Brexit, for once some facts.
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Oxygen James....when IDS came out of a government vote on Brexit he spent the next 10 minutes raving about that he had waited 40 years to have the ability for us to make our own laws. The interviewer caught him out and asked what law would he like to introduce immediately that the EU was currently stopping,he was dumb.
So I ask you the same question,after 25 years,what laws would you like our post Brexit government to introduce that the EU is currently stopping?
KudosDave
So I ask you the same question,after 25 years,what laws would you like our post Brexit government to introduce that the EU is currently stopping?
KudosDave
Sex abuse gangs view white girls as 'worthless' and 'trash'
05:37, UK, Friday 11 August 2017
18 people have been convicted after a series of cases that have exposed a widespread ring of abuse of under-age girls and vulnerable young women in Newcastle.
Image: Eighteen people were convicted in the final of four trials linked to the case
By Bethany Minelle, News Reporter
Some Muslim men involved in cases where young white girls have been abused view them as "worthless", the head of the UK's Ramadhan Foundation has said.
Mohammed Shafiq told Sky News: "There is a minority of criminals involved in sexual abuse of children in on-street gang grooming who view white girls as worthless.
"They think they can be used in this abhorrent sort of way where they can be seen as trash."
His comments come after 18 gang members - predominantly made up of men from a south Asian background - were convicted of the grooming, abuse and rape of women and girls as young as 15.
The Chief Executive of the Ramadhan Foundation says there is a minority who view white girls as 'worthless'
Video: 'Minority' regard white girls as 'worthless'
Mr Shafiq added: "It's important to address the central issue - why some people from our community think that children can be abused and raped in this disgusting sort of way… There is a process of education that has to go on."
However, he warned against the far right jumping on the issue, saying grooming "affects all communities, and rather than pointing the finger at each other we should come together to defeat it".
President of Newcastle's Asian Society, Davender Kumar Ghai, also told Sky News "it was about race".
He claimed some Muslim Asian men living "in a ghetto in the West End" (of Newcastle) "call white women trash".
Asian Society president says some fundamental matters have to be addressed to stop more abuse cases
Video: Community leader says race is an issue in abuse case
Mr Ghai said: "The people are not very happy. It happened in Rochdale, it happened here. There is definitely something wrong.
"They call white women trash. That's a bad word to use. All the women are the same, and they should learn to respect them."
:: Members of the Newcastle grooming gang in profile
Mr Ghai added: "Islam is a good religion, but firstly, all these holy books - these clerics misinterpret them. And secondly there's no integration - they make a ghetto in the West End."
Social worker Sam Keith shares her thoughts on the Newcastle abuse case
Video: Social worker praises 'selflessness' of abuse victims
Newcastle City Council leader Nick Forbes told Sky News the case was not "swept under the carpet" because of race - and denied it was the defining factor linking the abusers.
"The thing that has linked these people is places like where they work, some of the social networks they move in."
"These are people on the margins of criminality. These are people who've been dealing drugs. These are people who've been abusing women. This is not part of any mainstream religion."
Newcastle city councillor Nick Forbes defends the way the city is tackling sexual exploitation
Video: Councillor 'not targeting' communities on abuse
Similar arrests and prosecutions for child sex abuse rings have taken place in 11 towns and cities across the UK over the last decade, including Oxford, Bristol and Peterborough.
The Labour MP for Rotherham - where at least 1,400 children were sexually over 16 years - said there was a need to acknowledge that most perpetrators in grooming scandals "have been British-Pakistani".
Sarah Champion said people were "more afraid to be called a racist than they are afraid to be wrong about calling out child abuse".
She added: "We've got now hundreds of men, Pakistani men, who have been convicted of this crime - why are we not commissioning research to see what's going on and how we need to change what's going on so it never happens again?"
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05:37, UK, Friday 11 August 2017
18 people have been convicted after a series of cases that have exposed a widespread ring of abuse of under-age girls and vulnerable young women in Newcastle.
