Oh Dear, since when did the Conservatives ever have policy that favoured any group in the General Public? their policies are to bleed the public to give the loot to the rich.
Brexit, for once some facts.
- Thread starter flecc
- Start date
Really! That's an odd accusation to make as no-one, absolutely no-one, has ever furnished me with even one good reason to secede from the EU.
All I ever get in answer to the simple question about what the benefits would be is verbal diarrhoea from supercilious clowns in their pathetic attempts to justify their belief that we British can do much better without the other 27 nation states.
I really don't understand how they can possibly think that we might do well when we were struggling before the early adopters eventually relented and allowed us entry. In those days, we still had some British-owned industry and had the means to export goods made here without foreign owners raking off most of the profits and cheating the taxman.
Tom
I did actually, and he displayed all the classic symptoms of being as egotistical as one can expect from such a creature, with luck they will appoint someone to act as his handler.
Who in their right mind makes promises to improve the lives of his people then instead of doing that decides to build a great wall to keep out the very immigrants that do the actual work in the country, and waste the rest of the money on the already bloated military machine?
Ask yourself, apart from putting billions of Dollars into the Bank balances of his friends in the armaments industry, and allowing the environment to go to hell, what else will the lunatic do for an encore?
He is worth his weight in gold to his country , unfortunately that country is Russia.
didn't you actually dismiss a few reasons that I gave because I am on the side of the idiots?
Have people been telling you how to behave? well now why would that be, i wonder?OK. Well for now I'll stick with negligence, heresay and gossip.Just because it sounds more fun and I don't feel like playing by your rules. I think this is half of how come we voted Brexit and Trump got in - we're fed up of being told how to behave. So here's a few for starters. The changes in the climate are fine. Really. The rest is alarmist nonsense. Here's some more gossip on the lines - nobody cares anymore. About global warming. Its over. And the scientific community will pay big time in the future for the trust they betrayed. How am I doing? Hmmmm. Gossip? About the bears? Last I looked there was around 25,000 of the things. Which is up. They're fine. You can look it up if you like. Just let's get at the coal and get rid of the subsidies on solar and rock on with the driverless cars. Please.
I had already reached a decision that you didn't realise that you were making yourself look foolish, but thank you for that confirmation.
Productivity gain is a result of modern equipment, strong workforce and favourable conditions. Strong workforce attracts new factories, not the other way round.
Indeed a pity but he doesn't suffer fools gladly, not to worry I'm still here and my tolerance is boundless.
I pointed out the high percentage (I think about 45%) of people who need help in our society. Although we are a rich country, we have already difficulty to cover the needs of the 45% that don't work. Any government will need to make sure that the working population (the remaining 55%) can be as productive as possible.
In that context, we need to see if the EU has made it easier to move well paid jobs from the UK to other EU countries where wages are lower.
Fantastic! How does this work? there are two pertinent questions
- How do you know you have a Strong Workforce when they are unemployed
- How are New Factories attracted, is it something akin to Osmosis?
Ten commandments of Brexit
- Thou shalt not Question
- Thou shalt not plan
- Thou shalt not see, read or quote unwelcome facts
- Thou shalt see no good in the EU
- Thou shalt see no evil in the Government (ever)
- Thou shalt not Covet the NHS
- The only "Truth" is whatever the Government says it is.
- All sorrows past are the Fault of the EU
- All sorrows still to come are the fault of the EU
- Anything that goes wrong after Brexit not attributed to the EU is the "Will of the People"
Last edited:
Just one problem they have already said they won't do that and immigration will increase if the fancy takes them, haven't they?
Truly you are getting worse and cornier by the day, fortunately I'm sure you speak in jest.
I think I'm seeing who the troll is here....[/QUOTE]
Is that a confession?
You could be just as sarcastic about anything. In or out of the EU.
As I said before, brexit has many unknowns. We'll discover them and deal with them as a new relationship with the EU develops. Until then, there is bound to be uncertainty.
"Anything that goes wrong after Brexit not attributed to the EU is the "Will of the People", that I can agree with. 52% voted for it then we have to pay for it.
Maybe the future cost of brexit will make enough people change their mind and want us to rejoin but at the moment, it is unlikely. I don't see that happens, not in England.
... Actually I have had long practice of suffering fools gladly, but even I have limits
White Paper on the possible Future of the EU 27 states:
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-17-385_en.htm
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-17-385_en.htm
Thanks Shemozzle, very interesting set of views. This following sentence is a sobering reminder concerning our Brexit ambitions:
"By 2060, none of our Member States will account for even 1% of the world's population – a compelling reason for sticking together to achieve more."
.
Many Thanks Shemozzle, once again a very pertinent find!