Brexit, for once some facts.

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Looking on ebay today (for non-essential socks; shops shut) I noticed a huge number of items (particularly the cheaper ones, probably the ones from the middle east?) are now marked '+ 20% VAT will apply'

I'm not sure how it is applied and whether it is actually any different than it would have been yesterday, or whether ebay have just been requested to put that on all adverts from abroad, or ...??? It doesn't seem to have the equivalent on ebike batteries (eg from China), except one shipped from UK. They don't seem to mention VAT in the listings themselves, only in the search summary.

Does anyone here know the rules? (Does anyone anywhere know the rules?)
that's something I have complained about for a while. It's now corrected at long last and it's thanks to the EU to make that happen.
Ebay/Amazon are now responsible to collect VAT on goods sold on their website, so everyone now pays VAT.
If the supplier is not VAT registered, typically Chinese vendors shipping from Hong Kong or China, Ebay adds VAT to their items.
I have to do same since forever.
So now we have a level competition.
 

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We need a viable opposition, that's not going to jump out of the mess we call Labour for a long time.
Sunak has flashy teeth but that's about it.
I bet you won't find that from the front bench of the current government nor the ERG.
So Starmer of more of the same, slow decline.
 

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that's something I have complained about for a while. It's now corrected at long last and it's thanks to the EU to make that happen.
Ebay/Amazon are now responsible to collect VAT on goods sold on their website, so everyone now pays VAT.
If the supplier is not VAT registered, typically Chinese vendors shipping from Hong Kong or China, Ebay adds VAT to their items.
I have to do same since forever.
So now we have a level competition.
I don’t think it would hurt to slap 20 - 30% on all Amazon & Ebay sales during lockdown / closure of non-essential retail due to Coronavirus. These sorts of business have been making huge profits on the back of all this death, destruction & misery.
 

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I don’t think it would hurt to slap 20 - 30% on all Amazon & Ebay sales during lockdown / closure of non-essential retail due to Coronavirus. These sorts of business have been making huge profits on the back of all this death, destruction & misery.
Speaking of that how have the Hedge Funds made out? has anyone any news?
All I have is this
Crispin Odey steps back from running hedge fund firm
LONDON Crispin Odey is to step back from running his London-based hedge fund firm as part of an overhaul of the group and instead focus on managing money for clients, the firm said on Tuesday.

Reuters
 
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oldgroaner

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How dare you!
It's the way you tell'em that gives you away, you know..

You can take the dog out of the fight
But you can't take the fight out of the Dog

It's that exquisitely excruciating turn of phrase

"Artistic, witty and Pithy
Indeed the very model
of a Pith Artist"

Top man :cool:
 

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From the man who famously sank Northern Rock like a lead balloon


Has anyone a definitions as to what this Britain is? is it animal, vegetable, mineral, or some fat cat Tory?
In a country where Engineers are treated so badly and their ideas squandered or watered down, this is simply pitiful
"Unleash the British Tiger?" what happened to the British Lion then?
Or more recently Jackass? the man who stated that any business that is going under, like a bank for instance, can't stand the heat of the competition so should be allowed to fail. then he had to go cap in hand when his bank failed.

Spaff him a few Millions Boris and a peerage cut price as usual, he's your kind after all
 
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Very good review in unherd.(dont read it OG it also talks about UK bounce back post Covid.)
(ie OECD agreeing with PwC in that UK is predicted to see higher growth than EU of 4% in 2021)
Some great unbiased articles.
 
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Whatever Gavin Williamson has got on Boris, it must be extremely serious, I don't see how else he is still in post. He must be getting dizzy with all the U turns he has to keep doing.
All primary schools in London to remain closed after U-turn | Schools | The Guardian
Had he left schools open folk would be grumbling at him for that. If he changes his mind, he, s made a U turn. If he doesn't he, s set in his ways. He, s done right. All country should be in lockdown.
 

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that's something I have complained about for a while. It's now corrected at long last and it's thanks to the EU to make that happen.
Ebay/Amazon are now responsible to collect VAT on goods sold on their website, so everyone now pays VAT.
If the supplier is not VAT registered, typically Chinese vendors shipping from Hong Kong or China, Ebay adds VAT to their items.
I have to do same since forever.
So now we have a level competition.
Yes, but...


Whatever Gavin Williamson has got on Boris, it must be extremely serious, I don't see how else he is still in post. He must be getting dizzy with all the U turns he has to keep doing.
All primary schools in London to remain closed after U-turn | Schools | The Guardian
Gavin UUilliamson?
 