Image: Eighteen people were convicted in the final of four trials linked to the case
By Bethany Minelle, News Reporter
Some Muslim men involved in cases where young white girls have been abused view them as "worthless", the head of the UK's Ramadhan Foundation has said.
Mohammed Shafiq told Sky News: "There is a minority of criminals involved in sexual abuse of children in on-street gang grooming who view white girls as worthless.
"They think they can be used in this abhorrent sort of way where they can be seen as trash."
His comments come after 18 gang members - predominantly made up of men from a south Asian background - were convicted of the grooming, abuse and rape of women and girls as young as 15.
The Chief Executive of the Ramadhan Foundation says there is a minority who view white girls as 'worthless'
Video: 'Minority' regard white girls as 'worthless'
Mr Shafiq added: "It's important to address the central issue - why some people from our community think that children can be abused and raped in this disgusting sort of way… There is a process of education that has to go on."
However, he warned against the far right jumping on the issue, saying grooming "affects all communities, and rather than pointing the finger at each other we should come together to defeat it".
President of Newcastle's Asian Society, Davender Kumar Ghai, also told Sky News "it was about race".
He claimed some Muslim Asian men living "in a ghetto in the West End" (of Newcastle) "call white women trash".
Asian Society president says some fundamental matters have to be addressed to stop more abuse cases
Video: Community leader says race is an issue in abuse case
Mr Ghai said: "The people are not very happy. It happened in Rochdale, it happened here. There is definitely something wrong.
"They call white women trash. That's a bad word to use. All the women are the same, and they should learn to respect them."
:: Members of the Newcastle grooming gang in profile
Mr Ghai added: "Islam is a good religion, but firstly, all these holy books - these clerics misinterpret them. And secondly there's no integration - they make a ghetto in the West End."
Social worker Sam Keith shares her thoughts on the Newcastle abuse case
Video: Social worker praises 'selflessness' of abuse victims
Newcastle City Council leader Nick Forbes told Sky News the case was not "swept under the carpet" because of race - and denied it was the defining factor linking the abusers.
"The thing that has linked these people is places like where they work, some of the social networks they move in."
"These are people on the margins of criminality. These are people who've been dealing drugs. These are people who've been abusing women. This is not part of any mainstream religion."
Newcastle city councillor Nick Forbes defends the way the city is tackling sexual exploitation
Video: Councillor 'not targeting' communities on abuse
Similar arrests and prosecutions for child sex abuse rings have taken place in 11 towns and cities across the UK over the last decade, including Oxford, Bristol and Peterborough.
The Labour MP for Rotherham - where at least 1,400 children were sexually over 16 years - said there was a need to acknowledge that most perpetrators in grooming scandals "have been British-Pakistani".
Sarah Champion said people were "more afraid to be called a racist than they are afraid to be wrong about calling out child abuse".
She added: "We've got now hundreds of men, Pakistani men, who have been convicted of this crime - why are we not commissioning research to see what's going on and how we need to change what's going on so it never happens again?"
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How about we all try to do less cutting and pasting?
Einstein knew what was wrong with 20th century government and understood that the only fair way was through socialist ideals.
Hermann Göring understood how important lying to the public is in order to guarantee their support.
The idiots who voted for liars and continue to stand by their decision are racists, fascists or both most likely. They are certainly not economists as all the economic arguments for 'Brexit' have been debunked over and over again. The only voices still promulgating opinion to the contrary are among the group of liars and their paid associates who have been found out yet continue to receive the support of the moronic element of society.
Tom
Hermann Göring understood how important lying to the public is in order to guarantee their support.
The idiots who voted for liars and continue to stand by their decision are racists, fascists or both most likely. They are certainly not economists as all the economic arguments for 'Brexit' have been debunked over and over again. The only voices still promulgating opinion to the contrary are among the group of liars and their paid associates who have been found out yet continue to receive the support of the moronic element of society.
Tom
I'm confused: you have a huge influx of Muslims from the EU?
There are some from the Ethiopian Underbelly.
Eritreans and Egyptians too, all wanting to be a part of Us.
