, the only thing she has to do is to accept VAT and duty inspections away from the Irish border for a deal to be agreed.
There are already similar checks done in NI for agricultural products. I can't see as a big problem to extend the scheme to other goods.
The FX market knows how easy it is for TM to agree with the EU, that's why the Pound is in holding position this week. Her problem is the conservative conference next week. Once that's over, she can make another step to resolve the Irish border issue.
TBH, a customs union is a small price to pay if we can continue to take advantage of all the existing deals that the EU has signed with other countries.
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Their initial fortunes very long ago were from coal mining, since when they've always prospered in a variety of ways. Being small has many benefits, not least economic flexibility.
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Yes, even London has a vineyard and it's own vintages, the first since the Middle Ages and it's run by the community. This years harvest is particularly good:
Forty Hall Vineyard
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And how much damage do we sustain in the meantime?
No thank you, second best is not enough even temporarily
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No it isn't a small price to pay it is damaging the future of the country and accepting second best and very probably harming the poor to save a mad idea that should have been rejected out of hand
The economy is by no means the most important advantage we are surrendering by leaving the EU.
We are committing an act of political self harm in so doing
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The economy is by no means the most important advantage we are surrendering by leaving the EU.
We are committing an act of political self harm in so doing
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not much, considering that in the last two years, a lot more people have become informed. You are not going to convince people who believe that patriotism equals sovereignty to change their vote and don't underestimate the amount of work to bring ordinary folks to understand WTO, trading blocs and the EU. A majority will accept that frictionless trade with the EU is better than WTO but they won't see that closer political union with the EU27 is better than leaving.
not done bad for producing nothing. Must be lucrative being a tax haven, Now there's a thought
Don't strain yourself there's nothing in that coming your way, rather the opposite, it will cost you.
This country runs lots of Tax Havens and is going down the pan, have you forgotten that?
True, there will always be those unable to grasp reality...
Only suffering real hardship is likely to sway them.
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But I wouldn't be in such a hurry to dismiss the possibility of chaos and disruption after Brexit and accepting Brexit is very unlikely to lead to a return to EU membership if no party is willing to avoid being tainted by complicity with it for the sake of short term popularity.
Claiming "The Will of the people" will turn out to be no more of a defence than
"I was only carrying out orders!" was in earlier times, and it leaves Labour wide open for the propaganda rags to exploit in the future.
Sorry but I believe Corbyn has made a cynical and unnecessary Tactical move that will prove in time to have been a serious Strategic error
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Academic success is by no means essential to be good or even fantastic at something in later life. However, would you trust a doctor to operate on a family member, or hand over your pension pot to some bloke who managed 3 E's at A level. (and at a time you got an E for turning up,) Or perhaps ask someone with similar qualifications to represent you in a court of law. I, d guess none of us would but strangely enough some think a chap with this level of academic achievement is qualified to run country.
I,m as far removed from an academic snob as possible but some jobs demand a mind capable of academia , I, d guess running country is such a job. Head of Labour Party...passing 11 plus and a blood test will suffice at moment.
Corbyn is simply incapable of being a PM, his strategy, manifesto and persona just add more evidence saying same.
I,m as far removed from an academic snob as possible but some jobs demand a mind capable of academia , I, d guess running country is such a job. Head of Labour Party...passing 11 plus and a blood test will suffice at moment.
Corbyn is simply incapable of being a PM, his strategy, manifesto and persona just add more evidence saying same.
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maybe that's why some of the younger voters need a dose of Labour. 3 day weeks lights out at ten and rationing. That'll teach em
his older brother Piers Corbyn is very different. First class student, successful scientist and businessman.
I suppose JC wasn't interested in studying.
If no-deal is just being played as a card, well, the potential issues that keep rolling out, even from non-remain sources, make it utterly unbelievable. But if it is being played as a real option, it is terrifying.
No-deal Brexit 'would stop British farming exports for six months'
National Farmers Union warns of ‘catastrophic’ wait to be approved as an EU food supplier if no deal struck
The National Farmers Union has warned of “catastrophic” consequences for the industry if there is no Brexit deal, after being warned by the EU that the UK faces a six-month wait to be certified as an approved third-country supplier.
This will be a major setback to the food and drink sector, where exports to the EU are worth £13.2bn a year.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/26/no-deal-brexit-will-be-catastrophic-say-british-farmers-national-farmers-union-eu
No-deal Brexit 'would stop British farming exports for six months'
National Farmers Union warns of ‘catastrophic’ wait to be approved as an EU food supplier if no deal struck
The National Farmers Union has warned of “catastrophic” consequences for the industry if there is no Brexit deal, after being warned by the EU that the UK faces a six-month wait to be certified as an approved third-country supplier.
This will be a major setback to the food and drink sector, where exports to the EU are worth £13.2bn a year.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/26/no-deal-brexit-will-be-catastrophic-say-british-farmers-national-farmers-union-eu
Basically , in Principle, thinking and effective action is not limited to those with higher education and in this country the leading Universities and Private schools have turned out some of the worst tricksters and shysters imaginable, that support points of view and anti public actions that would get an approving nod from the shade of Attila the Hun.
Nor am I entirely convinced that the Job of being a politician is beyond the scope of mere mortals and in defence of that viewpoint I give you
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aneurin_Bevan
Who left school initially at thirteen after he did poorly at school and his academic performance was so bad, that his headmaster made him repeat a year. And then had a rather indifferent later education.
It is the spirit of the man or woman that counts in an effective politician, and their moral attitude too, something that the current crop we suffer from lack dismally.
Aneurin achieved the greatest improvement in our long a sordid history by championing the NHS without needing a fancy education to do so.
Don't knock Corbyn on his integrity, commitment and determination, his weakness is when it comes to telling the difference between tactical and strategic decisions and actions, and a somewhat parochial view of what Socialism is all about.
Will it indeed? well then perhaps you would care to tell us what led up to that situation?
Show us the depth of your historical knowledge and explain what the actual event was all about.
Who or what was to blame? why did the labour Government do what it did?
Would a Conservative government done anything differently?