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If cases are starting to rise again, we shouldn’t be contemplating any further easements. The school returns have yet to feed into the statistics.

I had a communication from British Cycling the other day, they’ve negotiated permission for groups of 15 meeting up from the 29th.
I don't think the schools will be a particular problem, due to the precautions like routine testing, mask wearing by all and other measures.

Most head teachers very sensibly phased in the return over three days with a pair of well age separated years each day. They wouldn't cross communicate at two years separated ages like 11 and 14 on the Monday, 12 and 15 on the Tuesday, or 13 and 16 on the Wednesday, and it gave time to establish all the safety measures. And primary schools haven't proved much of a problem anywhere in the world since those ages are far less vulnerable.

It's the general public that concern me most now they've already let go, followed by organisations doing their own thing like British Cycling and Ryanair.
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Just easier to fit as a drop in replacement
Nonsense.. . Seriously nonsense. You still need water and electricity..and whereas a simple balanced flue gas geyser will do 22kw and a non ventilated one 11KW, standard electrical cable is only good for 5KW . You need a special spur beyond that. Whereas a heat pump with small storage will produce the high temperature from a 3kw source . Making an electric resistance heater boiler in the exact form factor as a gas boiler is trivial.. except of course no need for a flue, its powering it at an appropriate power output requires the effort. Using microwaves does nothing except add complexity and more points of failure.
 
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Nonsense.. . Seriously nonsense. You still need water and electricity..and whereas a simple balanced flue gas geyser will do 22kw and a non ventilated one 11KW, standard electrical cable is only good for 5KW . You need a special spur beyond that. Whereas a heat pump with small storage will produce the high temperature from a 3kw source .
I was amazed at figures from our heat pump. Thought all claims were exaggerations, but nope... Roughly we averaged 3.5 kW out for every Kw used... Air sourced as well.. Didn't have room for ground sourced. Really impressed but very expensive..
 

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Now this is very interesting research
The results showed that blood group A was associated with a higher risk for acquiring COVID-19 compared with non-A blood groups, whereas blood group O was associated with a lower risk for the infection compared with non-O blood groups.

This is simply an early study and not peer reviewed still i find it interesting.
Pity that I have no idea what my blood group is!!:cool:
I'm O! :)

Whilst there has been research over the years relating blood groups and disease, few have shown clear effects of significance. A lot have been very poor quality research and analysis. Not saying that about this paper - just about to read - but many claims have later been shot down.
 

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Nonsense.. . Seriously nonsense. You still need water and electricity..and whereas a simple balanced flue gas geyser will do 22kw and a non ventilated one 11KW, standard electrical cable is only good for 5KW . You need a special spur beyond that. Whereas a heat pump with small storage will produce the high temperature from a 3kw source . Making an electric resistance heater boiler in the exact form factor as a gas boiler is trivial.. except of course no need for a flue, its powering it at an appropriate power output requires the effort. Using microwaves does nothing except add complexity and more points of failure.
Sorry old chap but my statement was 100% correct
You can take out the existing boiler and only need to uprate the Electricity supply, not a good solution but far quicker and cheaper to do that rip the lot out and put in a different system
 

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I think they are doing everything possible to get him past 100, as they did with the Queen Mother and hope to with the present Queen. Taking away his driving licence was a good start! Having three royals living to over 100 would be great publicity for tourism.

I actually feel sorry for him, having far less control on when he's allowed to depart than we have.
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There is of course the point that it was easy to ease the Queen Mother past the magic 100 figure, as she had famously embalmed her internal organs with gin for many years!
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Priti Poisonous wants to have plain clothes police in public bars, to spy on Male behaviour towards women here is a still from their training course of the moment they reveal themselves to a miscreant.
 

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Sorry old chap but my statement was 100% correct
You can take out the existing boiler and only need to uprate the Electricity supply, not a good solution but far quicker and cheaper to do that rip the lot out and put in a different system
Yes but an electric resistance heater in exactly the same form, is exactly as effective and efficient and as speedy, and is much cheaper.. its just iron wire in a kapon sleeve. Using semiconductor derived microwaves , is a hell of a lot more difficult than heating a bit of wire.
 

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I was amazed at figures from our heat pump. Thought all claims were exaggerations, but nope... Roughly we averaged 3.5 kW out for every Kw used... Air sourced as well.. Didn't have room for ground sourced. Really impressed but very expensive..
If it were water, or deep ground ,it would be 4.5 but would have cost 4times as much. Putting in a ground source one only makes sense on a new build, when the earth movers on on site. All the new builds and estates locally are using air source ..and we were the very early adopters, and the reference site. I got mine in in 2008.
Having dodged the bullet on a wood pellet system. We had specified wood pellets, but during the outfitting, the builder got cold feet, and just installed an oil burner... In 2006/7.
So we have a mixture of underfloor heating, and radiators . I put in solar thermal ..well the builder mounted the panels on the roof before it was slated, and had installed a large triple feed tank. I did the rest. So we now have the heat pump for normal use, the oil comes on for a few hours per year, the solar panels on their own accord ,and if necessary the tank has an immersion.. only ever used if there are weeks of dull weather , and I want to ensure no legionnaires disease.
 

