Brexit, for once some facts.
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they should keep it exactly like it was and park it in Richmond Park. That bus says more about brexit than any other debate in parliament.
Whichever way the result of the Richmond Park by-election will fall, the conservative majority will be reduced from 12 to 10 because Zac will be on the opposition side if elected.
5 more by-elections to go.
did you notice the article in the telegraph: 'Attacks on Leave voters must stop' - apparently the 25% students who voted to leave are branded 'idiots' by those who voted to remain.
I read the Article in question, there were in fact no "Attacks" just the sort of criticism you would expect, and the paper is blowing it all out of proportion in the usual manner.
Nothing to see here, move along! as the "plods" would say.
Actually it is encouraging in the sense that only 25% seem to have earned the title "idiot"
How to upset the idiot fringe
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Outrage as David Attenborough says British people were NOT WISE enough for Brexit vote"
For some reason this seems to have upset the Express readership.
Anyone have a clue why?
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Outrage as David Attenborough says British people were NOT WISE enough for Brexit vote"
For some reason this seems to have upset the Express readership.
Anyone have a clue why?
yes, the Express. They have Gerard Lyons 'Brexit rallying cry: Economist claims the pound will be STRONGER after leaving EU'.
I watched that idiot (he studied at university of Liverpool and after that, Warwick) desparately claiming that the Pound was substantially overvalued (he was on BBC2 today's daily politics). Please. I much prefer the Pound being overvalued, thank you.
Just wait for another month to see if the 17 millions brexit voters think the result is worth it when inflation hits the roof. Marmite is the indicator: 12.5% inflation. Energy is set to go up at least 5% after Christmas. We import more than we export, not just on consumer stuff, on industrial products too.
I watched that idiot (he studied at university of Liverpool and after that, Warwick) desparately claiming that the Pound was substantially overvalued (he was on BBC2 today's daily politics). Please. I much prefer the Pound being overvalued, thank you.
Just wait for another month to see if the 17 millions brexit voters think the result is worth it when inflation hits the roof. Marmite is the indicator: 12.5% inflation. Energy is set to go up at least 5% after Christmas. We import more than we export, not just on consumer stuff, on industrial products too.
... and even the stuff that is "made" in the UK is in many cases owned by foreign companies, so the profit has to be converted to another currency to be taken out of the country... so the price will go up to keep their margin in place even if there is no other rise.
Another one off to the Gulag for 'retraining',its getting rather full!!!
Do you think Hammond will be next,he is really getting a bit too honest....Prime Minister please keep the promises to a minimum,dont forget about 'the cake' you promised man from Hartlepool and the £18billion that Boris wants and the £2.5 billion that I promised to the farmers and the 2% of GDP that we promised to spend on defence and the £2.0 billion that the universities want and Scotland will need another £14 billion bailout and the extra £7.0 billion we promised the NHS and maybe Nissan/Honda/Tata/Toyota and the £5 billion admin cost of Brexit,its making my Autumn 'refresh' looking a bit thin,do you,do you think we could could put up put up income tax.....stupid boy,stand in the corner and repeat 100 times 'Brexit means Brexit.
KudosDave
probably more like pakistan
http://www.dailyo.in/politics/britain-pakistan-brexit-theresa-may-white-mughals-muslims-taliban-china/story/1/13759.html
er, before anyone flames me, I don't seriously subscribe to the article..
I'm glad I ordered a new car when I did as I fear, had I left it till the 17 reg plate comes out, all imported car prices will have risen significantly.
Tom
Tom
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UK must build cyber-attack capability, chancellor says
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Meanwhile the Minister for Defence Mike Penning is preparing his Winter Budget.
Amazing how interchangeable ministerial posts are in this Government, or is it a case of just having a "Go" at whatever takes their fancy?
UK must build cyber-attack capability, chancellor says
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Meanwhile the Minister for Defence Mike Penning is preparing his Winter Budget.
Amazing how interchangeable ministerial posts are in this Government, or is it a case of just having a "Go" at whatever takes their fancy?
http://uk.businessinsider.com/carnegie-investment-bank-brexit-led-to-uk-asset-sales-2016-11
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Drusebjerg did not say how much the assets Carnegie sold prior to the vote were worth, but said that the bank is still staying away from the UK because the political and economic picture in the country is too uncertain right now.
