Brexit, for once some facts.

[Kudoscycles]

When I go to China,on entry I have to fill in an entry form which states when I am leaving,it's a 2-part form,part A on entry,part B on exit,the form is very simple,stating how I arrived and how I intend to depart.
Customs scan my passport,hotels scan my passport,internal flights scan my passport,train stations scan my passport. I don't have a problem with this I can see the sense of knowing my movements.
I am sure that if I fail to submit Part B on exit,some computer would flag up that I haven't left and the police/customs would want to know where I am.
For reasons of security as well as control I can see the commonsense of this system.
I am sure that at the press of a button the Chinese know how many foreigners are in their country and how many didn't leave when they were supposed to....why can't we do this?
KudosDave

 

[shemozzle999]

Sorry to disappoint all you remainers:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40774251

 

[oldgroaner]

Perhaps we should all be kicked out March 2019.
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Shh! someone will hear you and realise that clearances like those not so long ago in Scotland will eliminate both the pollution and Energy problems, and leave lots of land for Foxhunting.

 

[oldgroaner]

Sorry to disappoint all you remainers:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40774251

And there will be free Beer too, are you actually taking statements this Government make seriously?
The only thing that disappoints a remainer like me is that you still believe them!

 

[oldgroaner]

why can't we do this?

Because we haven't a single politician that could organise a Whelk Stall at the seaside?

 

[Kudoscycles]

Sorry to disappoint all you remainers:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40774251

Do you believe anything that comes out of No10 these days.....remember when in March 2019 we were out and that's it,Brexit means Brexit,then we were having a couple of months transition,now it's 3 years. We were going to stop all EU immigration,now we are running out of nurses ,farm workers and hospitality people, we are going to have a sector migration study to figure out who we need.
Just wait until Corbyn and the House of Lords start making mischief on the Repeal Bill and it won't be long before we will be pleased to keep the EU laws because we are incapable to make our own.
It is clear that the EU want £50 billion plus and we will tell them to whistle and that will be the end of them offering any free trade deal,we will have to cough up the money,except the Brexiters won't let May pay it.
Ireland have left the UK in such an impossible position about the Eire/N.I. border ,that seems impossible to overcome.
May hates the ECJ but they are the legals behind the 'open skies',if we want planes flying in/out of the U.K.,May is going to have to accept the ECJ.
Barnier has told Davis that EU nationals and their offspring in the UK must be offered citizenship without strings attached,May will give in.

All this rubbish about the EU needing us.....we will still buy German Cars,we love Audi,BMW,Mercedes and VW....if we fall back on WTO rules it will hurt us very badly.it won't affect German exports....we will give in before they do and the deal will be bad for us,we will panic at the end and accept what they give us.
KudosDave

 

[anotherkiwi]

Let's see:

Tyrell's crisps - can live without, great farm made crisps just down the road.
Wheetabix - can live without, perhaps...
Marmelade - just found a new source in the Pyreneen foothills, yum!
Cheddar - lots of great cheeses around here

Do you make anything else I buy regularly?

 

[Kudoscycles]

Let's see:

Tyrell's crisps - can live without, great farm made crisps just down the road.
Wheetabix - can live without, perhaps...
Marmelade - just found a new source in the Pyreneen foothills, yum!
Cheddar - lots of great cheeses around here

Do you make anything else I buy regularly?

But can you live without Marmite?
KudosDave

 

[Danidl]

"unfortunate consequences" suggests it's an accidental consequence of brexit, as some sort of neutral event. It's stating the obvious, but there is nothing accidental about brexit, much as there isn't about say trumps plummeting popularity.

.. ok replace with unforeseen. There is a school of thought which claims that there is no such entity as an accident. Every action has consequences , and if an accident occurs it was because someone had failed .
It is obviously the case that the proponents of Brexit assumed that only good things would flow , and that there could be no downside. In that mindset the removal of 35 major regulatory agencies, some located in the UK, could only be seen as unfortunate.,and maybe even vindictive.