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Yes but an electric resistance heater in exactly the same form, is exactly as effective and efficient and as speedy, and is much cheaper.. its just iron wire in a kapon sleeve. Using semiconductor derived microwaves , is a hell of a lot more difficult than heating a bit of wire.
Except of course for the storage of latent heat in the pipework, radiators and reactor.
Research carried out during the 1970 into alternative heating systems ( we were the premier domestic boiler manufacturers at the time looked into the future applications, and energy costs. As a result the strategic decision was made not merely to no longer manufacture boilers and radiators, but to actually sell of the factory entirely, and concentrate on Sanitary ware.
In that they jumped the gun in terms of profitability by something like twenty years.
They still manufacture HEVAC products in America, though nowhere else as far as I know
 
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The BBC have come up with this
Covid: The inside story of the government's battle against the virus By Laura Kuenssberg

Laura Kuenssberg eh? Hmm!
How convenient she is to gaslight for them them with this

Laura is reframing the story.
“And it seems their decision was informed by everything that had gone wrong with trying to secure PPE - the collapse of the NHS's normal procurement process”.

The Govt will hide it’s corruption behind that phrase and Laura has seeded it for them.

Hardly news that she is a "Government asset" is it?

History has always been written by the victors, truth has no bearing on the process :D
 
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The BBC have come up with this
Covid: The inside story of the government's battle against the virus By Laura Kuenssberg

Laura Kuenssberg eh? Hmm!
How convenient she is to gaslight for them them with this

Laura is reframing the story.
“And it seems their decision was informed by everything that had gone wrong with trying to secure PPE - the collapse of the NHS's normal procurement process”.

The Govt will hide it’s corruption behind that phrase and Laura has seeded it for them.

Hardly news that she is a "Government asset" is it?

History has always been written by the victors, truth has no bearing on the process :D
To be fair OG Laura was one of few who put Johnson and Hancock on spot during briefings early on. She was very critical of Govt over PPE, lockdown and their general behaviour. Probably a positive from vaccine roll out has been some previously critical have become more generous in their assessments of Govt. LK isn't your normal easily bought journo. She appears to me to be very objective and I, d always thought over critical. It would have been a thankless task for anyone. I couldn't have done it, well, you, ve probably not realised yet, but I don't handle criticism very well. Now there's a shock.
Oh, and BTW. I might be wrong but I, d always thought "Gas lighting" was a phrase associated with convincing some close they were "not quite right", "unstable" "mentally ill". I thought it was from a film where Dirk Bogard tried to convince his wife and others that she was "mental"..
Perhaps it's taken on a new meaning and I, m missing something.???
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Can't quite see how Laura K could be gaslighting for the Government?
 
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the vaccine is giving the conservatives a 5-6 point lead in May election.
 

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That's just a recent poll, they talked about it at lunch time on BBC2.
 

oldgroaner

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To be fair OG Laura was one of few who put Johnson and Hancock on spot during briefings early on. She was very critical of Govt over PPE, lockdown and their general behaviour. Probably a positive from vaccine roll out has been some previously critical have become more generous in their assessments of Govt. LK isn't your normal easily bought journo. She appears to me to be very objective and I, d always thought over critical. It would have been a thankless task for anyone. I couldn't have done it, well, you, ve probably not realised yet, but I don't handle criticism very well. Now there's a shock.
Oh, and BTW. I might be wrong but I, d always thought "Gas lighting" was a phrase associated with convincing some close they were "not quite right", "unstable" "mentally ill". I thought it was from a film where Dirk Bogard tried to convince his wife and others that she was "mental"..
Perhaps it's taken on a new meaning and I, m missing something.???
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Can't quite see how Laura K could be gaslighting for the Government?
This is how
By pretending that the reason the Government put contracts out to their pals was the pretense that the normal procurement methods couldn't do it in time.
When in fact they were not consulted or employed
Look at "How slow it would have been" instead of "We stole public money and spaffed it to our friends and used an excuse to do so
In the hope that corruption can be justified in the public eye

As to your not handling criticism very well
If you hadn't mentioned it I would never have noticed! :D
 

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This is how
By pretending that the reason the Government put contracts out to their pals was the pretense that the normal procurement methods couldn't do it in time.
When in fact they were not consulted or employed
Look at "How slow it would have been" instead of "We stole public money and spaffed it to our friends and used an excuse to do so
In the hope that corruption can be justified in the public eye

As to your not handling criticism very well
If you hadn't mentioned it I would never have noticed! :D
But that's not "gaslighting" OG.
She'd be convincing us that Govt are bonkers or that BJ and Hancock belong in mental institutions, which might be case but don't think she is trying to convince anybody of it.
Besides, I don't believe what you are claiming. She has probably been most ardent critic of government throughout. She was actually in tears at one question session briefing, when pointing out to Johnson the harm lack of PPE has done.
I don't agree with much what she says but she is actually one of the more principaled of her type. I, m surprised she is on your list to criticise.
She is (I think) a staunch remainer and from her manner doesn't like any of our Government ministers. Thought that would endear her to you.
I suspect if she has expressed an opinion over contracts it's because she believes it. She isn't the type to modify her stance to earn admiration, especially from people she has little time for. I should check up on her past opinions, track record. She isn't what you are making her out to be. And, she certainly isn't "gaslighting".
 
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