Brexit, for once some facts.
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How about some news reports from over here then?
Why should British elected parlimentary members be allowed to discuss and vote on laws that no longer concern them? French national news. I agree 100%, out tomorrow and no more pay checks!
How are the less well off retirees on the continent going to afford private health insurance? Spanish news. Tens if not hundreds of thousands concerned.
An English employee of the commission (one of 2,000) is about to apply for Belgian nationality.
A silly spokesperson from the leave campaign (half German, half French, half English, go figure...) described that when she worked for the commission she was disgusted by the wages, free food and board. I remember when that was voted on, the idea was to remove them as far as possible from corruption and bribes. I thought it was a good idea
Why should British elected parlimentary members be allowed to discuss and vote on laws that no longer concern them? French national news. I agree 100%, out tomorrow and no more pay checks!
How are the less well off retirees on the continent going to afford private health insurance? Spanish news. Tens if not hundreds of thousands concerned.
An English employee of the commission (one of 2,000) is about to apply for Belgian nationality.
A silly spokesperson from the leave campaign (half German, half French, half English, go figure...) described that when she worked for the commission she was disgusted by the wages, free food and board. I remember when that was voted on, the idea was to remove them as far as possible from corruption and bribes. I thought it was a good idea
One group of Englishmen living and working long term in Germany have already said a while ago that they will apply for German nationality if we leave the EU.
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Try reading up on why that regulation came in and you will find this
Bananas and Brussels
- Myth: Curved bananas have been banned by Brussels bureaucrats, with shops ordered not to sell fruit which is too small or abnormally bent.Sources: The Sun, Daily Mirror, Daily Mail, Daily Express (21 September 1994)
Truth: Yes … and no. Curved bananas have not been banned. In fact, as with the supposed banning of curved cucumbers, the Commission regulation classifies bananas according to quality and size for the sake of easing the trade of bananas internationally.
Quality standards are necessary in order that people buying and ordering bananas can rest assured that what they are getting lives up to their expectations. Individual EU member states have tended to have their own standards, as has the industry (whose standards are often very stringent). The European Commission was asked by the Council of Ministers and the industry to prepare a draft regulation laying down EU quality standards, and this has been the subject of consultation for some time now. As such it represents a consensus position. The following points should be noted however:
1) These are minimal rules, applied solely to green, unripe bananas, rather than those destined for the processing industry.
2) These standards should improve the quality of bananas produced within the Community. They should thus be able to command a higher price in the Community markets. This should also help reduce Community aid and therefore relieve pressure on the Community budget.
3) Far from being an interference in trade these norms should facilitate it throughout the Community
But it does illustrate the lies printed by our press, doesn't it?
Go on, try your luck with another one!
he/she is not alone. A few of my children friends working in the EU have discussed naturalisation seriously.
Fuel prices are the least important worry.
An alternative outside view of why it happened:
https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/348318-episode-max-keiser-932/
Dodgey Daves puppet strings have been cut by his manipulators and now they a looking for a new puppet to regain control over the electorate who they use to finance their London gambling dens when things go wrong.
An alternative outside view of why it happened:
https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/348318-episode-max-keiser-932/
Dodgey Daves puppet strings have been cut by his manipulators and now they a looking for a new puppet to regain control over the electorate who they use to finance their London gambling dens when things go wrong.
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congrats on your reading of the FX last Thursday.
I am not worried about the stock market. It will readjust istself quickly, you can already see that the losses were bigger elsewhere than in the UK. I am much more worried about the exchange rate. It is tangible to all of us, directly affecting prices such as fuel, and jobs.
One comment is very often heard recently is 'this vote is about ordinary people give the elite a kick'. I wonder who really is going to get that kick economically.
Apparently petition for a second referendum is so popular that it crashed the government website yesterday. I much prefer fresh general elections.
I am not worried about the stock market. It will readjust istself quickly, you can already see that the losses were bigger elsewhere than in the UK. I am much more worried about the exchange rate. It is tangible to all of us, directly affecting prices such as fuel, and jobs.
One comment is very often heard recently is 'this vote is about ordinary people give the elite a kick'. I wonder who really is going to get that kick economically.
Apparently petition for a second referendum is so popular that it crashed the government website yesterday. I much prefer fresh general elections.
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My preference would be for an enquiry as to why the press has not ever published the appropriate EU regulations verbatim when printing articles ridiculing them.
If they had the vote would have been a landslide for remain.
I believe that a narrow win for Brexit (or remain) is the right outcome because the UK needs a general reset, not just in our view of Europe but also because it's about time that we to stop austerity measures in the last 6 years and look forward into the future.
This referendum has engaged large numbers of less wealthy, less educated citizens in a way that normal elections could not do. They may not have voted out for the right reasons, at least, they feel that they got heard and therefore, more enclined to listen to the arguments in the next elections.
I remain optimistic.
This referendum has engaged large numbers of less wealthy, less educated citizens in a way that normal elections could not do. They may not have voted out for the right reasons, at least, they feel that they got heard and therefore, more enclined to listen to the arguments in the next elections.
I remain optimistic.
Biggest obstacle to overcome is people,s inane and insatiable negativity as demonstrated on here...
As yet , and for quite a while yet absolutely nothing has changed, yet folk are screaming recession. Scream it loud enough and sure enough you,ll get one.
By the way contrary to OG,s prophecy ( wishes?) stock market recovered well yesterday, way better than French or German.
And those folk protesting about democracy in London should be locked up,with OG for company.
As yet , and for quite a while yet absolutely nothing has changed, yet folk are screaming recession. Scream it loud enough and sure enough you,ll get one.
By the way contrary to OG,s prophecy ( wishes?) stock market recovered well yesterday, way better than French or German.
And those folk protesting about democracy in London should be locked up,with OG for company.
We have been constantly fed large amounts of verbal sewage for weeks now. Isn't it time we flushed it away?
Oil prices have fallen, but I suppose the fall in the dollar will balance that out
Still playing at the Comic? don't give up your day job.
I didn't prophecy anything about the stock markets, simply reported what has happening, but as usual that didn't fit for you did it, so as usual you departed from the truth, and unlike you I did prophesy a Brexit win didn't I?
Because I understand what motivates the public, and for some reason you can't stand any opinion contrary to your own, can you?
It brings out the schoolboy bully and silly barbed jests.
Once profit making has taken it's course normality will return in most things at least for a while, as we are still in the EU, you just have to hope that long term once out of it the economy doesn't simply bomb.
I've been unable to get RT & a few other channels I though due to atmospherics but I realise now it's the EU.
Sorry Trex but I differ on the need for immediate elections, for who can you elect that has any better chance that the present lot?
None of them have any more of a clue than if you recruited a team at the nearest Bus stop.
And another referendum right now would prove nothing even if it went the other way with a big majority.
We are committed now, no turning back at this point as the questions posed will never be answered.
I really believe we need to let the people who have led the charge for Brexit put their money where their mouth is and that we need a new party of opposition that can take up the challenge of getting us back into the EU if things turn sour.
It seems to me to be the only sensible approach
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Tories and labour need to have new leaders before fresh elections, possibly next May. A new government will have democratic mandate to negociate and organise a second referendum. This time, the questions will be 1) do you want to go back to the old EU 2) do you want the new arrangement. I would prefer a Norway style arrangement with much bigger participation in various EU programs, scientific research, ecodesign, pollution reduction etc.
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