No I don't, it is the only logical choice that has any chance of achieving something I value.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Yes, the Brexit subject is a religious subject, and it's why Zlatan doesn't understand the EU's relationship with member countries,
What he needs to realise is that the EU is a religion, a church, a faith. It invites both believers and sceptics to join and then promises that if one keeps the faith, nirvana in the form of a heaven of perfect unity and peace will eventually result.
Like all religions, it gives guidance on how the congregation should behave in order to live a good life, but like any church it cannot enforce that guidance. All it can do is preach and hope, while expressing sadness when members stray from the path of righteousness. An example is their expression of sorrow at the Brexit outcome.
Of course like any church it cannot endorse those who stray, since that could lead other believers astray, so can only assist the apostate towards their choice of eventual hell by non-cooperation with the unbelievers false ambitions.
Of course I fully understand if Zlatan finds the concept of Jean-Claude Juncker as Pope difficult to swallow.
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Nobody has any right to question or even comment on why folk vote as they do...but IMHO voting for Lib Dem is exactly same as not voting, unless ofcourse they do suddenly emerge phoenix like as a viable government...but that's not going to happen...
What should be happening in our democracy is a viable party ( ie one both capable and potentially successful) should be representing all those voters like you and I ( ? Amazingly I think ee,d vote for same policies)..That party is Labour, they should appoint a leader capable of winning and of running country..ie) one saying things that attract us lot...and as I said earlier ( which upset you for some reason) even if that meant him saying we are not leaving...The voters aate there waiting for right things from Labour...just read these posts,look on facebook, sspeak to people. An awful lot are not being represented, so they vote Tory...there isn't really any choice.
Could Farron form a government? Could Corbyn run country , without support of his own mp's..
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Lot of truth in your religion anology...most wars are fought on religious grounds, the least christian like people I,ve had dealings with were all church goers, ISIS make some strong religous claims, Church have covered up more sin than BBC.. I,m neither religous or atheist but certainly don't believe in blind faith.
Junker as pope...thats as close to blasphemy as you can get..
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you just do that to me?
Or are you prepared to make an exception in your own case as usual?
He's doing his "Moses" thing again, (Pretend you haven't noticed.)What a very good parable that is too 'flecc'!
Tom
Todays Sermon
Lord, Grant me the WD40 for things that are stuck
the duct tape to fasten those things that are loose
And the Wisdom to know the difference
(And mail Zlatan a cuddly toy of Jeremy Corbyn please
As a customer of "Compare the Market")
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Yes, I started with the apology...but betting on 3rd horse in a 2 horse race is a bit pointless, even more so when one of the 2 horses is lame today.
It's not our fault you feel this way, we did warn you that the Bright colourful Brexit Balloon would turn out to be a Whoopee Cushion.
Vote Brexit get May.
My Goodness what a terrific Prize!
Thank you but can I have the consolation prize of being disembowelled with a blunt spoon instead?
I'll get back to you after the Enigma Machine decodes your message.
I'm an Atheist thank God, I wouldn't want to subscribe to any Religion that would have me.
... I disliked this post for a few reasons the first being that I thought that you are dazzled by the brilliance of your analogy and blinded to realities.
The EU is an existing entity, there is no leap of faith required. .. a fundamental requirement for any religion.
Should one seek a religious analogy, perhaps the Brexit camp more closely resembles a cult. Belief in something not proven, intolerance of non believers and a shunning of outsiders...
No , I like Fleccs analogy. Both EU and religion require blind faith both are ultimately fairly useless...to my mind praying for some event is one in front of doing nothing at all. You are just pretending to help by praying which is exactly what EU does with directives..
Once worked with a devout Christian ( claimed) Every break he,d pray for 5 minutes. One day , quite rudely I suppose, I asked him what he had just prayed for. His reply..." a new car". Didn't seem that christian like to me, so told him he,d be better looking in free adds.Which is a deeper comment than initially you,ll assume.
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Too serious, it was a joke of course, emphasised by the Juncker mention at the end. From time to time threads like this need something to lighten them, but I thought it previously abundantly clear that I am a dedicated supporter of the EU.
I agree with your cult analogy, quite fitting at times.
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... When man speaks to God we call it praying. When God answers or speaks to man we call it paranoia. Go figure!
He just a little down in the mouth over the Brexit Balloon going soggy
This guy claims to have never voted Labour but fully intends to on June 8th, giving Jeremy Corbyn as a major reason for so doing:
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