Brexit, for once some facts.

[flecc]

A week is a long time if you need some food. Also, no advice (in what you quoted) what to do if you are NOT registered with a supermarket.

I hadn't quoted it, but it did advise to contact the council if not registered.

Not very reassuring when one's council is so incompetent that it's twice issued section 114 notices of bankruptcy and is currently on government support. Asking them for help is bit like asking a starving person for some food.
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[Danidl]

Not in my case, this was dentistry and both private and NHS treatments are usually carried out by the same dentists to the same standards. In fact NHS dentistry in the UK became a bad joke many years ago with such high NHS charges that many dentists, including mine, stopped doing any NHS work. NHS Band 1, examination, diagnosis, tooth polishing etc = £23.80. Band 2, a filling, tooth removal etc = £65.20. Band 3: crowns, bridges, dentures etc = £282.80.

Band 3 can be much cheaper than private for the most extensive work such as full dentures, but otherwise the bands not much different.



For me:

Pharmacy 1 used: Only one masked person allowed into shop so waiting on pavement outside commonplace and medical security as high as possible in the circumstances.

Pharmacy 2 used: Large counter in one side of a large supermarket aisle so shoppers and pharmacy patients mingling 14 hours a day. Zero medical security.

So inconsistent enough to be laughable.
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Our local pharmacy .. which I need to visit typically 3 times a week, mostly for my son, is very much your Pharmacy Model 1.
Dentistry in the UK is very low cost, compared with here.

 

[flecc]

Dentistry in the UK is very low cost, compared with here.

I'm sorry to learn that.

However our dentistry is supposed to be part of a free medical service paid for by National Insurance deductions and once was.

We still have the National Insurance deductions but much in the NHS is chargeable now, except for the young and old. From prescriptions at £9.15 per item on the form to Optical services charges similar to dentistry with any medical treatment vaguely cosmetic excluded, they often even have hospital car parking charges at costs that rival any in the private sector.

All accompanied by a service that is too often very substandard, such as with waiting lists that go beyond probable death.
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[oyster]

I'm sorry to learn that.

However our dentistry is supposed to be part of a free medical service paid for by National Insurance deductions and once was.

We still have the National Insurance deductions but much in the NHS is chargeable now, except for the young and old. From prescriptions at £9.15 per item on the form to Optical services charges similar to dentistry with any medical treatment vaguely cosmetic excluded, they often even have hospital car parking charges at costs that rival any in the private sector.

All accompanied by a service that is too often very substandard, such as with waiting lists that go beyond probable death.
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Prescription charges only apply in England!

 

[flecc]

Prescription charges only apply in England!

But England is the vast majority of the NHS.
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[oldgroaner]

The new owners of Vauxhall are hoping that the Brexit Spaffing season applies to them
Vauxhall Ellesmere Port plant's future depends on 'Government support', Stellantis group chief says Firm hopes Government will 'behave in the interest of the UK economy'

Meaning of course their economy how many more lame ducks will be have to stump up to subsidise?
Pathetic

 

[oyster]

But England is the vast majority of the NHS.
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No. NHS England is the largest of the four NHS organisations in the UK and is all too often referred to as "the NHS". There is no "NHS UK". We have NHS Wales/GIG which is devolved. We have Public Health Wales. (And so on for S & NI.)

 

[oldgroaner]

I hadn't quoted it, but it did advise to contact the council if not registered.

Not very reassuring when one's council is so incompetent that it's twice issued section 114 notices of bankruptcy and is currently on government support. Asking them for help is bit like asking a starving person for some food.
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Our local Nick can beat that, it's been robbed twice while it was in full use!

 

[flecc]

No. NHS England is the largest of the four NHS organisations in the UK and is all too often referred to as "the NHS". There is no "NHS UK". We have NHS Wales/GIG which is devolved. We have Public Health Wales. (And so on for S & NI.)

But that amounts to a play on words. The English NHS is by far the largest.
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[POLLY]

CNBC are reporting that the FDA in America is about to approve the J&J single dose vaccine. They said it has an overall efficacy of 66% and was virtually 100% effective in stopping hospitalizations.

I think these are similar figures to the AZ vaccine, and if I remember correctly the UK have bought quite a lot of this vaccine. I like the idea of just having a single jab, but I think it might be several months before we get hold of significant amounts of it provided our authorities approve it too.

