The reason could have been to stop us leaving,
Or they could have used it to constrain the Government into doing things properly, instead of leaving it to Gina Miller and the courts.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Or they could have used it to constrain the Government into doing things properly, instead of leaving it to Gina Miller and the courts.
One side, or would that be best of three?
Hard Brexit
Soft Brexit
No Brexit
Guess which is my choice?
And by the way the divisions in the voting population were created to bring Brexit about.
The truth is that leaving the EU means that we at the mercy of a pack of utterly incompetent and corrupt politicians that have the best reason they can think of "Dire necessity" to take the voters to the cleaners under the guise "We don't want to do this but it's the Will of the people"
Perhaps you haven't read the EU directives on clamping down on Offshore tax swindles?
Where the heck does bias and petulance come in when there are facts supporting that view?
The Conservatives have never lifted a finger do other than profit from disasters in industry, which we now will need to be revived with great haste, yet there is absolutely no chance of them doing so.
They simply want out of the EU before the proverbial hits that fan
https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/company-tax/anti-tax-avoidance-package/anti-tax-avoidance-directive_en
Only a Government apologist could take the view that they have any intention of doing any other than bleeding the country white because the opportunity provided by Brexit is too good to miss
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currently, the majority (57% according to latest polls) support a soft brexit.
I wonder how any appreciate what that will mean? when even the Government doesn't seem able to? or even what a "Soft Brexit " is?
Let's face it there is precious little to go on other than vague and disconnected promises, because quite simply it's as vague as a Horoscope prediction.
Do you know that the Norway solution is a 'temporary arrangement'? Norwegian government wants to rejoin the EU but the Norwegians do not want to, so they continue with the temporary arrangement.
That's what soft brexit is likely to be. Continue to transit until the EU's average is better than the UK's average, we would be then back in the same situation as in the 70s.
But the fault in that line is the word British. You correctly said you were a citizen of the UK but should also have said you were a citizen of Britain, which is an area, not a nation. If you research this subject as I did long ago you'll find I'm correct.
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Small correction, Norway was never in the EU so cannot rejoin. Indeed their government does want to join.
Their referendum was asking the people to support joining, but they rejected that in favour of continuing with their EEA style arrangement.
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If only ... then I could pretend to be British
Amazing: the EU is privately preparing to extend A50.
Irish prime minister Leo Varadkar said this week that there were “a number of different scenarios that could arise if we’re in a ‘no deal’ situation” by March – acknowledging that it “is possible to extend Article 50 to allow more time for negotiations to take place”.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-plans-uk-leave-postponed-european-union-article-50-theresa-may-a8400441.html
Irish prime minister Leo Varadkar said this week that there were “a number of different scenarios that could arise if we’re in a ‘no deal’ situation” by March – acknowledging that it “is possible to extend Article 50 to allow more time for negotiations to take place”.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-plans-uk-leave-postponed-european-union-article-50-theresa-may-a8400441.html
Fascinating: how embarrassing that we have been unable to keep to a timetable like a gaggle of squabbling schoolkids!
if we could extend A50 until after the next GE (whenever that may be), that would be less damaging to the economy.
If you could extend A50 indefinitely, it would be be less damaging, and nearly as good as cancelling it...
Anyway what our Leo said was already known and discussed on this forum months ago.. but the caveat remains that it must be a unanimous decision of 27 . Now while I know what Leo's position would be, I have no idea how Hungry might decide.
Hven't we done well? we have gone from a situation where we could bully the rest of the EU for special treatment and terms to the point where we are reduced to begging for scraps and squabbling among our own so called Parliamentary representatives
And now nations feel so sorry for us they are prepared to give us more time.
And the result? we will take the time to make even bigger fools of ourselves.
What a disaster.
A once all powerful nation that was a force to be reckoned with in the EU is the first to attain "Homeless" status as an offshore basket case, ending up as a latter day Port Royal. for the worlds worst financial swindlers.