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Frankly since the Common Market was set up in the late 1940's with the intention of becoming over time a United States of Europe, I would have thought that not knowing that long before the Maastricht Treaty reflected very badly on the intelligence , lack of understanding and failure to check the historical facts of anyone who makes the absurd claim you do.
"Anyone with more than half a brain would understand that"
This weird notion of the worth of individual Nations being damaged by belonging to such an organisation is astonishing, and History has proved time and time again this is nonsense.
It is a natural and very necessary development in Human Societies to seek to form larger confederations, and the principle has been with us since the stone age.
Petty Nations, with petty ideas of their own importance are a throwback to the middle ages, and trying to make out this is a "Patriotic impulse" pathetic and primitive.
To make your "Gee Whiz" Map more accurate you need to recolour the squares to correctly reflect that fact that there is only 4% difference overall
It is most definitely not the Landslide Victory you try to kid us with, is it?
The United States of America is as diverse as it comes: several languages, many different cultures and religions all under the same flag. And any idiot who is rich enough and a big enough liar can become president. Um wait a mo, something isn't right...
From the Daily Star
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UK will back Donald Trump if US declare WAR on North Korea as WW3 fears grow
BRITAIN will be standing shoulder to shoulder with the US if war is declared on North Korea.
Will it really? the Government has surprised me, I didn't think they could could come up with something so absolutely stupid that it is even less profitable and infinitely more harmful than Brexit!
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UK will back Donald Trump if US declare WAR on North Korea as WW3 fears grow
BRITAIN will be standing shoulder to shoulder with the US if war is declared on North Korea.
Will it really? the Government has surprised me, I didn't think they could could come up with something so absolutely stupid that it is even less profitable and infinitely more harmful than Brexit!
The only difference is here we call them Prime Minister
The law (it's probably not a law just a general result) - that says we can't democratically vote out the EU commissioners. As people. As people that can claim £200 a day for doing **** all. I'd like the power to do that. Which right now I don't have. Seeing as they are not democratically elected. To me this was about getting power back to do stuff like that. Like Juncker who can put £20,000 on expenses to fly to Italy for the weekend. And right now we can't do anything about that. If thats a law - then I want to be able to change that. Kick him out. And all the hangers-on in Brussels. All that. I want that all gone. Its wrong. Its just ******* wrong and thats one of the big reasons I wanted out. And sure I know for some small manufacturers its going to be tough. I'm sorry. What can I say? Thems is the breaks. But this total lack of accountability has to go. Not just in the EU either. Back here too. But let's start with them - we'll get to us in good time. But we have to keep the vote close. When the ability to vote is so far away - and can not get rid of the people who are making the laws - that's just plain f***ked and we all know that. OK. Rant over.
Einstein should have stuck to what he was good at - just like Hawkins should at the moment. Just because you know how to mess with atoms does not mean you know anything about economics or how to create genuine wealth.
"All the jobs lack long-term security'. You really do make me laugh. What fricking planet are you living on?
No jobs have long term security.
Welcome to 2017.
I hope you have a nice flight.
... Hi Oxygen, if you had the patience of Job, you could read through the back posting on this thread and be informed that there actually is accountability, and democracy in action. As a summary.....
Of course you in the UK have no say in who the Italians chose to represent them as a commissioner, just as those in London have no say in who represents Sunderland at Westminster. Your government selects your commissioner. The commissioners are vetted and voted on by the European parliament.
The european parliament then select their president for a 5 year term.. the president assigns portfolios similar to ministries, to the commissioners
You also get to elect your members of the European parliament. By direct elections, using a method of voting selected by your government.
If you and your government have not chosen well in the past, then on your own heads be it. But just cut out the lie... And it is a lie of it not being democratic.
Just a suggestion, but it could be advantageous that you consult wilkipedi or other objective sources before going on a rant.
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The EU wants to set a precedence of ECJ control over its citizens while residing in the UK after Brexit.
If that is agreed then surely it should be reciprocated for any other country who has its citizens residing in the EU to take precedence over ECJ law.
Do you think they would agree?
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