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Jesus H Christ

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Does anyone else think the cost of quarantine is a bit steep? £1700 for 10 nights in a Travel Lodge sounds rich to me.

I suppose it’s another case of people not being able to stop themselves from profiting out of the pandemic.
 

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Does anyone else think the cost of quarantine is a bit steep? £1700 for 10 nights in a Travel Lodge sounds rich to me.

I suppose it’s another case of people not being able to stop themselves from profiting out of the pandemic.
Food - with "room service" even if that is just leaving a tray outside the room. Extra hotel cleaning. Enhanced security. Possibly not allowed to charge for broadband (not sure whether they usually do so). And is that per person? Or per room?

Agreed - I wouldn't be very happy being charged that much.
 

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You can do better than repeating my insult OG. Very poor. Try to be original. Even your insults are copied.
That wasn't an insult, simply pointing out what you are, you never miss a chance to indulge in spiteful remarks aimed at me personally, do you?
 

oldgroaner

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Food - with "room service" even if that is just leaving a tray outside the room. Extra hotel cleaning. Enhanced security. Possibly not allowed to charge for broadband (not sure whether they usually do so). And is that per person? Or per room?

Agreed - I wouldn't be very happy being charged that much.
According the Travelodge website
"If you’re planning a night away and don’t want to spend a fortune, our saver rate is for you. Search and pay in advance for great value starting from £29. Our saver rate rooms are non-refundable, non transferable, but can be amended for a £5.00 amendment fee.

Nice little earner eh?
 
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flecc

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Does anyone else think the cost of quarantine is a bit steep? £1700 for 10 nights in a Travel Lodge sounds rich to me.
I think it's reasonable.

Firstly this is London with much higher hotel cost and charges. I've been quoted £130 a night long ago in such as Premier Inns which are far from special, probably much higher now.

Then there's the extras like room service of food, laundry, covid tests, deep cleaning after each stay, security patrols on all floors, and the included government guarded transport from the airport to the hotel.

And having possibly Covid infected people staying won't exactly encourage others to stay there, so loss of business is possible.
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flecc

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According the Travelodge website
"If you’re planning a night away and don’t want to spend a fortune, our saver rate is for you. Search and pay in advance for great value starting from £29. Our saver rate rooms are non-refundable, non transferable, but can be amended for a £5.00 amendment fee.
Not in London.
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flecc

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Good news, but early.. Our resident hypocrite will find something negative no doubt.
Rather more sobering.
Cheer up, I've found someone with lots of faith in the first vaccine dose,

You might remember me posting this back in January:

"Early last year I was planning to get some dental treatment but the arrival of covid scuppered that hope since it appeared no dentist would consider a high risk person in their 80s for non emergency treatment. Therefore the arrival of a vaccine even in a two stage 21 days was welcome since it could convince a dentist I'm safe enough to treat. That is my sole interest in getting vaccinated that way with both doses."

Well my usual dentist has on the strength of me getting the first jab given me an appointment for the 22nd February after only a one year wait, so he seems to think the first dose has magical protection for dentists !

I also included this in that same post:

"I am not in the least interested in rushing to get the protection against Covid that any vaccines offer or even getting it at all. That's because my circumstances mean I am at very low risk from infection but quite high risk of dying soon anyway."

So I'm now not interested in rushing to a second jab and would rather wait until there's one that deals with the difficult variants or just go without. That's because my risk of infection now is so much lower compared with last year when I didn't catch it anyway.
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flecc

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there are lots of other places than London were people arrived in the country and hotels are a lot cheaper
I wouldn't say lots, the overwhelming majority fly into Heathrow, so in fixing a standard charge those London costs will dominate.

Remember we are only speaking of the Red List Countries and regional airports never see flights from most of them.
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Mainly because as a tiny, poor nation, it's so much easier to do.

Tiny means few residents to deal with, few visiting from elsewhere in the world and less area to cover.

Poor means they don't have large numbers of their own citizens flying back from holidays or business in countries all over the world.

And most of Bhutan's population are peasants who don't go anywhere and grow what they eat.
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Not again surely?
Boris talks about invoking article 16 yet again
Contrast that if you can with the abject apology by UVDL this morning in the EU Parliament for an error in a draft document which was corrected within 3 hours. An error which has been alluded to , but never saw the light of day. And even more contrast that with the extremely unapologetic UVDL regarding the need to ensure that full protocols were carried out before ,and I quote" active biological substances are injected into healthy human beings". She did apologize for the delays in the production of vaccines. Note as of today, the EU has administered vaccines to an equivalent of 30% of the UKs population...but of course as a fraction of the EU it is a lot smaller.
 

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This obviously means the government will launch another Eat Out scheme in the next few weeks...

EAT OUT TO HELP OUT HAD ‘LIMITED EFFECT’ ON BUSINESS AND JOBS

People eating out rose 5-6% during August, but effect was short-lived

The government’s “Eat Out to Help Out” (EOTHO) scheme had a limited effect on the UK’s restaurants and cafes – with visitor numbers rising only during the scheme and a similarly temporary effect on job vacancies in hospitality, according to new research from the London School of Economics and Political Science.
https://cep.lse.ac.uk/textonly/_new2014/news/releases/2021_02_10_i394.pdf
 

Jesus H Christ

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Good news from the World Health Organisation (WHO). They are endorsing the AZ vaccine for use in all countries across all age groups. They go further and say the extended gab between vaccination doses makes the vaccine more effective.

The WHO must be those Tory Fan Boys we keep hearing about.
 
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