Brexit, for once some facts.

oyster

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One shot versus Two shot

So the Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) vaccine is a one-shot product. Whereas, as we know all too well, Pfizer/BioNTech and AstraZeneca are two-shot products.

At what point does the decision get made? "I say, old chap, shall we make a one-shot vaccine?" "Well, me old mucker, maybe we should choose a two-shot job?"

That is, is it by original design or as after analysis of testing and trialling? Is it inherent in the choice of approach?

From a distribution point of view, why would anyone consider two-shot products if they are avoidable?
 

oldgroaner

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One shot versus Two shot

So the Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) vaccine is a one-shot product. Whereas, as we know all too well, Pfizer/BioNTech and AstraZeneca are two-shot products.

At what point does the decision get made? "I say, old chap, shall we make a one-shot vaccine?" "Well, me old mucker, maybe we should choose a two-shot job?"

That is, is it by original design or as after analysis of testing and trialling? Is it inherent in the choice of approach?

From a distribution point of view, why would anyone consider two-shot products if they are avoidable?
More profitable?
And it saves finishing the job properly when some idiot politicians are badgering you to reduce that casualties they have caused by incompetence over late decisions
And of course it sells a lot of special fridges too
 
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oldgroaner

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It must be a lot warmer down South
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Police warn 'dogging' event planned for this weekend is 'not essential travel'
Essex Police have issued a statement saying a social gathering is not 'essential travel' and would be against Covid lockdown rules - officers will be patrolling Canve

Gotta laugh :cool:
 

oyster

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More profitable?
And it saves finishing the job properly when some idiot politicians are badgering you to reduce that casualties they have caused by incompetence over late decisions
And of course it sells a lot of special fridges too
I did wonder - but why have J&J gone down the one-shot route? Doesn't that mean less profitable?
 
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Nev

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My explanation? they got the ordering sequence wrong causing delays because they underestimated the efficiency of the people who are rolling out the vaccine , and your explanation?
Rumours circulating in the NHS in Wales but not publicly confirmed is that due to a much higher up take of the vaccine than originally expected (over 90% in some age groups) and the speed at which the vaccine has been rolled out, they are having to keep a lot more in storage so that people can have their second jabs.
 
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oyster

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It must be a lot warmer down South
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Police warn 'dogging' event planned for this weekend is 'not essential travel'
Essex Police have issued a statement saying a social gathering is not 'essential travel' and would be against Covid lockdown rules - officers will be patrolling Canve

Gotta laugh :cool:
I don't think it was warmer in Paisley, though!

Coronavirus Scotland: Over 50 Scots caught flouting Covid lockdown rules at notorious Paisley dogging hotspot

  • 6 Feb 2021, 18:33
  • Updated: 6 Feb 2021, 19:23
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/6643339/scots-flouting-rules-paisley-dogging-hotspot/

Kind of amazing where the Scottish Sun does shine...
 
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POLLY

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Rumours circulating in the NHS in Wales but not publicly confirmed is that due to a much higher up take of the vaccine than originally expected (over 90% in some age groups) and the speed at which the vaccine has been rolled out, they are having to keep a lot more in storage so that people can have their second jabs.
More Brainwashing Bullcrap
 

flecc

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More Brainwashing Bullcrap
"Coronavirus cases have plummeted across England since lockdown was imposed, from 557.9 cases per 100,000 on December 31 to 148.8 in the seven days to February 11.

However, there are several areas around Chesterfield where rates have increased – and this is causing concern for the county’s public health teams and politicians.
Chesterfield MP Toby Perkins said it was ‘disappointing’ rates were higher than before lockdown in some areas – and claimed this was probably due to the Government’s relaxation of restrictions over Christmas."


See what you've done POLLY, you naughty boy !
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oldgroaner

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It's amazing how truly dim senior management in this country truly are
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EU engaged in ‘very serious escalation’ over UK financial services, says Bank of England governor

Andrew Bailey tells Treasury Select Committee the EU seems to want to take derivatives clearing out of London and says it’s ‘something we would have to resist very firmly’

Who would think that the EU would try to outcompete us?
Obviously not this chump
 

oldgroaner

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POLLY

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"Coronavirus cases have plummeted across England since lockdown was imposed, from 557.9 cases per 100,000 on December 31 to 148.8 in the seven days to February 11.

However, there are several areas around Chesterfield where rates have increased – and this is causing concern for the county’s public health teams and politicians.
Chesterfield MP Toby Perkins said it was ‘disappointing’ rates were higher than before lockdown in some areas – and claimed this was probably due to the Government’s relaxation of restrictions over Christmas."


See what you've done POLLY, you naughty boy !
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"Coronavirus cases have plummeted across England since lockdown was imposed, from 557.9 cases per 100,000 on December 31 to 148.8 in the seven days to February 11.

However, there are several areas around Chesterfield where rates have increased – and this is causing concern for the county’s public health teams and politicians.
Chesterfield MP Toby Perkins said it was ‘disappointing’ rates were higher than before lockdown in some areas – and claimed this was probably due to the Government’s relaxation of restrictions over Christmas."


See what you've done POLLY, you naughty boy !
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Even more Brainwashing Bullcrap
 

oldgroaner

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Rumours circulating in the NHS in Wales but not publicly confirmed is that due to a much higher up take of the vaccine than originally expected (over 90% in some age groups) and the speed at which the vaccine has been rolled out, they are having to keep a lot more in storage so that people can have their second jabs.
So why the hell are the second jabs not being given at the proper interval??
I think I'll let Polly answer that ;)
 

oldgroaner

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"Coronavirus cases have plummeted across England since lockdown was imposed, from 557.9 cases per 100,000 on December 31 to 148.8 in the seven days to February 11.

However, there are several areas around Chesterfield where rates have increased – and this is causing concern for the county’s public health teams and politicians.
Chesterfield MP Toby Perkins said it was ‘disappointing’ rates were higher than before lockdown in some areas – and claimed this was probably due to the Government’s relaxation of restrictions over Christmas."


See what you've done POLLY, you naughty boy !
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It's more likely the Police forgot to raid the local Dogging spots :D
 
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sjpt

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Many are rightly asking for facts instead of the inane propaganda that both sides are issuing in the EU dabate.
If you'd known what would come of it, would you have started this thread?
 

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