COVID-19 is 100% Bullcrap

 

[POLLY]

I think we need to be careful that we believe things that BJ says, the head of our approval agency said that as we were still in the transition period we actually used EU rules to approve the Pfizer and AZ vaccines and so Brexit did not make any difference to what we were allowed to do.

It was open to any other country in the EU to do exactly the same thing as we did it would not be against the rules and the EU would not be able to fine them or institute any other kind of punishment.

Now it is difficult to say if we had remained in the EU would we have gone out on our own when it comes to purchasing vaccines, I suspect because we have always been a slightly semi-detached member of the EU, we would have followed a twin track approach. We would have been part of the EU purchasing scheme but we might well have done some separate deals too.

Word is that many of the larger countries in the EU were on the point of doing their own deals and Ursula Von Der Leyen begged them not to go it alone as it could lead to the break up of the EU.

I agree with you though that the EU have not done a great job when it comes to the vaccines and the brexitiers have gained an easy win out of all this. People aren't going to look into the detail of it all they are just going to believe the brexitiers that its only because we have left the EU that we have done so well.

The entire brexit debate was not about detail and nuance it was all about emotion, sound bites and lies, this all works extremely well, just look how well Trump did for years. Almost every day I am hearing of small businesses having massive difficulties trying to come to terms with brexit. Hardly any of this is reported in the brexit supporting news papers.

COVID-19 is 100% Bullcrap

 

[POLLY]

"If the whole EU had thrown its entire resources into vaccine development and distribution, we might ALL have been better off by now." ..
But it did!. Look at where the Pfizer Vaccine comes from, where it is made,and who funded Biontech. Look at the many other vaccine candidates which were not as successful, and in particular look at the AZ manufacturing pathways and logistics ..and also the personnel involved in the Oxford Jenner Laboratory.

COVID-19 is 100% FAKE Bullcrap

 

[POLLY]

At 11:20 this morning my wife was due to visit the Consultant regarding further treatment for her cluster headaches.
And so yesterday I received what has now become the standard pre screening call enquiring at length whether or not either of us had been in contact with anyone who could have had the disease, and that we would be temperature tested and given a mask when we arrived at the Hospital.
Half an hour later the Hospital rang back and asked would a telephone consultation be OK as the Doctor has just tested positive for Covid 19!
Naturally I said fine, no problem, and pondered how while it was certainly not good news for him, the timing could not have been better for us!
We had the consultation this morning and obviously I passed on my best wishes for a positive outcome for him and asked could the test be inaccurate?
"I thought of that, had both tests and it was still positive, at the moment I feel no effects, thankfully, see you soon."

How do you test positive for something that doesn't exist!

 

[oyster]

Interesting suggestion as to why masks work:

February 23, 2021

Humidity from masks may lessen severity of COVID-19
At a Glance

• Face masks substantially increase the humidity of the air that the mask-wearer breathes in, which the researchers propose could help combat SARS-CoV-2 infection.
• The findings may help explain why wearing masks has been linked to lower disease severity in people with COVID-19.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/humidity-masks-may-lessen-severity-covid-19

 

[POLLY]

Interesting suggestion as to why masks work:

February 23, 2021

Humidity from masks may lessen severity of COVID-19
At a Glance

• Face masks substantially increase the humidity of the air that the mask-wearer breathes in, which the researchers propose could help combat SARS-CoV-2 infection.
• The findings may help explain why wearing masks has been linked to lower disease severity in people with COVID-19.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/humidity-masks-may-lessen-severity-covid-19

Brainwashing Bullshite

 

[Danidl]

How do you test positive for something that doesn't exist!

Like you and IQ?.

 

[POLLY]

Like you and IQ?.

Its not me that's DUMB

 

[jonathan.agnew]

How do you test positive for something that doesn't exist!

Semiseriously, howsabout becoming a porter or cleaner at the local hospital for a we? Somerset maughan's quote about 'death being a dull and dreary affair' and advice 'to have nothing to do with it' will make much sense

 

[oldgroaner]

Amazing how fickle fate can be

Oh Dear what can the matter be
The Oven ready deal
Ended up in the lavatory

 

[oldgroaner]

COVID-19 is 100% FAKE Bullcrap

Fake? is that a new local variant?