They aren't replacing the trees with Planer and government are thinking about chopping down thousands on roadsides... France has about worst death rate in Europe on its roads. There is evidence suggesting many have died who perhaps wouldn't had the not run into a great tree.. (hardly rocket science) Wouldn't some then drown driving into canal though.??I suppose that it is much more difficult to navigate a boat down the Canal du Midi - now it's no longer plane sailing.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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most of the 3000 euros per tree is spent on digging out the tree and burn it safely so that the virus does not infect other trees.
No, the 3000 is to remove the old ones. There are plans to replant some trees but also knock in stakes etc to help prevent erosion. The trees they do plant will not be like the ones Napoleon did...(argument is planer will catch the fungus... But Canadians are working on antidote... to give to trees. So far not working. (takes ages to go down flight of locks... A long conversation)
When our Elms in Rotherham got Dutch disease EU weren't forking out 3 grand a tree to dig them up. Loads better spent in Rotherham. Would improve more people's lives.
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Unfortunately, Tesla vehicles using "autopilot" might not help - given their reported difficulties in stopping before hitting stationary objects. [1]
[1] Other autonomous vehicles with their own problems are also available - or not.
Yellow card!
You have beaten the Catalonia roads horse to death. Catalonia is not Spain (at least 19% of the people who live there think that...) and the corruption by leading politicians in Catalonia puts the PP in the beginners category. The government in Madrid turned a blind eye to what you are describing because they were raping other lush young virgins...
Give up. You know SFA about the rest of Europe. Go check out the infrastructure paid for by the EU in Wales then come back and talk about corruption.
Sorry to be explicit, I hope you have a thick skin but you are really talking cr@p...
You really have a problem with this misplaced and intense hatred of the EU, don't you?
What would you replace it with?
Ever heard of "The City of London"? Wait and watch as brexit unfolds. Didn't the Mafia hang a banker from a bridge in London? Or was that in a film?
The FT may know something:
"Britain hints at staying in European VAT area after Brexit"
"Brexit Britain should be a rule-taker on goods, but not services"
they are signs that the hard brexiters may accept customs union.
"Britain hints at staying in European VAT area after Brexit"
"Brexit Britain should be a rule-taker on goods, but not services"
they are signs that the hard brexiters may accept customs union.
No offence taken at all. Your reply is actually polite and relatively sensible.
I don't pretend to know about entire EU. I said the regions I have had experience with are corrupt.
As for EU and its spending on Planer trees, locks never used commercially, roofs on quiet town halls to tune of 36 million euro and now used for the occasional indoor market and nothing else I do know a bit about.
The EU knows exactly who and what to target. The mayors, town officials, the local already rich business men. All influential and now devout EU supporters. They approach local officials for cash... No chance. Regional... No chance. National.. No chance. But good old EU comes up trumps. Castles, locks, town halls, wine cellars, roads, canals all have had approaching billions of EU money... Yes it keeps some in work, lots. Of course it does. Places look superb.
But answer this why hasn't that cash gone to hospitals, schools, sports centres, homes and houses. Take a drive into poorer parts of Mars (edit Marseille but in your case?,,) and tell me money would not be better spent there.
As for doing things to death. Perhaps, but that process of mis spent millions going on essentially rural projects is being repeated again and again. And folk do not see either what's actually happening or what could be being done.
The Canal Du Midi from its inception was always made to work on private funding. The king in 1686 gave his blessing but not a cent toward its construction. It managed for almost 200 years without a single planer tree. Now it seems both the trees and EU funding are essential. Wonder why,??
And BTW Catalonia is part of Spain. Spain ranked 42nd out of 180 for corrupt countries. France was 23rd. (Including its bit of Calalonia)
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besides the fact that the EU budget is a drop in the ocean compared to what is needed to run schools and hospitals, the EU's budget is primarily spent on marketing itself. A bit like the BBC's own teasers that they run between programs.
They'd spend on motorways because motorways are giant advertisement banners for propaganda.
And here in Hull EU money has invested heavily in rebuilding the Docks and a brand new power from recycling facility.
Ccorruption in the countries you mention are local matters, and will remain and in fact become worse once it is no longer there.
You are aiming at the wrong target.
Watch "This space (UK) for an example" of how corrupt things will become, thanks to your vote and others of the same mindset in the referendum.
Your mess, not mine remember?
BTW, I am not against the EU structural and social cohesion funds. The Commission de facto does not deal with the endemic corruption in the way these funds are spent. This money is seen everywhere as 'free money'. It is taxpayers' money.
No it’s your mess as well, it matters not what you think or voted, or whether you like or dislike how things are panning out, saying it’s not is like Americans saying “not my president” when clearly he is, even if they voted Clinton.
That's exactly point. The spending is buying hearts and minds of influential. It's obviously working.
A few days ago left wife to wonder around a village vide grenier whilst I tucked into breakfast paella. After an hour she fetched me to show town hall/wine cellar. It was simply stunning. The cellar had twenty 36,000 litre barrels made of oak. Set out on 2 rows connected by flawless brass piping. The building was perhaps 200 ft by 50 and the upper floor a gallery above the barrels. Tables were arranged around the gallery selling local produce. The roof was awesome. Lots more joists than needed and shaped like an upturned hull. It's probably most impressive building I, ve been in. It's use?, Local market once per week. The barrels are essentially ornaments.
On the wall downstairs a plaque thanking EU for reconstructing the building. Spoke with stall holder he reckoned total bill was 52 million euro but sarcasticilly added "but that includes a few mansions on outskirts of village" (one being the mayors).
23.7 % of EU below poverty line...????
It's immoral, a con and our money.
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And this is as it should be, one-offs which just like the trees have lasting effects over many years, even centuries, so do the greatest good for the money. It's wise expenditure that local rulers often don't make out of short term political expediency.
Hospitals and schools are bottomless pits that soak up the money, producing a very short term benefit. Those and local housing and sports centres are best dealt with locally since they need constant supervision and management to maintain any improvements.
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Meanwhile, distracted as we have been from what this corrupt government is doing while their propaganda agents ram royal this and royal that down our throats, this is happening:
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They have got you flecc. It's just same as JRM getting government to rebuild Wentworth and Royal family spending millions. They are not one offs at all. There is always another village. It's a disgrace.
Sorry but it isn't, as I am of an age where it won't be a problem for long, and thanks to asbestos,I won't be around to see the long term effects.
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Well it probably won’t be that much of a problem for me either,but I have children and grand children and my fellow man or woman for that matter