"It [Brexit] will definitely end with a deal that is so bad they will either get an election about this new bad deal, or they will have to have a parliamentary election before that," Drusebjerg told Bloomberg.
"It’s very possible that Britain will never reach Brexit because I think down the road it will be obvious that the deal they will get will be really, really bad for the economy."
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Drusebjerg did not say how much the assets Carnegie sold prior to the vote were worth, but said that the bank is still staying away from the UK because the political and economic picture in the country is too uncertain right now.
"It [Brexit] will definitely end with a deal that is so bad they will either get an election about this new bad deal, or they will have to have a parliamentary election before that," Drusebjerg told Bloomberg.
"It’s very possible that Britain will never reach Brexit because I think down the road it will be obvious that the deal they will get will be really, really bad for the economy."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/01/liam-fox-pre-brexit-deal-setback-european-union
If I understand correctly, the UK will have to negotiate in the next two years how much we have to pay to get out. When that is agreed by QMV, we are out and become an WTO member as far as the EU is concerned. After we are out, we can start negotiating any future relationship with the EU (Single Market, EEA or customs union) and this deal is done like CETA, to be approved by 27 countries plus EU parliament.
There is no guarantee if a transitional period can be negotiated. It seems at the moment that the EU wants us out more than we do.
After 2019, we may have to be under WTO regime for a few years before joining customs union or Single Market. The opposition is correct in saying that deals with industries like Nissan will cost a lot of money.
No wonder Mr Carney does not want to hang around after June 2019.
If I understand correctly, the UK will have to negotiate in the next two years how much we have to pay to get out. When that is agreed by QMV, we are out and become an WTO member as far as the EU is concerned. After we are out, we can start negotiating any future relationship with the EU (Single Market, EEA or customs union) and this deal is done like CETA, to be approved by 27 countries plus EU parliament.
There is no guarantee if a transitional period can be negotiated. It seems at the moment that the EU wants us out more than we do.
After 2019, we may have to be under WTO regime for a few years before joining customs union or Single Market. The opposition is correct in saying that deals with industries like Nissan will cost a lot of money.
No wonder Mr Carney does not want to hang around after June 2019.
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He's being smart in getting out before the job becomes impossible.
It won't be long now for Governor of the Bank of England and Chancellor of the Exchequer to become poisoned chalices. Michael Gove now wants be let back in from the cold, but the latter could be the job he'll end up with if Theresa May's "reward" job for Boris Johnson is anything to go by.
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Trex.....if the sequence is as you describe,no PM surely can take us into the 2 year financial suicide,without parliament agreement.
Its starting to hit home what a risk we are about to enter into by triggering Article 50,we are in an unreal period that looks good because the weak pound is making our EU exports attractive but soon that weak pound will make our imports unbelievably expensive and the advantage will be negated.
I have already stopped buying some products because the resultant selling price is just not competitive both in the UK and EU.
I read that the new Ford engine plant is considering reducing its investment because of concern that the cost of 'make-up' import components will be too expensive for the plant to be long term viable,export tariffs would render the plant pointless.
Theresa May seems to be in a bubble that insulates her and Fox from what is happening to our country both in terms of social divide and economic upheavel,she is either brilliant at bluffing or out of her depth,I hope it is the former,this is not a time to have a clueless PM.
Its all really bad timing for those who are about to experience the reducing benefits cap,the rising of essential foods,energy costs,fuel against a maximum benefit is going to make it impossible to afford all outgoings,food banks are going to be very busy,did these people vote leave?
KudosDave
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The time has come for someone in parliament to suggest that facing the disappointment of the people who voted for brexit is by far the lesser of two evils than committing such an act of utter folly as going ahead with it.
Especially as by now it is unlikely to be the opinion still held by a majority.
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Especially as by now it is unlikely to be the opinion still held by a majority.
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Mrs May could well be conttrolling the drip drip release of bad news to change brexit voters' resolve and by March, brexit will be seen as unfeasible.
The three brexit ministers seem to say nothing at the moment.
The three brexit ministers seem to say nothing at the moment.