 

[anotherkiwi]

But can you live without Marmite?
KudosDave

Always have!

 

[Danidl]

But can you live without Marmite?
KudosDave

... YES YES a thousand times Yes....

 

[Danidl]

Let's see:

Tyrell's crisps - can live without, great farm made crisps just down the road.
Wheetabix - can live without, perhaps...
Marmelade - just found a new source in the Pyreneen foothills, yum!
Cheddar - lots of great cheeses around here

Do you make anything else I buy regularly?

. French chips as they call crisps are really good. They make plain ones just with salt.. excellent... Have to say that neighbor works in local factory for them...
Marmalade... Really good stuff sold as conserves in France.. not adulterated with extra sugar or peptin. Try the bio shelves in the supermarkets..

 

[oldtom]

But can you live without Marmite?
KudosDave

Now that would seriously challenge my political principles!

Tom

 

[Danidl]

Now that would seriously challenge my political principles!

Tom

.. cannot work it out are you a marmite leaver? ,, IE in favour of leaving it in the shop.

 

[oldgroaner]

Todays Sunny Promise from the Daily Express
"
'Once in a generation chance' Brexit boost for farming to SLASH food cost
BRITAIN has a “once in a generation opportunity” to slash the cost of food and improve the countryside when it frees itself of the EU’s hated Common Agricultural Policy (CAP), a major new report has revealed."

Slash food costs? so the Food banks can close, how nice!
Whatever: as the young are prone to remark.

And from the Independent we have the opposite reaction.

Brexit: UK households could face ‘considerable and unpredictable’ fluctuations in food prices, says IFS
Tariffs would raise the price of food imported from the EU, which accounts for 70 per cent of the UK’s gross food imports

It all come down to whether you have a Religious Zeal for Brexit and believe the Murdoch Press who are proven liars, or prefer reality I suppose

 

[anotherkiwi]

200 billion pounds UK consumer debt. Sounds like a lot...

Since the beginning of the year private French saving has topped 10 billion euros, that is money saved since the beginning of this year. That is a huge problem for the French economy, that money would be better used elsewhere.

Seems we all have our financial problems but as mother would say better to have too much tucked away than too much debt.

 

[anotherkiwi]

Todays Sunny Promise from the Daily Express
"
'Once in a generation chance' Brexit boost for farming to SLASH food cost
BRITAIN has a “once in a generation opportunity” to slash the cost of food and improve the countryside when it frees itself of the EU’s hated Common Agricultural Policy (CAP), a major new report has revealed."

Slash food costs? so the Food banks can close, how nice!
Whatever: as the young are prone to remark.

And from the Independent we have the opposite reaction.

Brexit: UK households could face ‘considerable and unpredictable’ fluctuations in food prices, says IFS
Tariffs would raise the price of food imported from the EU, which accounts for 70 per cent of the UK’s gross food imports

It all come down to whether you have a Religious Zeal for Brexit and believe the Murdoch Press who are proven liars, or prefer reality I suppose

Don't worry as of 2019 I am going to stop buying UK produce so you can eat my share!

 

[shemozzle999]

Seems we all have our financial problems but as mother would say better to have too much tucked away than too much debt.

I agree

https://debtclock.tv/world/france/

 

[oldtom]

The incomparable.......sorry, that should be incompetent......Theresa May is still occupying a property in central London, doing a very poor impression of a Prime Minister.

Fortunately, we can all rest easy in our beds knowing that the little party - now rich, little party - over in Ireland have our backs covered. Guys like these will ensure the UK remains secure:



Now you can understand why Theresa chose to spend a spare billion quid so wisely......it's not as if it was needed anywhere else under her stewardship of the nation's finances.



If you wondered where that billion smackers came from as everyone knows there is no magic money tree, the answer's simple. You need look no further........

There you have it - politics made simple!

Tom

 

[shemozzle999]

there is no magic money tree

There is, we are going to dig it up from the Brussels courtyard and plant it back in the UK.