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There were 517,148 deaths registered in England and 33,469 in Wales during the first 11 months (January to November) of 2020.



the death rate is normal there is no pandemic and if thats the case based on deaths this year and going back 18 years there has been one every year yet nothing was done.

40 country's have had sent in foi requests to provide the date on a isolated cov19 strain none of them can provide any not even the hsa or cdc can provide any such data.


the avg age of death is 82

the death rate with no underlining health issues under 65 is under 400

the death rate according to the ons is the same as the flue also a corona virus there is no massive spike in the mortality rate for the uk in 2020 why don't msm report this fact.

if you can not isolate a virus how can you make a cure to it as never been done b4 why now in over 90 years since it was first discovered in the 1930s

how can they tell if it has mutated if they can not isolate it in the first place.

why does the flu jab formula change every year because it mutates yet this magic cure can also deal with this is bs they have no data or proof of anything.

ons data shows the most ppl died in lock downs they do not work you can not control any virus you can only control ppl it is not working.

4 million gas masks were given out in ww2 where is mine ?

the nhs is in the shite every year whats new tory cuts helps with that for the last ten years.

if you removed cov19 from the ons data you could not tell the difference if you had to pick a number from the last 18 years worth.

this is nothing more than there political agenda using lock downs to bankrupt ppls assets on purpose they do not give a shite about anyone's lives it is a game to them that they get paid for and just walk away at the end of it all is a fkn joke.

and because of this the lock downs will not end this year it will get worse to bankrupt even more to the point the corporations will sweep in and buy it all at bargain prices you just wait and see.

there end game is total control same as china over the population they do not give a crap about anyone's life just look at the benefits system the dwp kill 50k per year and that's fine.
 
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oldgroaner

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Very good review in unherd.(dont read it OG it also talks about UK bounce back post Covid.)
(ie OECD agreeing with PwC in that UK is predicted to see higher growth than EU of 4% in 2021)
Some great unbiased articles.
Some great unbiased articles. paid for by the usual suspects?
I suggest you look at the bios of the contributors, all right wingers and Boris sycophants.....all there if you check
:D :D :D :D :D
 
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oldgroaner

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There were 517,148 deaths registered in England and 33,469 in Wales during the first 11 months (January to November) of 2020.



the death rate is normal there is no pandemic and if thats the case based on deaths this year and going back 18 years there has been one every year yet nothing was done.

40 country's have had sent in foi requests to provide the date on a isolated cov19 strain none of them can provide any not even the hsa or cdc can provide any such data.


the avg age of death is 82

the death rate with no underlining health issues under 65 is under 400

the death rate according to the ons is the same as the flue also a corona virus there is no massive spike in the mortality rate for the uk in 2020 why don't msm report this fact.

if you can not isolate a virus how can you make a cure to it as never been done b4 why now in over 90 years since it was first discovered in the 1930s

how can they tell if it has mutated if they can not isolate it in the first place.

why does the flu jab formula change every year because it mutates yet this magic cure can also deal with this is bs they have no data or proof of anything.

ons data shows the most ppl died in lock downs they do not work you can not control any virus you can only control ppl it is not working.

4 million gas masks were given out in ww2 where is mine ?

the nhs is in the shite every year whats new tory cuts helps with that for the last ten years.

if you removed cov19 from the ons data you could not tell the difference if you had to pick a number from the last 18 years worth.

this is nothing more than there political agenda using lock downs to bankrupt ppls assets on purpose they do not give a shite about anyone's lives it is a game to them that they get paid for and just walk away at the end of it all is a fkn joke.

and because of this the lock downs will not end this year it will get worse to bankrupt even more to the point the corporations will sweep in and buy it all at bargain prices you just wait and see.

there end game is total control same as china over the population they do not give a crap about anyone's life just look at the benefits system the dwp kill 50k per year and that's fine.
Feel better now? contributions from a Street Philosopher are always a treat, if I may observe, however, there is a small problem.
The parts that were good weren't original
alas the parts that were original weren't good.

Reminded me of the Time when Les Dawson played piano out of tune and remarked "The notes are all in there" before playing a melody perfectly.

