Brexit, for once some facts.

[tillson]

This woman does not speak for me and I believe she is a disgrace to humanity.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/child-refugees-sentimental-pauline-latham-abandoned-lorry-kent-a7614536.html

Tom

How formidable.

Just out of interest, where does the Independent rank today? Is it a golden standard of truth and factually accurate information, or is it a Tory controlled mouthpiece intended to inspire fascists and fit only for the purpose of wiping a tramp's bottom? Aby particular newspaper's status seems to alter so frequently, according to you and OG, that it renders me wondering which papers you actually do believe in.

 

[Woosh]

OG reads the Express everyday and the Guardian sometimes.
Oldtom does not trust newspapers.

 

[oldgroaner]

.........non story, move along please nothing to see here.

So you approve of lies presented as truth?
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[oldgroaner]

Read All About It! Pollsters get more egg on face after yet another hopelessly inaccurate survey. Read All About It!

More a case of tillson "trumping"[emoji1] [emoji1]

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[oldgroaner]

Some very good advice from The Dalai Lama to all of you Remainers out there.

Remember that sometimes
not getting what you want
is a wonderful stroke of luck

I think that you Remainers are indeed about to witness something truly wonderful.

You've got the wrong group again[emoji1]

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[oldgroaner]

Some very good advice from The Dalai Lama to all of you Remainers out there.

Remember that sometimes
not getting what you want
is a wonderful stroke of luck

I think that you Remainers are indeed about to witness something truly wonderful.

Not good enough, for brexit to work we need more, a miracle in fact

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[oldgroaner]

How formidable.

Just out of interest, where does the Independent rank today? Is it a golden standard of truth and factually accurate information, or is it a Tory controlled mouthpiece intended to inspire fascists and fit only for the purpose of wiping a tramp's bottom? Aby particular newspaper's status seems to alter so frequently, according to you and OG, that it renders me wondering which papers you actually do believe in.

None

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[oldgroaner]

OG reads the Express everyday and the Guardian sometimes.
Oldtom does not trust newspapers.

Actually I read them all, as I love fiction

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[oldgroaner]

How formidable.

Just out of interest, where does the Independent rank today? Is it a golden standard of truth and factually accurate information, or is it a Tory controlled mouthpiece intended to inspire fascists and fit only for the purpose of wiping a tramp's bottom? Aby particular newspaper's status seems to alter so frequently, according to you and OG, that it renders me wondering which papers you actually do believe in.

What exactly do you mean by how formidable ?

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[Danidl]

Once again, 'The Canary' has a different and very interesting perspective on recent events. Obviously, mainstream news readers were denied this story for political reasons and only a snippet was carried in the media but it's certainly worth a read:

http://www.thecanary.co/2017/03/06/one-biggest-moments-uk-political-history-happened-last-thursday-almost-no-one-knows-editorial/

Tom

Commentators in Ireland have a different take on this surprise result....
1. The election came about because of a botched renewable energy scheme, whereby it became profitable to import woodpellets, burn them in empty buildings and heat the atmosphere , just for grants. The then first minister DUP had been associated with this grant and refused to stand aside when an investigation was undertaken . To put this in context this was £500million in a population of 1.5million. this put the DUP in the position of defending the indefensible.
2. A deliberately offensive simile was proffered to the Irish interested community, referring to feeding crocodiles. This mobilised a SF vote
3. The brexit argument had been strongly rejected in NI, and there are a number EU citizens, from eastern Europe living and working in the building and agricultural industries, these would not be natural sinn fein SF supporters
4. The LGBT reaction to stances by the DUP . These would not usually be viewed as SF supporters.

 

[tillson]

So you approve of lies presented as truth?
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As I keep repeating, nothing new, this kind of "news" can be found anywhere if you scrutinise sufficiently, and that includes within your left wing nuthouse. It's simply a case of where you choose to shine the search light.

So, with regards to your story, it's perfectly acceptable to dismiss it.

 

[tillson]

What exactly do you mean by how formidable ?

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Inspiring fear or respect through being impressively large, powerful, intense, or capable.

 

[flecc]

Inspiring fear or respect through being impressively large, powerful, intense, or capable.

This thread having covered just about everything else, I suppose it was only a matter of time before sexual innuendo would intrude.
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[tillson]

Not good enough, for brexit to work we need more, a miracle in fact

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Just kick back OG, Theresa's BREXIT milk is lapping at your toes. Pretty soon it will envelope your entire body, soothing with BREXIT goodness.

 

[KTM Bike Industries UK]

Well it looks like we're starting to reach that point when / where the pro Brexit groups have started to argue with themselves, which is logical seen as how they can't win an argument / debate with anyone pro remain

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-07/brexit-backers-urge-may-to-examine-rejoining-european-trade-body

oh, and yes...

http://www.efta.int/eea/policy-areas/persons

So remind me what the point of Brexit was??

 

[oldtom]

Here is another example of a despicable tory politician exhibiting the true party opinion on the disabled, this time at a local level in as much as she is a local councillor, rather than an MP. No doubt, she hopes this will grab the attention of tory central office as well as all the fascist scum in her neck of the woods, paving the way for her to stand for parliament when a general election comes along.

These creatures have no conscience and no shame.


http://www.thecanary.co/2017/03/06/tory-councillor-just-lived-regret-tweet-nhs-march-tweets/

Tom

 

[tillson]

Well it looks like we're starting to reach that point when / where the pro Brexit groups have started to argue with themselves, which is logical seen as how they can't win an argument / debate with anyone pro remain

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-07/brexit-backers-urge-may-to-examine-rejoining-european-trade-body

oh, and yes...

http://www.efta.int/eea/policy-areas/persons

So remind me what the point of Brexit was??

There is no requirement to win an argument with anyone who is pro-remain. The job is complete, the decision to leave the EU has be taken and the process of actually leaving will be ramping up very soon. Any further discussion with pro-remain is actually superfluous, because there nothing which they can now influence.

 

[KTM Bike Industries UK]

There is no requirement to win an argument with anyone who is pro-remain. The job is complete, the decision to leave the EU has be taken and the process of actually leaving will be ramping up very soon. Any further discussion with pro-remain is actually superfluous, because there nothing which they can now influence.

See, you would think the job is now to convince the 70+% of the country that didn't vote for this, that it is a good idea. Not sit back, be smug and think you've done the job. Its not complete... complete is making a success of it!! Delivering on the promises made.

If you / they can't convince people that this is a good plan, the influence is very much still intact. We've not left until we've left, and even once we've left we can simply apply to rejoin. So if you want to be out of the EU, the "leavers" do need to win some arguments, because if you keep loosing them, or hiding from them, your dream will fall apart before it even happens.

 

[tillson]

Here is another example of a despicable tory politician exhibiting the true party opinion on the disabled, this time at a local level in as much as she is a local councillor, rather than an MP. No doubt, she hopes this will grab the attention of tory central office as well as all the fascist scum in her neck of the woods, paving the way for her to stand for parliament when a general election comes along.

These creatures have no conscience and no shame.


http://www.thecanary.co/2017/03/06/tory-councillor-just-lived-regret-tweet-nhs-march-tweets/

Tom

How polarising.

 

[oldgroaner]

Once again, 'The Canary' has a different and very interesting perspective on recent events. Obviously, mainstream news readers were denied this story for political reasons and only a snippet was carried in the media but it's certainly worth a read:

http://www.thecanary.co/2017/03/06/one-biggest-moments-uk-political-history-happened-last-thursday-almost-no-one-knows-editorial/

Tom

That looks very much like the reunification of Ireland and and end to the UK as it stands.