I seem to recall both Cameron and Osborne telling us that a vote to leave meant us leaving the single market and the customs union. This at the time when they were trying to scare everyone to death about the consequences of voting leave. Turned out to be a pile of steaming manure. Elements of remain are still trying to do that but I believe that the British people want to stick by the decision they made. All the waffle and pessimism on this thread is being perpetrated by a few on here who think we should never have had a say in our future. We should just rollover and let those wonderful unelected bureaucrats tell us what to do and how to do it. They have made it as difficult as possible for us to leave (helped to a large degree by our politicians), and using Ireland as a way to stop us from following our own way. Also, ‘proposing’ is not the same as ‘deciding’. A Commission proposal only becomes law if it is approved by both a qualified-majority in the EU Council (unanimity in many sensitive areas) and a simple majority in the European Parliament. In practice this means that after the amendments adopted by the governments and the MEPs, the legislation usually looks very different to what the Commission originally proposed. In this sense, the Commission is much weaker than it was in the 1980s, when it was harder to amend its proposals in the Council and when the European Parliament did not have amendment and veto power.
First of all Cameron wasn't in the leave campaign and this statement demonstrates ignorance of the democratic processes of the EU
". We should just rollover and let those wonderful unelected bureaucrats tell us what to do and how to do it. "
Please check before repeating propaganda, try this for instance
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2016/06/21/is-the-eu-really-run-by-unelected-bureaucrats/
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A popular claim by many supporters of the Leave campaign is that the EU is run by ‘unelected bureaucrats’. How much truth is there behind that claim?
This claim mainly refers to the EU Commission: the EU’s executive body. It is true that the Commission President and the individual Commissioners are not directly elected by the peoples of Europe. So, in that sense, we cannot “throw the scoundrels out”. It is also true that under the provisions of the EU treaty, the Commission has the sole right to propose EU legislation, which, if passed, is then binding on all the EU member states and the citizens of these member states.
But, that’s not the end of the story. First, the Commission’s power to propose legislation is much weaker than it at first seems. The Commission can only propose laws in those areas where the EU governments have unanimously agreed to allow it to do under the EU treaty. Put another way, the Commission can only propose EU laws in areas where the UK government and the House of Commons has allowed it to do so.
Also, ‘proposing’ is not the same as ‘deciding’. A Commission proposal only becomes law if it is approved by both a qualified-majority in the EU Council (unanimity in many sensitive areas) and a simple majority in the European Parliament. In practice this means that after the amendments adopted by the governments and the MEPs, the legislation usually looks very different to what the Commission originally proposed. In this sense, the Commission is much weaker than it was in the 1980s, when it was harder to amend its proposals in the Council and when the European Parliament did not have amendment and veto power."
And your notion
"The EU are afraid that we will be successful in our own right and be a threat to their protectionist cartels. The EU is like a cancer that wraps around your internal organs and gradually saps the life out of it's host and is too far entrenched to cut out. Get out now take the pain and move forward"
Is nothing less than utter nonsense and second hand nonsense at that.
Explain first of all why the EU should be afraid of us being successful? we only survive as a parasite both financially on the EU, and relying on Foreign companies manufacturing goods we can't make ourselves to sell into the EU.
It's more a case that we are a cancer leeching off the EU that the other way round!
No wonder people voted leave if your post indicates the utterly nonsensical ideas that have been sold to them.and they have been gullible enough to believe.
The last line of your post is about 50% correct
We will take the pain alright, but only move backwards, till these ludicrous ideas that the leave voters have are finally exposed as causing so much damage they drop them.
