Brexit, for once some facts.

[Wicky]

Nope not in the slightest - His Polish father fought in Italy in the war and settled afterwards in Essex.

https://theoldfirestation.wordpress.com/2015/03/06/all-roads-lead-to-rome/

 

[oldtom]

After 15 years running business in Spain with my time spent equally between France/ Spain /Uk I think I have a good knowledge of how countries and people in them actually work ( well actually dont in Spain) But hey, you can glean all your knowledge of EU without ever leaving Hull...take my flat cap off to you there OG...
Spain is in a severe mess...its sinking...it needs EU and every Euro it get hold of.But that's not the side of EU anybody wants you to know about...so its to be expected you know feck all about Spain or the real EU...you have been conned...and you don't even know..
Satan's best trick was getting everybody to think he didn't exist...well that doesn't even compare with the con EU has done..to some old fools. The one about them stopping war is classic...They have done nothing...literally..
Anybody who has lived in Spain, certain parts of France ir Greece would never hold EU up as a shining light for anything.

This pretty well sums you up for me............



Tom

 

[Zlatan]

You know ... Time has a way of moving quickly and catching you unaware of the passing years. It seems just yesterday that I was young, just married and embarking on my new life with my mate. Yet in a way, it seems like eons ago, and I wonder where all the years went. I know that I lived them all. I have glimpses of how it was back then and of all my hopes and dreams.





But, here it is... The back nine of my life and it catches me by surprise...How did I get here so fast? Where did the years go and where did my youth go?





I remember well seeing older people through the years and thinking that those older people were years away from me and that I was only on the first hole and the back nine was so far off that I could not fathom it or imagine fully what it would be like.





But, here it is...my friends are retired and getting grey...they move slower and I see an older person now. Some are in better and some worse shape than me...but, I see the great change....Not like the ones that I remember who were young and vibrant...but, like me, their age is beginning to show and we are now those older folks that we used to see and never thought we'd become.





Each day now, I find that just getting a shower is a real target for the day! And taking a nap is not a treat anymore... it's mandatory! Cause if I don't on my own free will... I just fall asleep where I sit!





And so...now I enter into this new season of my life unprepared for all the aches and pains and the loss of strength and ability to go and do things that I wish I had done but never did!! But, at least I know, that though I'm on the back nine, and I'm not sure how long it will last...this I know, that when it's over on this earth...it's over. A new adventure will begin! Yes, I have regrets. There are things I wish I hadn't done...things I should have done, but indeed, there are many things I'm happy to have done. It's all in a lifetime.





So, if you're not on the back nine yet...let me remind you, that it will be here faster than you think. So, whatever you would like to accomplish in your life please do it quickly! Don't put things off too long!! Life goes by quickly. So, do what you can today, as you can never be sure whether you're on the back nine or not!





You have no promise that you will see all the seasons of your life....so, live for today and say all the things that you want your loved ones to remember...and hope that they appreciate and love you for all the things that you have done for them in all the years past!!





"Life" is a gift to you.

The way you live your life is your gift to those who come after. Make it a fantastic one. LIVE IT WELL! ENJOY TODAY! DO SOMETHING FUN! BE HAPPY ! HAVE A GREAT DAY Remember "It is health that is real wealth and not pieces of gold and silver.





LASTLY, CONSIDER THIS:

~Your kids are becoming you......but your grandchildren are perfect!

~Going out is good.. Coming home is better!

~You forget names.... But it's OK because some people forgot they even knew you!!!

~You realize you're never going to be really good at anything like golf.

~The things you used to care to do, you aren't as interested in anymore, but you really don't care that you aren't as interested.

~You sleep better on a lounge chair with the TV 'ON' than in bed. It's called "pre-sleep".

~You miss the days when everything worked with just an "ON" and "OFF" switch..

~You tend to use more 4 letter words ... "what?"..."when?"... ???

~You notice everything they sell in stores is "sleeveless"?!!!

~What used to be freckles are now liver spots.

~Everybody whispers.

