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oldgroaner

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What fun! so many people have been Googling "Dementia Tax" the Torys have paid for adverts to give their spin
https://www.conservatives.com/socialcare?gclid=CKXx5cSMhNQCFc-6GwodD4QBGA
https://www.conservatives.com/socialcare?gclid=CKXx5cSMhNQCFc-6GwodD4QBGA
And the Labour Party have paid for an Advert too!
http://www.labour.org.uk/index.php/splash/Conservative-social-care-plans?gclid=CLHqoKyNhNQCFRa3Gwod-K0OPg
http://www.labour.org.uk/index.php/splash/Conservative-social-care-plans?gclid=CLHqoKyNhNQCFRa3Gwod-K0OPg
Isn't this all good clean fun?
Actually it's getting TRAGIC
 
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Kudoscycles

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There is no possibility that I will call a general election.
Class 4 NIC are needed to create fairness in social tax,done deal
The social care deal is a done deal with no negotiation and no cap.
We are taking away the winter fuel allowance to all but the poorest,who are the poorest,we need to establish the threshold
Brexit is not a done deal,trust me to negotiate the best possible deal to keep us in.
No chaos,all strong and stable,and no U-turns,hehe
Theresa Maybe!!!!!!!
KudosDave
 
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Danidl said:
.. I'm trying to make out whether this was a compliment or an insult
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Depends on if it was said pre or post Viet-Nam war... :rolleyes:
 
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Kudoscycles

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The concern about this social care May mess is clearly she is a one woman government who is a control freak who does not seek advice from her government and thinks that she is infallible.
She blatantly lied when she said 'that nothing has changed',it is obvious to us all that the policy was political poison on the doorstep and she had to U-turn again to try to repair the damage,her lies made it worse.
This is the woman who we are about to trust to achieve 'the best possible deal' for our country in the Brexit negotiations.
She won't avoid questions about the threshold of the winter fuel allowance and the value of the cap on social care,all the way up to June 8,she will have to answer those questions.
She bought this problem on herself,how could she have attacked the olds,the one group who could be relied upon to vote in the election,worryingly a stupid mistake.
Not 'strong and stable' .....'weak and wobbly'.
Just heard that the NHS has a £700 million deficit,the government tried to delay the publishment of these numbers to avoid the political fallout,umm......
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I popped over to sleepy Suffolk today to see a friends to go see Alien Covenant in 4Dx and afterwards, suffering from mild PTSD back at their home picked up a leaflet from their prospective local UKIP candidate for MP - after a quick read I wondered if my popcorn had been spiked and I'd ended up in an alternative univese where a barmy reality TV host was now US president and Theresa May was filling the Chunnel full of concrete...

Never mind quitting the EU... one candidate wants to leave the solar system
 
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id not **** on that if it was on fire ;)
 
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Zlatan said:
This really is an opportunity,I,m beginning to think they don't want power.
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They don't want power, there are people within the Labour Party who are only interested in losing the election so that they can get rid of Jeremy Corbyn, those people deserve to lose their seats.

Jeremy is not only up against the Tory party, he has a hostile media twisting every word he says and party members who are not campaigning hard enough and I think he does not stand a chance, he shoots himself in the foot too by not condemning the IRA, he should learn to play the media game, too late now, they wounded him again.

There are members of the Labour Party, who I consider more Tory, who are ruining things for the party, the whole media, left, right, middle ground rubbish also sends the wrong picture, the media are biased and that includes the BBC who claim to be impartial, their reports often send out little signals, psychological ones, which are biased towards supporting Tories.

The country needs a change of direction, unfortunately it is going to get five more years of the Tories with Theresa May making the UK even more divided, their policy of attacking the poor and disabled and saying it's in the name of 'fairness' will continue and this time with a much higher majority.
 
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Mal69 said:
They don't want power, there are people within the Labour Party who are only interested in losing the election so that they can get rid of Jeremy Corbyn, those people deserve to lose their seats.

Jeremy is not only up against the Tory party, he has a hostile media twisting every word he says and party members who are not campaigning hard enough and I think he does not stand a chance, he shoots himself in the foot too by not condemning the IRA, he should learn to play the media game, too late now, they wounded him again.

There are members of the Labour Party, who I consider more Tory, who are ruining things for the party, the whole media, left, right, middle ground rubbish also sends the wrong picture, the media are biased and that includes the BBC who claim to be impartial, their reports often send out little signals, psychological ones, which are biased towards supporting Tories.

The country needs a change of direction, unfortunately it is going to get five more years of the Tories with Theresa May making the UK even more divided, their policy of attacking the poor and disabled and saying it's in the name of 'fairness' will continue and this time with a much higher majority.
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All very true, The Westminster Bubble has been a one party state that wears different coloured shirts to kid the Electorate for many years.
New Labour was simply the Tory Party left wing
 
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oldgroaner said:
All very true, The Westminster Bubble has been a one party state that wears different coloured shirts to kid the Electorate for many years.
New Labour was simply the Tory Party left wing
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It was still better than the current lot.
 
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From the Telegraph
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Pound falls as UK budget deficit widens more than expected; Eurozone growth holds steady at six-year high
The UK budget deficit widened more than expected in April, data from the Office for National Statistics showed this morning.

The deficit in April stood at £10.4bn in April, up 13.1pc compared with the same month last year, the ONS said, citing figures that exclude state-controleld banks.

The figure was higher than expected, with forecasts pointing to a deficit of £8.9bn.

It had revised last year's shortfall down by £3.3bn to £48.7bn.

The deficit is expected to widen again in 2017/18 when finance minister Philip Hammond will have fewer one-off factors to help him than last year.
 
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