Brexit, for once some facts.

OxygenJames

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Ah Plon! How's your brother, Wayne?

I thought you'd pop up with a new expression of the benefits 'Brexit' will bring to we UK taxpayers.........Yep, I 'm wrong again!

Just explain for me though; how am I wrong in knowing that two and two don't add up to five?

Tom
Hey Tom. :) How's your Sunday going? Thing is - it was you who said you were perhaps wrong in thinking 2+2=5. I was just agreeing with you.

I know you think I am somebody else. But. I ain't! I am me! Ha. Really.
 

oldgroaner

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Correct procedures have been followed which have resulted in the UK being about to leave the EU. It's now time to put aside the hurt of losing and to present a united front to our negotiating opposition.
What negotiating position would that be? the EU will offer a temporary arrangement to avoid disruption to itself and then gradually freeze us out, and why not?
We had our chance, only paid 50% of our dues, enjoyed opt out of closer union and made ourselves long term surplus to requirements.

All they have to do is offer us a temporary sop, then back away when it suits them, leaving us at the mercy of either America or China.

Pretty soon the country will come to it's senses and realise a grave error has been commited by people who "knew what they voted for" but found it wasn't after all.
With any luck there will be a radical overhaul of the way this Country has been Governed for far too long and right wing policies revealed for what they are.
Nothing more than a destructive exploitation of the poor by the rich.
Tell you what , you unite all the leavers and negotiate as much as you like, since you represent "The will of the people" which means we are not people, so why should we get involved?

This disaster is of your making, don't expect the 48% to take any responsibility for your mistakes.
Time for Brexiters to take responsibility and prove themselves worthy.

AS you have pointed out only too frequently in the past there is nothing the 48% can do about what is going to happen.
With the exception of course of not applauding or approving of something we don't want.
We are not the ones intent on damaging the future of the nation, you are.
 

oldgroaner

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This 'march' will have no impact. Its the death rattle of the losers. It will change nothing. But it will give some people a purpose for the day. They will feel they made a difference.
It will at least reveal to the EU that the Referendum isn't universally popular if nothing else, after all we don't really want their growing conviction that the English are quite mad to go unchallenged do we?

If they think there is no opposition to Brexit in this country they will conclude we are not worth taking seriously and are likely to treat us as a bunch of fools that can be kidded with any old rubbish.
Who can blame them?
 

Kudoscycles

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Theresa May should read her history....Charles 1 tried to dictate parliament,he died a foot shorter,after a civil war.
He was replaced by Oliver Cromwell (aka Nigel Farage),who ran England as a military country for eleven years.
Throughout this period the Irish and Scots were revolting and troublesome,constantly rebeling.
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Jimod

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Good for a laugh.....the guy who was the sole UKIP contender in the N.I. Province elections remarked today....' I don't understand why our vote has fallen'......does UKIP hire contenders especially if they are punchy and/or have a low IQ.?
KudosDave
You've got it the wrong way round. UKIP doesn't choose people with a low IQ, it's people with a low IQ who choose UKIP.
 

tillson

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Hey Tom. :) How's your Sunday going? Thing is - it was you who said you were perhaps wrong in thinking 2+2=5. I was just agreeing with you.

I know you think I am somebody else. But. I ain't! I am me! Ha. Really.
I'd missed this. Are we going around the, "you are posting under a different name" thing again? They tried that particular discrediting tactic on me. An idiotic clown who acted as a fluffer for old groaner and old tom, called derv, accused me of posting under another name. He disappeared from the forum shortly afterwards.
 
Back on with some facts....

More great news this morning, what were people saying about the EU collapsing again??

Germany and France are experiencing an economic resurgence, driving the eurozone to grow at its fastest pace in almost six years, while UK companies appear to have lost some pace.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/03/03/eurozone-economy-overtakes-uk-france-germany-accelerate/

From our currency guys...

The UK economy is showing signs of slowing. Throughout January and February we’ve seen disappointing economic data from both the services and manufacturing sectors as well as the economy more generally. And all of this before Article 50 is even triggered, which is now expected to happen on 15th March.


So who in the UK actually won anything?
 

oldgroaner

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Back on with some facts....

More great news this morning, what were people saying about the EU collapsing again??

Germany and France are experiencing an economic resurgence, driving the eurozone to grow at its fastest pace in almost six years, while UK companies appear to have lost some pace.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/03/03/eurozone-economy-overtakes-uk-france-germany-accelerate/

From our currency guys...

The UK economy is showing signs of slowing. Throughout January and February we’ve seen disappointing economic data from both the services and manufacturing sectors as well as the economy more generally. And all of this before Article 50 is even triggered, which is now expected to happen on 15th March.


So who in the UK actually won anything?
Incompetent Nation of the Year award?
 

oldgroaner

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I'd missed this. Are we going around the, "you are posting under a different name" thing again? They tried that particular discrediting tactic on me. An idiotic clown who acted as a fluffer for old groaner and old tom, called derv, accused me of posting under another name. He disappeared from the forum shortly afterwards.
No one can impersonate you, tillson, stay the way that you are.
After all you could be replaced with someone who lacks your style, and worse,can even raise a feasible and factual argument in favour of Brexit.
Now there's a thought, and it shows how unbiassed I really am, to entertain so wild a hope!
Better the Devil we know, do have a nice day, (while there isn't a shortage if you catch my drift.) :cool:
 
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oldgroaner

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From the Telegraph
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Post-Brexit special treatment for select industries will fail, warns IoD boss
The new head of the Institute of Directors (IoD) has warned the Government that policies giving special treatment to industries such as car manufacturing as part of its Brexit negotiations are doomed to fail.

Stephen Martin, who became director general of the IoD in February, said Theresa May’s administration must instead work for an “across the board” deal.

“It’s difficult to do a ‘pick winners’ strategy, the Government isn’t renowned for success in that, and you get bad outcomes from what we’ve seen in the past when there’s interference,” he said when asked about special Brexit assurances given to carmaker Nissan.

“Any arrangement should be across the board, and we’d encourage them to do something for the whole country and protect all industries.”

The Prime Minister is under pressure to extend those assurances to the rest of the UK car industry to help secure jobs at Vauxhall, which is poised for a takeover by Peugeot.

Thousands of jobs in the sector are at risk after Mrs May confirmed that she will remove Britain from the EU’s tariff-free single market.

And this man Voted FOR Brexit
You can't help wondering why he did that?
 
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oldtom

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Back on with some facts....

More great news this morning, what were people saying about the EU collapsing again??

Germany and France are experiencing an economic resurgence, driving the eurozone to grow at its fastest pace in almost six years, while UK companies appear to have lost some pace.
You really must stop this you know! It is just so unfair for you to keep hitting all the 'Leave' supporters with facts - it's not as if they do it to us, is it?:rolleyes:

Tom
 

Woosh

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Good point, like Bookmakers and Bankers , you mean?
brexit has already born some fruit.
Lessen the level of immigration and reduce imports.
House price increases less.
PSBR is less too.
 

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