~You have 3 sizes of clothes in your closet.... 2 of which you will never wear.



~~~But Old is good in some things: Old Songs, Old movies, and best of all, OLD FRIENDS!!





Stay well, "OLD FRIEND!" Send this on to other "Old Friends!" and let them laugh in AGREEMENT!!! It's Not What You Gather, But What You Scatter That Tells What Kind Of Life You Have Lived.





TODAY IS THE OLDEST YOU'VE EVER BEEN; YET THE YOUNGEST YOU'LL EVER BE, SO ENJOY THIS DAY WHILE IT LASTS

 

[Zlatan]

OG and Tom...dont be p!110cks all your lives..have a day off..It will make you feel much better about life.

 

[Croxden]

BTW, very poor use of comma in your post though.

Kettles and teapots.

 

[Croxden]

... Trailor , turncoat, shure this only the wetness of the rain that makes the Irish so green. They may have more sun in Spain and only have rain on the plains, but what other small country could give you the four seasons including sun ,rain, sleet , storm's and snow on the same day!

England.

 

[Danidl]

You know ... Time has a way of moving quickly and catching you unaware of the passing years. It seems just yesterday that I was young, just married and embarking on my new life with my mate. Yet in a way, it seems like eons ago, and I wonder where all the years went. I know that I lived them all. I have glimpses of how it was back then and of all my hopes and dreams.





But, here it is... The back nine of my life and it catches me by surprise...How did I get here so fast? Where did the years go and where did my youth go?





I remember well seeing older people through the years and thinking that those older people were years away from me and that I was only on the first hole and the back nine was so far off that I could not fathom it or imagine fully what it would be like.





But, here it is...my friends are retired and getting grey...they move slower and I see an older person now. Some are in better and some worse shape than me...but, I see the great change....Not like the ones that I remember who were young and vibrant...but, like me, their age is beginning to show and we are now those older folks that we used to see and never thought we'd become.





Each day now, I find that just getting a shower is a real target for the day! And taking a nap is not a treat anymore... it's mandatory! Cause if I don't on my own free will... I just fall asleep where I sit!





And so...now I enter into this new season of my life unprepared for all the aches and pains and the loss of strength and ability to go and do things that I wish I had done but never did!! But, at least I know, that though I'm on the back nine, and I'm not sure how long it will last...this I know, that when it's over on this earth...it's over. A new adventure will begin! Yes, I have regrets. There are things I wish I hadn't done...things I should have done, but indeed, there are many things I'm happy to have done. It's all in a lifetime.





So, if you're not on the back nine yet...let me remind you, that it will be here faster than you think. So, whatever you would like to accomplish in your life please do it quickly! Don't put things off too long!! Life goes by quickly. So, do what you can today, as you can never be sure whether you're on the back nine or not!





You have no promise that you will see all the seasons of your life....so, live for today and say all the things that you want your loved ones to remember...and hope that they appreciate and love you for all the things that you have done for them in all the years past!!





"Life" is a gift to you.

The way you live your life is your gift to those who come after. Make it a fantastic one. LIVE IT WELL! ENJOY TODAY! DO SOMETHING FUN! BE HAPPY ! HAVE A GREAT DAY Remember "It is health that is real wealth and not pieces of gold and silver.





LASTLY, CONSIDER THIS:

~Your kids are becoming you......but your grandchildren are perfect!

~Going out is good.. Coming home is better!

~You forget names.... But it's OK because some people forgot they even knew you!!!

~You realize you're never going to be really good at anything like golf.

~The things you used to care to do, you aren't as interested in anymore, but you really don't care that you aren't as interested.

~You sleep better on a lounge chair with the TV 'ON' than in bed. It's called "pre-sleep".

~You miss the days when everything worked with just an "ON" and "OFF" switch..

~You tend to use more 4 letter words ... "what?"..."when?"... ???

~You notice everything they sell in stores is "sleeveless"?!!!

~What used to be freckles are now liver spots.

~Everybody whispers.

~You have 3 sizes of clothes in your closet.... 2 of which you will never wear.



~~~But Old is good in some things: Old Songs, Old movies, and best of all, OLD FRIENDS!!





Stay well, "OLD FRIEND!" Send this on to other "Old Friends!" and let them laugh in AGREEMENT!!! It's Not What You Gather, But What You Scatter That Tells What Kind Of Life You Have Lived.





TODAY IS THE OLDEST YOU'VE EVER BEEN; YET THE YOUNGEST YOU'LL EVER BE, SO ENJOY THIS DAY WHILE IT LASTS

Interesting change in tack.

 

[oldgroaner]

You know ... Time has a way of moving quickly and catching you unaware of the passing years. It seems just yesterday that I was young, just married and embarking on my new life with my mate. Yet in a way, it seems like eons ago, and I wonder where all the years went. I know that I lived them all. I have glimpses of how it was back then and of all my hopes and dreams.





But, here it is... The back nine of my life and it catches me by surprise...How did I get here so fast? Where did the years go and where did my youth go?





I remember well seeing older people through the years and thinking that those older people were years away from me and that I was only on the first hole and the back nine was so far off that I could not fathom it or imagine fully what it would be like.