An example of pure hypocrisy in the Express
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A symbol of EU FAILURE’ Brussels policy blamed after Italy turns migrant boat away
A RESCUE ship carrying 629 migrants, which was turned away by Italy and Malta, has been branded a “symbol of the failure of the European Union” by the boss of a charity which helps operate the vessel.
What the head of the charity said was
"The head of MSF Spain, David Noguera, blamed the EU and the “contradictory policies” of member states for the situation.
Well he had every reason to be upset, but let's look at the facts Brussels do not determine the policies of member states, and a right wing mininster in Italy decides to turn the boat back to look Macho.
The Maltese turn it back too, and in their defence I know Malta very well, it is a tiny island that in no way can take in large numbers of migrants as in the summer the place is so full of people water and other services are stretched to near breaking point.
What has any of this to do with Brussels Policies? on the one hand this right wing propaganda rag, the Express screams about Brussels imposing it's power over us and here complains because it didn't excercise power over a right wing nut case of a politician?
So this crap is presented to a baying Brexit voting readership as proof they are right to hate the EU?
Perhaps the editor is not sure of his audience as it is "Comments unavailable" at the bottom.
Still I'm sure among the gullible it will have resonated with their attitudes of being against helping refugees.
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A symbol of EU FAILURE’ Brussels policy blamed after Italy turns migrant boat away
A RESCUE ship carrying 629 migrants, which was turned away by Italy and Malta, has been branded a “symbol of the failure of the European Union” by the boss of a charity which helps operate the vessel.
What the head of the charity said was
"The head of MSF Spain, David Noguera, blamed the EU and the “contradictory policies” of member states for the situation.
Well he had every reason to be upset, but let's look at the facts Brussels do not determine the policies of member states, and a right wing mininster in Italy decides to turn the boat back to look Macho.
The Maltese turn it back too, and in their defence I know Malta very well, it is a tiny island that in no way can take in large numbers of migrants as in the summer the place is so full of people water and other services are stretched to near breaking point.
What has any of this to do with Brussels Policies? on the one hand this right wing propaganda rag, the Express screams about Brussels imposing it's power over us and here complains because it didn't excercise power over a right wing nut case of a politician?
So this crap is presented to a baying Brexit voting readership as proof they are right to hate the EU?
Perhaps the editor is not sure of his audience as it is "Comments unavailable" at the bottom.
Still I'm sure among the gullible it will have resonated with their attitudes of being against helping refugees.
Maybe the boat should have rerouted to the UK? (a.k.a. Gibraltar)
What? Oh yeah... Right... I'll be on my way...
Nigel Farage:
"May's Brexit plan is worse than being in EU".
he can tell things like they are from time to time.
"May's Brexit plan is worse than being in EU".
he can tell things like they are from time to time.
Well he had two entirely opposite plans didn't he, ranging from staying in the single market and customs union to a hard Brexit.
Which pretty much means he had no plan at all except to serve his masters, and they seemed unsure what they wanted either.
Serving Foreign Paymasters changing Brexit requirements must have been hard to keep up with
I seem to remember that aircraft are specifically barred from working like that. After all, how can they trust the data other aircraft are sending out?
It would be so easy to implement systems which are hostage to hacking. We have seen what some people do with drones and laser pointers. Just think what they might do if the could inject fake data into the systems managing every vehicle on a busy motorway.
I remember asking last week on here "who are the Tory rebel Mp's?"
Apparently the Telegraph is confused too.
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How Tory rebels are leading Britain towards 'Brexit in name only'
Shades of the old song
"Who's in charge of the Runaway train?"
How can the Government majority have become the rebels?
I suppose the answer would have to be that they are in utter disarray.
Apparently the Telegraph is confused too.
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How Tory rebels are leading Britain towards 'Brexit in name only'
Shades of the old song
"Who's in charge of the Runaway train?"
How can the Government majority have become the rebels?
I suppose the answer would have to be that they are in utter disarray.