Brexit, for once some facts.

flecc

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My brain agrees with you. My butt, having spent some time on the cold often old rolling stock of the underground at inhospitable hours in UK's more often than not grim weather greatly prefer the quiet air conditioned interior of an ev parked a few meters from the front door. So far my butt has made the executive decision and I suspect it may be that way with most punters.
I'm sure you are right that's the preference of most, but that preference can be overruled.

The high cost of an EV or the high running costs of an ICE car, road space charges, pollution zone charges, alternate day driving only can all rule out the option of car ownership for many.
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My brain agrees with you. My butt, having spent some time on the cold often old rolling stock of the underground at inhospitable hours in UK's more often than not grim weather greatly prefer the quiet air conditioned interior of an ev parked a few meters from the front door. So far my butt has made the executive decision and I suspect it may be that way with most punters.
It also depends on your age... As a youngster, the teadium of the hard seat and the cold and dreariness was palatable, in the company of mates, and was acceptable if it meant saving up for a home deposit but one becomes more intolerant of creature discomforts ..and in my case extremely intolerant of loud noises. The Sinclair Car had the right idea, but incredibly poor execution... An enclosed armchair with reasonable speed
 

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I found it good to hear Dominic Cummings savage criticism of Matt Hancock, it fitted well with my extremely low opinion of Hancock and his conduct and decisions thoughout the pandemic.
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Very difficult to know whether to believe Cummings - given what we have seen and heard of him. But so much of what he has said chimes with what some media have said, what some here have said, and what I have thought.

Need to be careful, though, as one of the best ways of distributing untruths is to make up a seemingly coherent and believable narrative - with just the bits you care about changed to your message.
 

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Very difficult to know whether to believe Cummings - given what we have seen and heard of him. But so much of what he has said chimes with what some media have said, what some here have said, and what I have thought.

Need to be careful, though, as one of the best ways of distributing untruths is to make up a seemingly coherent and believable narrative - with just the bits you care about changed to your message.
I'm speaking factually about the Hancock behaviour that everyone has seen. His "bullying the public approach" with ever increasing threats and unnecessary huge fines undermined the message the medics, other ministers and even the PM were trying to put across, which was to seek the public's co-operation.

It was exactly that approach by Hancock that led directly to the cases of the police in a number of forces exceeding and even abusing their powers. And I'm sure these were a major factor in the widespread early public rebellion against the rigidity and often unsuitability of the rules and those cases of foolish enforcement.

All of which indicated to me from over a year ago that Hancock was not fit for the job he'd been given, which is precisely Cummings opinion too.
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The Cummings Farce reminds of a scene from the film "Master and Commander" who picks up a mouldy ships biscuit with two beatles emerging and poses the question to his surgeon who is looking in the opposite direction
"How do you choose between the lesser of two weevils?" :cool:
 

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The Cummings Farce reminds of a scene from the film "Master and Commander" who picks up a mouldy ships biscuit with two beatles emerging and poses the question to his surgeon who is looking in the opposite direction
"How do you choose between the lesser of two weevils?" :cool:
It was a good line.!!!
What is Cummings trying to achieve? No doubt some of his ramblings are true but he hardly comes over as a reliable witness.
Can you imagine queue to inject Boris with Covid... Reckon a good few on here would pay to do that..
 
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I think scaling tech down to Honda 90 might prove difficult, but hang on, Danidl solved that with cryogenically stored compressed air for driving air motors..
I, ll see if my mate can build one.. He worked on Mad Max film car projects...
That cryo air approach could work well for such as the C90. If the French can get 200 km range from a small car on compressed non-cryo air, a C90 should go far and well on cryogenically compressed air, assuming India could set up the universal distribution of the cryo air.

Of course how green it would be for the whole fuel chain is another matter.
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It was a good line.!!!
What is Cummings trying to achieve? No doubt some of his ramblings are true but he hardly comes over as a reliable witness.
Can you imagine queue to inject Boris with Covid... Reckon a good few on here would pay to do that..
"We're going to need a bigger needle" springs to mind :oops:
 
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It was a good line.!!!
What is Cummings trying to achieve? No doubt some of his ramblings are true but he hardly comes over as a reliable witness.
Can you imagine queue to inject Boris with Covid... Reckon a good few on here would pay to do that..
I guess the point may be that we didnt need to. Boris has a curious habit of being shafted by allies, before Cummings govy. I'm sure it's what politics is all about, but can't help seeing an intriguing pattern.
 
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I see the Home Office are being compelled to allow access to their own personal data by people denied settled status.

My view is the previous High Court judgement looked wrong and today's appeal court ruling looks right.
 

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Makes you proud to be British... What with Bashir, BBC, Cummings, Policemen falsifying records, MPs fiddling everything they can...Euro vision!
Our World image must be great...
 
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Makes you proud to be British... What with Bashir, BBC, Cummings, Policemen falsifying records, MPs fiddling everything they can...Euro vision!
Our World image must be great...
We have loads of problems that's for sure but I still think I was extremely lucky to have been born and brought up here in the UK. I like most of us posting on this thread have done reasonably well out of the system here in the UK, own house, no debt, index linked pensions etc. Now some of that is down to my hard work, but the vast majority was down to being lucky what country I was born in and having parents that looked after me.

There are dozens of countries in the world that you have virtually no chance of getting out of absolute poverty no matter how bright you are or how hard you work. Health systems in these countries are non existent for the poor and life expectancy is lower than what it was in the UK over 100 years ago.

Our NHS system is far from perfect but there are billions of people in the world would love to have access to it. I think we just need to forget about once being a world power and having lots of influence in the world, we are now just a middle tier military entity being lead by a bunch of shysters but I still think its a good country to live in and there are far more countries in the world that are much worse.
 

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We have loads of problems that's for sure but I still think I was extremely lucky to have been born and brought up here in the UK. I like most of us posting on this thread have done reasonably well out of the system here in the UK, own house, no debt, index linked pensions etc. Now some of that is down to my hard work, but the vast majority was down to being lucky what country I was born in and having parents that looked after me.

There are dozens of countries in the world that you have virtually no chance of getting out of absolute poverty no matter how bright you are or how hard you work. Health systems in these countries are non existent for the poor and life expectancy is lower than what it was in the UK over 100 years ago.

Our NHS system is far from perfect but there are billions of people in the world would love to have access to it. I think we just need to forget about once being a world power and having lots of influence in the world, we are now just a middle tier military entity being lead by a bunch of shysters but I still think its a good country to live in and there are far more countries in the world that are much worse.
With far too many in significant positions who seem to wish it to be worse as a country to live in.
 

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Cummings reminds me of an ex wife who didn't get the settlement they hoped for then bad mouths the ex husband to anybody that will listen....even if it is true.
So what did Marina Claire Wheeler get in settlement? Given she hasn't said a whole lot in public about Johnson.
 
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