But, here it is...my friends are retired and getting grey...they move slower and I see an older person now. Some are in better and some worse shape than me...but, I see the great change....Not like the ones that I remember who were young and vibrant...but, like me, their age is beginning to show and we are now those older folks that we used to see and never thought we'd become.





Each day now, I find that just getting a shower is a real target for the day! And taking a nap is not a treat anymore... it's mandatory! Cause if I don't on my own free will... I just fall asleep where I sit!





And so...now I enter into this new season of my life unprepared for all the aches and pains and the loss of strength and ability to go and do things that I wish I had done but never did!! But, at least I know, that though I'm on the back nine, and I'm not sure how long it will last...this I know, that when it's over on this earth...it's over. A new adventure will begin! Yes, I have regrets. There are things I wish I hadn't done...things I should have done, but indeed, there are many things I'm happy to have done. It's all in a lifetime.





So, if you're not on the back nine yet...let me remind you, that it will be here faster than you think. So, whatever you would like to accomplish in your life please do it quickly! Don't put things off too long!! Life goes by quickly. So, do what you can today, as you can never be sure whether you're on the back nine or not!





You have no promise that you will see all the seasons of your life....so, live for today and say all the things that you want your loved ones to remember...and hope that they appreciate and love you for all the things that you have done for them in all the years past!!





"Life" is a gift to you.

The way you live your life is your gift to those who come after. Make it a fantastic one. LIVE IT WELL! ENJOY TODAY! DO SOMETHING FUN! BE HAPPY ! HAVE A GREAT DAY Remember "It is health that is real wealth and not pieces of gold and silver.





LASTLY, CONSIDER THIS:

~Your kids are becoming you......but your grandchildren are perfect!

~Going out is good.. Coming home is better!

~You forget names.... But it's OK because some people forgot they even knew you!!!

~You realize you're never going to be really good at anything like golf.

~The things you used to care to do, you aren't as interested in anymore, but you really don't care that you aren't as interested.

~You sleep better on a lounge chair with the TV 'ON' than in bed. It's called "pre-sleep".

~You miss the days when everything worked with just an "ON" and "OFF" switch..

~You tend to use more 4 letter words ... "what?"..."when?"... ???

~You notice everything they sell in stores is "sleeveless"?!!!

~What used to be freckles are now liver spots.

~Everybody whispers.

