.. well you would have to agree with her , those chocolate eggs don't boil well and they make terrible omlettes.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Trump is showing his true colours when this sort of thing happens
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Nigel Farage and other right-wing populists turn on Donald Trump after missile strikes
Many former Donald Trump supporters have turned on the President after his decision to retaliate against the Assad regime for its chemical weapons attack.
Nigel Farage, Milo Yiannopoulos Katie Hopkins, right-wing vlogger Paul Joseph Watson, Ukip leader Paul Nuttall and Ukip donor Arron Banks are among the Trump supporters who have been disappointed by their hero.
Mr Farage said: "I am very surprised by this. I think a lot of Trump voters will be waking up this morning and scratching their heads and saying 'where will it all end?'
For once Nige is taking sense, well said indeed!
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Nigel Farage and other right-wing populists turn on Donald Trump after missile strikes
Many former Donald Trump supporters have turned on the President after his decision to retaliate against the Assad regime for its chemical weapons attack.
Nigel Farage, Milo Yiannopoulos Katie Hopkins, right-wing vlogger Paul Joseph Watson, Ukip leader Paul Nuttall and Ukip donor Arron Banks are among the Trump supporters who have been disappointed by their hero.
Mr Farage said: "I am very surprised by this. I think a lot of Trump voters will be waking up this morning and scratching their heads and saying 'where will it all end?'
For once Nige is taking sense, well said indeed!
Here is a sample of Murdochs Law at work, this is in today's Daily Express
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MAPPED: Brexit Britain's enemies revealed – and guess who REALLY wants the UK to suffer
BRITAIN’S enemies and allies have been revealed in the wake of the nation’s decision to unshackle itself from the embattled European Union (EU).
By Rebecca Perring
The only enemies this country has are people who stoke hate with articles like this one.
The paper is subversive and should be told to tone it's comments down words like enemies are far too extreme when we are supposedly trying to have friendly negotiations with these countries, and Murdoch and co are trying to deliberately sabotage the process.
The Express is simply the propaganda vehicle of the Brexit conspiracy group
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MAPPED: Brexit Britain's enemies revealed – and guess who REALLY wants the UK to suffer
BRITAIN’S enemies and allies have been revealed in the wake of the nation’s decision to unshackle itself from the embattled European Union (EU).
By Rebecca Perring
The only enemies this country has are people who stoke hate with articles like this one.
The paper is subversive and should be told to tone it's comments down words like enemies are far too extreme when we are supposedly trying to have friendly negotiations with these countries, and Murdoch and co are trying to deliberately sabotage the process.
The Express is simply the propaganda vehicle of the Brexit conspiracy group
... Well if they really identify the people who really want the UK people to suffer. That would be a public service. As Donald Thusk has said leaving the EU is punishment enough so it cannot be anyone external to the UK
Russia was told in advance by pentagon what was about to happen - giving them a chance to bunker down and switch off their much vaunted air defence systems and missiles they'd installed in Syria - leaving Assad to take the sucker punch. Esp so as Putin had warned that Syria would be under Russian protection as homeland is to attack by nuclear deterance.
Interestingly Trump was at the time meeting with China's President Xi with NK at the top of the agenda so the primary intended message I'm sure wasn't missed that US under Trump has hammers and will use them.
Either that or Russian air defence simply can't stop incoming air attacks even when forewarned which would be humiliating for Putin.
See Rusky mixed spin on the situation - Failure by selfless hero rusky commander of missile defences in Syria to shoot down cruise missiles saves Putin from obvious humilation and the world from certain destruction!
http://www.pravdareport.com/hotspots/conflicts/07-04-2017/137411-russia_usa_nuclear_war-0/
What are we supposed to make of the possibly fake new that 59 cruise missiles were launched and only 23 allegedly made it to the target if there was no defence mounted against them?
Even with that number getting through we have this headline this morning from the Express
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Syrian fighter jets TAKE OFF from base Donald Trump bombed
SYRIAN fighter jets took off again today from the base bombed by US cruise missiles last night in retaliation to a gas attack on unarmed civilians."
Expensive business at a Million dollars each, and replacement at one and a half million dollars a shot as the newer ones cost more
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-how-much-it-will-cost-to-replace-the-tomahawks-used-in-syria-2017-04-07
Now if the 36 that didn't hit the target were not shot down the question remains, were they lost, self destructed, and did they kill anyone?
Can you really launch 23 Tomahawks and still create insufficient damage to put a supposedly undefended air base out of action?
And how can such an unreliable weapon have become both "Weapon of Choice" and after such an appallingly poor performance result in this.
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Syria air strikes: Tomahawk maker's share rise after US cruise missile attack
Stocks in the company rose around 1 per cent in early morning trading in the US. Broader markets were little changed
Truly the world has gone completely MAD
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in situations like this, everyone can see which media is controlled.
There is so far no concrete evidence other than pictures of bombing holes, no soil analysis, no biological investigation, and yet some news organisations including our BBC have no doubt about who's guilty.
There is so far no concrete evidence other than pictures of bombing holes, no soil analysis, no biological investigation, and yet some news organisations including our BBC have no doubt about who's guilty.
Proportion of missiles is Russian//Syrian take on it and would take with a pinch of salt. A lot depends on warheads fitted and damage intended. US could have used shrapnel intensive warheads to shred aircraft in open or more targeted the dispersed bunkers with semi-open entrances - some escaped serious damage from pics I've seen and all it would have needed would be a quick broom over runways and surviving planes could skeedaddle.
