I'm not speculating about anything. You said:
Can you not see how this entire statement is how YOU benefit from being in the EU.
I could go to UK and Germany well before the UK joined. Only had to show my passport or my carte nationale d'identité. Nothing changed after the UK joined.
A change in Labour policies?
They would not havee to alter all way to Blair.
I know lorry drivers!! I ride with a good few of them, they earn good money and they are from the UK. The reason companies have to get foreign work is because not enough UK nationals will do it. You really think they'd rather pay a Romanian than a local? Its because the locals won't do it. So you are benefiting, because the only way the locals would consider it is if the wages went up and up and up. Then guess what, you'd be paying for it. No improvement in service, or product, it would just cost more.
on the contrary!
This is simply not true, the people most certainly want the things that Jeremy Corbyn promotes such as more money for the NHS, smaller class sizes and doing away with university charges.
No, he gave a choice of the same, and large numbers complained of exactly that.
let's change the word middle classes to middle income classes to avoid confusion.
I don't see it that way at all Flecc in regards to Corbyns popularity . His position is self inflicted, from his regard of Diane Abbot ( in both senses) to his stance on Trident,Nuclear power and defence. Even his insistence on being filmed leaving his (ex) council house. Its fine been a man of the people and down to earth but voters still want what they perceive as a successful man..voting for Corbyn is like voting for that idealist living on council estate down the road. All your heros( which I agree with) were perceived as successful and had right policies. Unfortunately Corbyn has neither. Short clever Milliband should come back from states and win this election for Labour.
The Corbyn policies I quoted were exactly the same socialist policies. For all you know Attlee may well have been as anti-nuclear as Corbyn and was very likely to have been, but being at the end of a war he didn't have to face that issue
I agree David Miliband is their best hope.
You explain so much better than I! Let me repeat your line:
... Woosh, please try and remain factual. You could go from France to Germany because both were in the EEC, you could go from France to UK, as a visitor using a passport. You had no rights when in the UK. The only sovereign country where it's citizen's had some rights to the UK was Ireland, and that was for historical reasons.
... In respect of lorry drivers local or international will there be such a demand in the UK for them post Brexit?. If wealth decreases, there will be less economic activity, less imports less, long distance transport. And whatever long distance lorries there are will be stuck in multi mile tailbacks at custom clearance posts at Dover , Newry , Zeebrugge etc.or perhaps Glasgow? This last bit is just opinion.
you are talking about 2% decrease.
As as been said a number of times Brexit has not yet happened. So I am not going to speculate, what if it is 10% or 20% not 2% of a reduction. ? As I write this I am listening to a speech by Mr Barnier, to our irish parliament, and he is well informed about our local requirements. He has more detail than any of bland assertions from Westminster
And what if as Peter Hargreaves suggests we have a 10% increase ??? But that is too optimistic no doubt..
.. that could happen.. I suspect that it will not. The UK could develop a new technology which the world wants and is willing to pay for .. like arm processors , they could become global giants in financial management, but by cutting themselves away from the worlds largest market, and making their courts the arbitrator in trade disputes is no longer a runner.
.... The fruits of tomorrow are in the seeds of today, can you really express optimism when you look at the state of UK education, industry, industrial development, and political leadership today.
