I, m glad to see you have developed a sense of irony in my absence. Well done. Very witty.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Are you certain you know what you are talking about?Aren`t thinking too straight today are we ?? !!
Don`t let it get to you, just go with the flow
That posts makes even less sense than yours usually do.
Go with what flow?
You don't really believe what the government is telling you do you?
We said exactly what would happen years ago and it has.
The EU has sold you and me a deal that they not we will profit by, why do you think they were being to nice about it, and our clown was prancing about boasting how wonderful he is?
He may even one day read it, but that isn't likely, even less that he would understand it
When we have access to the documents I'll post the link, when like me you have read and understood the content, we should discuss it again.
Aha here is the provisional documentation, enjoy!
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/886010/DRAFT_UK-EU_Comprehensive_Free_Trade_Agreement.pdf
It's only 290 pages, shouldn't take you long
Then we can tackle the bigger actual FTA docs, yes?
of course the EU will profit from the deal. They got us by the short and curlies. BJ will claim this and that, I reckon zlatan is right in saying that the German car manufacturers got exactly what they always wanted.
A. Campbell said that Keir Starmer should abstain and explain that this deal is not good enough and make sure that the tories own brexit and fight among themselves.
A. Campbell said that Keir Starmer should abstain and explain that this deal is not good enough and make sure that the tories own brexit and fight among themselves.
About £112 million a year.
In areas where it will be difficult to replace jobs lost.
And seed potato growing isn't something that can be done just anywhere. Scotland and some of northern England are particularly well suited.
Plus, NI might find it difficult to obtain adequate supplies of good quality seed potatoes from elsewhere.
I must admit, I was taken in by this Sovereignty, freedom, no rules rubbish. But what does it actually mean?
What will we be able to do on 1 Jan that we can’t do now? What new things will freedom bring to you on 1 Jan? Which rules are adversely affecting your life?
Since you are the resident loser is that what you intend to do?
you still haven't learned a thing, still a willing mug, Bojo has lied to you again!
This clause is interesting
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The EU and UK agreement over Brexit allowed both sides to review the deal in four years time - enabling the government to choose a no-deal Brexit or closer alignment
The 'break' clause will allow the European Union and the UK government to bring the agreement to an end if they are not happy with the arrangements."
And won't our jolly Brexiteers just love the thought that the Government might decide to rejoin, without bothering with another referendum?
It's called taking back control.
You have to laugh
As I said Boris has mugged the dumb Brexit voters once again
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The EU and UK agreement over Brexit allowed both sides to review the deal in four years time - enabling the government to choose a no-deal Brexit or closer alignment
The 'break' clause will allow the European Union and the UK government to bring the agreement to an end if they are not happy with the arrangements."
And won't our jolly Brexiteers just love the thought that the Government might decide to rejoin, without bothering with another referendum?
It's called taking back control.
You have to laugh
As I said Boris has mugged the dumb Brexit voters once again
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Yes it clearly says we should have stayed in the EU and not gone through all the struggle because nutters put a cross in the wrong box, so now we end up with you all excited to get much less than you had before, how dumb is that?
Don't forget your passport
Which reminds me, the devil is in the detail there.This clause is interesting
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The EU and UK agreement over Brexit allowed both sides to review the deal in four years time - enabling the government to choose a no-deal Brexit or closer alignment
The 'break' clause will allow the European Union and the UK government to bring the agreement to an end if they are not happy with the arrangements."
And won't our jolly Brexiteers just love the thought that the Government might decide to rejoin, without bothering with another referendum?
It's called taking back control.
You have to laugh
As I said Boris has mugged the dumb Brexit voters once again
What happens if in four years time the EU decides it doesn't like the arrangement and dumps a no deal Brexit on us?
Oh Dear someone should really really be reading the small print of this surrender document!
Sorry but I'm laughing, apologies I know I shouldn't really but we are long overdue to the time when Politicians here should leave thinking to the Qualified as they do in the EU.
Jesus OG.. Credit where credit due. All along everyone has insisted, especially on here, no chance of free trade, no quotas and fully leaving. However you examine it, we have left and have free trade, no quotas, no ECJ and complete control over rules we live by. That by all you was claimed impossible, mutually exclusive. Yes, we, ve compromised a bit, probably sold seeding potatoes industry down river... But we can look forward to no tariffs on cars going either way ( a massive relief for both sides), no quotas... And yes potential tarrifs if we tried to dump cheap products on EU... Yes, tariffs on stuff if we diverge on standards. But the truth of it, you will never accept, is deal is about to be 50 times better than you expected or would have accepted. All along, from day one of this pointless thread, I, ve told you our bargainung position is way better than you claimed. At every step you and fools like you have down played our position and under estimated what country is capable of. Even now, after we, ve achieved a fair deal for both us and EU and all are now in a position to move forward together as a united Europe you refuse to see reality. We are better out the EU, we, ve got free trade AND control of our borders, rules, regs and laws. You are just sounding silly now... A grumpy old man with an axe to grind that's now worn out. Time to move on. We, ve left And got a good deal. End of. And Boris did it. PM for next 20 years.