In comparison Vulcan strike of Falklands the aim was to deny Argentinians fast jets using runway with specialised deep penetrating heavy bombs and placement and angle of stick was critical. Any damage to aircraft around and about was incidental.
https://twitter.com/IraqiSecurity/status/850385429144711173
https://gdb.rferl.org/91C63F81-5876-4E24-8EDF-8B773722B153_w650_r0_s.jpg
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3031297.1491600749!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/gallery_1200/shayrat-airfield-syria.jpg
This shows multiple strikes (3–5) against each aircraft bunker - runways look unscathed and presumably untargeted.
In comparison Vulcan strike of Falklands the aim was to deny Argentinians fast jets using runway with specialised deep penetrating heavy bombs and placement and angle of stick was critical. Any damage to aircraft around and about was incidental.
https://twitter.com/IraqiSecurity/status/850385429144711173
https://gdb.rferl.org/91C63F81-5876-4E24-8EDF-8B773722B153_w650_r0_s.jpg
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3031297.1491600749!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/gallery_1200/shayrat-airfield-syria.jpg
This shows multiple strikes (3–5) against each aircraft bunker - runways look unscathed and presumably untargeted.
Not targetting the runways seems on the face of it a poor choice if denying the Syrians the ability to employ chemical weapons from the air, was the intent,as they can always fly in assets from elsewhere.
From the Independent
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Boris Johnson says freedom of movement can continue after Brexit
Foreign Secretary claims to be 'one of the few British politicians to speak up on the benefits of immigration'
Boris Johnson has admitted Britain may continue to allow the free movement of people from the EU after Brexit.
The Foreign Secretary said immigration controls were likely to be imposed after the so-called implementation phase, which will extend beyond the two-year negotiations.
Continuing to allow EU migrants to settle in the UK without restrictions would allow the economy to attract talented people, Mr Johnson said.
Asked if Britain would accept full free movement of people after the March 2019 deadline for talks to end membership of the bloc, Mr Johnson said such a deal was possible.
"Ideally I think it could be done, what with goodwill and imagination it could be done," he told reporters in Athens.
"In the last 10 years I have been one of the few British politicians to speak up on the benefits of immigration," he said.
Mr Johnson added that he did not want to discourage talented people from coming to Britain, but said the government wanted control over flows.
"We don't want to close the doors. We simply want to have a system that is balanced," he said.
Apparently with Boris all things are possible and his answer is "Whatever you want it to be"
A lot of Brexit Voters must be getting very confused about what it will actually amount to by now.
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Boris Johnson says freedom of movement can continue after Brexit
Foreign Secretary claims to be 'one of the few British politicians to speak up on the benefits of immigration'
Boris Johnson has admitted Britain may continue to allow the free movement of people from the EU after Brexit.
The Foreign Secretary said immigration controls were likely to be imposed after the so-called implementation phase, which will extend beyond the two-year negotiations.
Continuing to allow EU migrants to settle in the UK without restrictions would allow the economy to attract talented people, Mr Johnson said.
Asked if Britain would accept full free movement of people after the March 2019 deadline for talks to end membership of the bloc, Mr Johnson said such a deal was possible.
"Ideally I think it could be done, what with goodwill and imagination it could be done," he told reporters in Athens.
"In the last 10 years I have been one of the few British politicians to speak up on the benefits of immigration," he said.
Mr Johnson added that he did not want to discourage talented people from coming to Britain, but said the government wanted control over flows.
"We don't want to close the doors. We simply want to have a system that is balanced," he said.
Apparently with Boris all things are possible and his answer is "Whatever you want it to be"
A lot of Brexit Voters must be getting very confused about what it will actually amount to by now.
The sidebar news article this morning about a Russian warship entering the eastern Med and sailing in the direction of two US navy destroyers - that is worrying, having the potential for escalation into something far worse than anyone might imagine.
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The most likely conclusion is that the "Ready for any contingency" American Navy had found themselves armed with the WRONG warheads in the ship's magazines, and daren't admit it to Trump!
They didn't think much before the election, I don't suppose they are thinking much now.
That's why we are where we're at.
Esteban González Pons speaking at the EU parliament:
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Don't worry , what usually happens when American and Russian warhips, Airfraft or submarines enter the same area of sea is as usual there is a collision or a lot of face pulling rather than a shooting match.
This is what happened in just SIX MONTHS in 2014
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The European Leadership Network (ELN) examined 39 incidents of military encounters between Russian planes and boats, and Nato forces and allies, in the last eight months to conclude that the "highly disturbing" violations of national airspace had caused several incidents where military confrontation or the loss of life was narrowly avoided.
Its report listed near-misses including violations of national airspace, emergency scrambles, narrowly avoided mid-air collisions, close encounters at sea and simulated bombing attacks stretching from the North Sea to the Baltic and Arctic regions and along the US coast.
A spokesperson for the ELN said: “Even though direct military confrontation has been avoided so far, the mix of more aggressive Russian posturing and the readiness of Western forces to show resolve increases the risk of unintended escalation and the danger of losing control over events.”
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Mark Carney now making positive noises about Brexit...more opportunities for business and lower unemployment..." are possible"
Bit different to his last June statements...but then again they were different to his earlier ones...
Two U turns...??!!
Bit different to his last June statements...but then again they were different to his earlier ones...
Two U turns...??!!
Well if Boris's statements are anything to go by there will be so little that actually changes through Brexit it will be hard to tell if we have left or not!
I don't know about you , but I sense a sell out is in the offing.