Have another go, there's a good chap
That post was like watching your Mother in Law going over a cliff in your new car, metaphorically speaking.
:cool:
ps: I still have my 1940's gas mask and carboard box on a string, you could borrow it if you like, just needs dusting
 
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Jesus H Christ

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There were 517,148 deaths registered in England and 33,469 in Wales during the first 11 months (January to November) of 2020.



the death rate is normal there is no pandemic and if thats the case based on deaths this year and going back 18 years there has been one every year yet nothing was done.

40 country's have had sent in foi requests to provide the date on a isolated cov19 strain none of them can provide any not even the hsa or cdc can provide any such data.


the avg age of death is 82

the death rate with no underlining health issues under 65 is under 400

the death rate according to the ons is the same as the flue also a corona virus there is no massive spike in the mortality rate for the uk in 2020 why don't msm report this fact.

if you can not isolate a virus how can you make a cure to it as never been done b4 why now in over 90 years since it was first discovered in the 1930s

how can they tell if it has mutated if they can not isolate it in the first place.

why does the flu jab formula change every year because it mutates yet this magic cure can also deal with this is bs they have no data or proof of anything.

ons data shows the most ppl died in lock downs they do not work you can not control any virus you can only control ppl it is not working.

4 million gas masks were given out in ww2 where is mine ?

the nhs is in the shite every year whats new tory cuts helps with that for the last ten years.

if you removed cov19 from the ons data you could not tell the difference if you had to pick a number from the last 18 years worth.

this is nothing more than there political agenda using lock downs to bankrupt ppls assets on purpose they do not give a shite about anyone's lives it is a game to them that they get paid for and just walk away at the end of it all is a fkn joke.

and because of this the lock downs will not end this year it will get worse to bankrupt even more to the point the corporations will sweep in and buy it all at bargain prices you just wait and see.

there end game is total control same as china over the population they do not give a crap about anyone's life just look at the benefits system the dwp kill 50k per year and that's fine.
Someone has been believing what they read on Facetube again, haven’t they. If you try hard enough you will be able to convince yourself that the Queen is a Vauxhall Viva in disguise.

Here‘s a tip: most of what you read on social media isn’t true. It’s written by bell ends and is intended to fool people. Don’t let them make a fool out of you. Just take a look at the conditions inside hospitals.
 
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oldgroaner

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Someone has been believing what they read on Facetube again, haven’t they. If you try hard enough you will be able to convince yourself that the Queen is a Vauxhall Viva in disguise.

Here‘s a tip: most of what you read on social media isn’t true. It’s written by bell ends and is intended to fool people. Don’t let them make a fool out of you. Just take a look at the conditions inside hospitals.
Now look what you've done!!

Careless ideas cost lives you know
Lord knows how long before

"The Queen is a Vauxhall Viva in disguise"
"This is true and is proved by the fact she's never seen in the same room with one at the same time."
goes Viral , among the dangerously intellectual Street Philosophers
 

Jesus H Christ

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There were 517,148 deaths registered in England and 33,469 in Wales during the first 11 months (January to November) of 2020.



the death rate is normal there is no pandemic and if thats the case based on deaths this year and going back 18 years there has been one every year yet nothing was done.

40 country's have had sent in foi requests to provide the date on a isolated cov19 strain none of them can provide any not even the hsa or cdc can provide any such data.


the avg age of death is 82

the death rate with no underlining health issues under 65 is under 400

the death rate according to the ons is the same as the flue also a corona virus there is no massive spike in the mortality rate for the uk in 2020 why don't msm report this fact.

if you can not isolate a virus how can you make a cure to it as never been done b4 why now in over 90 years since it was first discovered in the 1930s

how can they tell if it has mutated if they can not isolate it in the first place.

why does the flu jab formula change every year because it mutates yet this magic cure can also deal with this is bs they have no data or proof of anything.

ons data shows the most ppl died in lock downs they do not work you can not control any virus you can only control ppl it is not working.

4 million gas masks were given out in ww2 where is mine ?

the nhs is in the shite every year whats new tory cuts helps with that for the last ten years.

if you removed cov19 from the ons data you could not tell the difference if you had to pick a number from the last 18 years worth.

this is nothing more than there political agenda using lock downs to bankrupt ppls assets on purpose they do not give a shite about anyone's lives it is a game to them that they get paid for and just walk away at the end of it all is a fkn joke.

and because of this the lock downs will not end this year it will get worse to bankrupt even more to the point the corporations will sweep in and buy it all at bargain prices you just wait and see.

there end game is total control same as china over the population they do not give a crap about anyone's life just look at the benefits system the dwp kill 50k per year and that's fine.
 
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