No Zlatan what we said is that there would be an acceptance of a deal along the lines of the one already agreed between May and the EU the rest is just propaganda.
Even his previous deal was actually hers dressed up!
And now in four years time if the FTA doesn't suit the EU, they can give us the boot.
Come on get real we've been well as truly had, and you know it
One thing it means, which affects quite a number of people I am in contact with, is that UK prescriptions will no longer be recognised by pharmacies in the EU. And, I assume, vice versa.
I could explain at length, but I doubt anyone cares about the details, there are good reasons for people to use this option. No longer possible.
Don't forget we can have prawn cocktail flavoured crisps and curved bananas.
Oh - we already could...
The simple fact you all fail to accept (assuming deal is ratified by EU and our MPs) is simple fact, regardless of details, is that
A) BMWs and the likes can flow into UK tariff free.
B) Toyotas, Honda and BMWs can flow out tariff free.
C) We have complete control of Laws.
D) We have complete control of immigration.
E) Whatever it means, we have Sovereignty.
F) We won't be governed from Brussels.
G) We are not sending goodness how much money every year to recondition roads going nowhere in Northern Spain.
The details as Danidl shouts about are noise.
We can sack Farage. Say goodbye to his like and enjoy our freedom and friendship with EU.
Boris is in no10 for as long as he wants. Tories in power at least next 20 years. Labour are dead. There simply is no real opposition and there is none on horizon. Thank the Liberal elite in London for that.
A) BMWs and the likes can flow into UK tariff free.
B) Toyotas, Honda and BMWs can flow out tariff free.
C) We have complete control of Laws.
D) We have complete control of immigration.
E) Whatever it means, we have Sovereignty.
F) We won't be governed from Brussels.
G) We are not sending goodness how much money every year to recondition roads going nowhere in Northern Spain.
The details as Danidl shouts about are noise.
We can sack Farage. Say goodbye to his like and enjoy our freedom and friendship with EU.
Boris is in no10 for as long as he wants. Tories in power at least next 20 years. Labour are dead. There simply is no real opposition and there is none on horizon. Thank the Liberal elite in London for that.
How many people go over to France to get their prescriptions. I can't buy baba rums at my local bakers either. Mind you, decent copies at Lidl, which can come in tariff free.. I can't get my prescription from chemists in Jamaica when I go there. Perhaps we should join with them. Stupid argument. Straws and clutching spring to mind. Mind you seeding potatoes was as well.
Sorry, you lot, I can't help but smile. What a great big waste of words on here. Literally millions of them, all saying we can't get a deal and leave EU. Ah ah ah... Can't imagine how stupid some of you must feel.
No tarrifs. No quotas. And we, ve left. Free trade with EU... Ah ah fecking ah.. Its made my Christmas. Good old Boris.
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I am delighted that some form of accommodation has been reached between the EU and UK. Our view is that the best Brexit is zero Brexit, and the Worst Brexit would have been a no deal WTO Brexit. It will take a few years to tease out what actually has been lost or gained, ..by either side. I doubt it is as sanguine as Zlatan wishes to believe, or as dire as I was afraid would have occurred. Time will tell.
In reality that's about where I am.. In effect a decent compromise considering the vote (in 2016)..Fair post Danidl. Stay safe. Good Xmas matey.
No one ever said we can't get a deal,you have made that up, check back through the thread and you will find we said that there would be a BRINO deal and that is what the EU have conned Boris into and by the way there is now a lot of paperwork where none existed before
Brussels has published a checklist of "big changes" EU member states can expect when trading with Britain under the newly-agreed Brexit deal.
The EU has issued a chart
The chart shows frictionless trade coming to an end, Britain's services industry undergoing a shake-up with the end to the "financial services passport" allowing British firms the right to operate in EU markets, and the end of the Erasmus programme for UK students.
Among other changes is the end of visa-free travel beyond 90 days, the recognition of professional qualifications, and the introduction of border checks.
If you end Frictionless trade the result is the end of Just in time supply chains.
And all for nothing, now for the fun!
Actually we already had options A to F, this is really getting silly, there just simply isn't any way we have profited from Brexit