~You have 3 sizes of clothes in your closet.... 2 of which you will never wear.



~~~But Old is good in some things: Old Songs, Old movies, and best of all, OLD FRIENDS!!





Stay well, "OLD FRIEND!" Send this on to other "Old Friends!" and let them laugh in AGREEMENT!!! It's Not What You Gather, But What You Scatter That Tells What Kind Of Life You Have Lived.





TODAY IS THE OLDEST YOU'VE EVER BEEN; YET THE YOUNGEST YOU'LL EVER BE, SO ENJOY THIS DAY WHILE IT LASTS

Hey! I can cut and paste too....

That's good and original my boy
But the Bits that are good aren't original
And the bits that are original aren't good.

Have you accidentally looked in a mirror this morning?

 

[oldgroaner]

Interesting change in tack.

He has been "not quite himself for the last couple of days" it's been like watching a kid's colourful top that's spinning gradually slowing down and starting to wobble.
He was even making remarks about Satan being a "deceiver"
Not a good sign .
Hopefully normal service will be resumed after the Bank holiday.
Still, he was off topic as usual so there is hope.

 

[oldtom]

Interesting change in tack.

Not really. It's a tactic lifted straight from the internet trolling handbook which describes an approach whereby the hostile toll suddenly adopts a somewhat sycophantic approach, ingratiating itself with its target audience in an effort to gain credibility and become accepted by some; the process designed to create discord among the target audience, giving a perverse kind of pleasure the Germans refer to as schadenfreude.

Tom

 

[Zlatan]

OK , OG and Tom...dont take a day off..
And by the way the Germans don't call that shadenfraude.

 

[Zlatan]

Note with interest and dismay Jeremy Wright is demanding labour champion doesn't face prosecution for mass murder,lying, treason and for being Tony Blair....
A true remainer if ever there was one.
Still not worked out how you remainers resolve that one...having Tony Blair champion your cause. You couldn't write it ..

 

[oldtom]

This is the 'Guardian' piece about the Attorney General's alleged intention to block the prosecution of ex-PM, Tony B-liar.

I sincerely hope this fails and Blair is duly arrested and taken into custody before being handed over to the ICC at the Hague. That is the rightful place for such warmongers to be tried.

uk-attorney-general-in-bid-to-block-case-against-tony-blair-over-iraq-war

Tom

 

[Woosh]

Blair should be prosecuted as a test case.
Even if it fails, it will deter future PMs taking us into conflicts based on dodgy intelligence.

 

[oldgroaner]

OK , OG and Tom...dont take a day off..
And by the way the Germans don't call that shadenfraude.

Would that be Shadefreude oh... I see Fraud is involved

 

[oldgroaner]

Note with interest and dismay Jeremy Wright is demanding labour champion doesn't face prosecution for mass murder,lying, treason and for being Tony Blair....
A true remainer if ever there was one.
Still not worked out how you remainers resolve that one...having Tony Blair champion your cause. You couldn't write it ..

Getting desperate for material aren't you? how on Earth does Blair mange to discredit a cause because he supports it?
Using the same logic your support must be even more damaging to the leave cause, (Assuming you are still supporting it today)
You can't have one without the other can you?
And as for lying, you seem to make an exception in your own case.
But still I prefer to think leavers aren't all like that, again I leave stereotyping to the less intelligent.

 

[oldgroaner]

More of the Goodness flowing from Brexit...
"
Ministers are reportedly preparing to scrap the European Union’s green energy targets after Britain’s exit from the bloc.

Government sources told The Daily Telegraph the target – under the EU’s Renewable Energy Directive – is likely to be binned after Brexit.
“Trade and growth are now priorities for all posts – you will all need to prioritise developing capability in this area,” the note said, adding: “Some economic security-related work like climate change and illegal wildlife trade will be scaled down.”
“Under the UK Climate Change Act, we set our own ambitious target of at least 80 per cent emissions reduction by 2050 and have already made good progress with emissions 38 per cent lower today than in 1990.”

The report also comes after civil service documents were photographed on a train last week, detailing plans to put more efforts into international trade rather than the tackling climate change – a likely result of the demands from Britain’s exit from the EU.

“Trade and growth are now priorities for all posts – you will all need to prioritise developing capability in this area,” the note said, adding: “Some economic security-related work like climate change and illegal wildlife trade will be scaled down.”

Interesting that now we get our news from "Photographs on a Train"
It seems we are at the stage of the Government using good old
"Plausible Deniability" to test out Public Reaction before announcing new policy changes.

So far we have scaled down

Restriction of Free Movement of people
Climate change legislation
Reduced Money into NHS
Upped Student Fees
Changed Pension Rights
Robbing the Disabled of cars
Getting the Navy back to Sea with new outboard motors (or oars)

What next has to go?
Isn't Brexit the best thing since.............Nope can't think of anything it's better than....

 

[Woosh]

So far we have scaled down

Restriction of Free Movement of people
Climate change legislation
Reduced Money into NHS
Upped Student Fees
Changed Pension Rights
Robbing the Disabled of cars
Getting the Navy back to Sea with new outboard motors (or oars)

What next has to go?

Then make sure you and your friends do not vote for the tories at the next GE.

 

[Zlatan]

More of the Goodness flowing from Brexit...
"
Ministers are reportedly preparing to scrap the European Union’s green energy targets after Britain’s exit from the bloc.

Government sources told The Daily Telegraph the target – under the EU’s Renewable Energy Directive – is likely to be binned after Brexit.
“Trade and growth are now priorities for all posts – you will all need to prioritise developing capability in this area,” the note said, adding: “Some economic security-related work like climate change and illegal wildlife trade will be scaled down.”
“Under the UK Climate Change Act, we set our own ambitious target of at least 80 per cent emissions reduction by 2050 and have already made good progress with emissions 38 per cent lower today than in 1990.”

The report also comes after civil service documents were photographed on a train last week, detailing plans to put more efforts into international trade rather than the tackling climate change – a likely result of the demands from Britain’s exit from the EU.

“Trade and growth are now priorities for all posts – you will all need to prioritise developing capability in this area,” the note said, adding: “Some economic security-related work like climate change and illegal wildlife trade will be scaled down.”

Interesting that now we get our news from "Photographs on a Train"
It seems we are at the stage of the Government using good old
"Plausible Deniability" to test out Public Reaction before announcing new policy changes.

So far we have scaled down

Restriction of Free Movement of people
Climate change legislation
Reduced Money into NHS
Upped Student Fees
Changed Pension Rights
Robbing the Disabled of cars
Getting the Navy back to Sea with new outboard motors (or oars)

What next has to go?
Isn't Brexit the best thing since.............Nope can't think of anything it's better than....

I guess they must be filling lakes this morning and you are confined in your 14 by 8 ft aluminium box...At least Hull is getting a rest...( from you not the rain)

 

[oldgroaner]

Then make sure you and your friends do not vote for the tories at the next GE.

I never have in the past, so no problem!

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