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Wimpy, Mcalpine, Bison great builders.
As a supplier to most of them over many years I can assure you they were often hardly great builders. In fact the first one only builds queues serving beefburgers and fries.

Wimpey threw together some 20th century estates.
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I’m trying to get a Ryan Air flight to Rome. I’m going to knock the Colosseum and a few statues down because the Romans have a history of slavery and it offends me. Do you think the Italians will understand? Sod the fact it has nothing to do with people alive today and they are completely powerless to change history.

Alternatively, I could fast forwards a few hundred years and concern myself with slavery of today. Those slaves the French navy are escorting across the channel and the RNLI are helping the slave traders to go about their business. Perhaps that might be a better cause, but that’s not easy and people only want easy.

flecc, could you take care of demolishing the Pyramids please? Built by slaves.

OG, can you give flecc a hand with the Pyramids? Ta.

I think The Mayor of London is ok for labour on his demolition job.

Cheers
Having a bit of a fascist turn are you? there is no evidence to suggest the pyramids were built by slaves by the way, personally i have no objection to you vandalising statues abroad if the fancy takes you, it is after all something fascists have been doing from the first time they appeared.

Personally I don't care what you do, after all you've done far worse in the way of Vandalsing things by voting for Brexit, and for an encore Boris too, so I doubt even with your imagination you can top that performance .

There is a sort of manic humour there in that the very things you thought you wanted enough to vote for
you attack with such enthusiasm!
I have always admired the panache you bring to the art of destruction.:cool:
 

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As a supplier to most of them over many years I can assure you they were often hardly great builders. In fact the first one only builds queues serving beefburgers and fries.

Wimpey threw together some 20th century estates.
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I had the misfortune to visit many of their worst efforts and don't leave out Barratts who deserve a special mention too.
 

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No they weren't. There is a consensus among Egyptologists that the Great Pyramids were not built by slaves. Rather, it was peasants who built the pyramids during flooding, when they could not work in their lands.

In fact the builders included craftsmen where very proud of their work and were so famous in their own time that we even know their full names now. And there were even stone tombs built for the respectful burials of the peasant builders.

The myth that they were built by slaves came from the ancient Greek historian Herodotus, obviously guessing without any factual knowledge.
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No doubt he served on a Sage committee or two in his time
 
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the Telegraph is running a campaign to get kids to school
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School age children more likely to be hit by lightning than die of coronavirus
Experts said previous generations had dealt with the issue by allowing youngsters to pick up infections when they were less dangerous


But of course if they bring it home, their Mothers and Fathers aren't likely to be so lucky
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We must face down these selfish whingers who want to keep schools shut
The Government must stop indulging the teaching unions in their appalling dereliction of duty to our young
ANGELA EPSTEIN

Presumably this is aimed at the teachers?

Not very cute
 
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the Telegraph is running a campaign to get kids to school
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School age children more likely to be hit by lightning than die of coronavirus
Experts said previous generations had dealt with the issue by allowing youngsters to pick up infections when they were less dangerous
they don't want to see the problem from the staff's point of view.
what we should be doing is to develop a strategy to cope with future outbreaks. How to run schools without a full staffing level.
 

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what we should be doing is to develop a strategy to cope with future outbreaks. How to run schools without a full staffing level.
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It's simple.

When we thought we wouldn't have enough hospitals we converted exhibition centres into Nightingale hospitals which haven't been needed.

Now we need more school space to keep the kids separated, convert the Nightingale hospitals into extension schools.
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Barry Shittpeas

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No they weren't. There is a consensus among Egyptologists that the Great Pyramids were not built by slaves. Rather, it was peasants who built the pyramids during flooding, when they could not work in their lands.

In fact the builders included craftsmen where very proud of their work and were so famous in their own time that we even know their full names now. And there were even stone tombs built for the respectful burials of the peasant builders.

The myth that they were built by slaves came from the ancient Greek historian Herodotus, obviously guessing without any factual knowledge.
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Slavery certainly existed in ancient Egypt, but I don’t think anyone can say with the same certainty that forced slave labourers built the Pyramids. The Egyptians will have benefited from the labour provided by slaves, so I’d still like you and OG to destroy as many ancient Egyptian artefacts as you can please. Once you’ve done, could you make a start on the Roman stuff? I’ll try and get somebody to help you but it might not be until the end of the week, they are smashing up French stuff at the moment because of their slave trade. The bastard French refuse point blank to create a time machine & travel back and undo the bad works of dead people. Can you believe their uncaring attitude.

Anyway the Clown Prince of London is assembling a group of mates and they are going to decide which history they don’t like and erased it from the Capital. They could burn some libraries down whilst they are at it too I suppose. I wonder he will replace Nelson with an Oprah Winfrey statue?
 
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Barry Shittpeas

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the Telegraph is running a campaign to get kids to school
"
School age children more likely to be hit by lightning than die of coronavirus
Experts said previous generations had dealt with the issue by allowing youngsters to pick up infections when they were less dangerous


But of course if they bring it home, their Mothers and Fathers aren't likely to be so lucky
And also
We must face down these selfish whingers who want to keep schools shut
The Government must stop indulging the teaching unions in their appalling dereliction of duty to our young
ANGELA EPSTEIN

Presumably this is aimed at the teachers?

Not very cute
I don’t think anyone gives a shite about children catching Coronavirus, as the paper points out, they are extremely likely to have no, or very mild symptoms.

Young people have behaved appallingly throughout the Coronavirus disruption. They have no regard for anyone except themselves. They meet in groups, do not social distance, have created small mountains of litter and broken glass, make no attempt to separate 2m from other people out and about. They are absolutely not up to the job and are a total disgrace.

I say keep the schools closed, they won’t adhere to any safety measures and will infect teachers. Then they carry the virus into the family unit and take Fat Dad, granny and grand dad out with their reckless behaviour. ****’em

The kids that were going to do well will still do well, and the wasters will still fail.
 
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flecc

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Slavery certainly existed in ancient Egypt, but I don’t think anyone can say with the same certainty that forced slave labourers built the Pyramids.
It did to a degree, but there's plenty of evidence that they didn't build the pyramids.

However, the Egyptian peasants who did build them, just like our own peasants in the middle ages, were effectively slaves, controlled by their leaders aided by religion and the compliance of the peasants with both.

We peasants have come a long way since then, putting two fingers up to religion and no longer so compliant, much to the distress of our leaders.
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flecc

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The Egyptians will have benefited from the labour provided by slaves, so I’d still like you and OG to destroy as many ancient Egyptian artefacts as you can please.
No, nothing to do with us, we are not Egyptians. It's for them to do that toppling if ever they gain a social conscience.

Edward Colston was a Briton so removing the statue celebrating his disgusting life was for us to do.
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No, nothing to do with us, we are not Egyptians. It's for them to do that toppling if ever they gain a social conscience.

Edward Colston was a Briton so removing the statue celebrating his disgusting life was for us to do.
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I think the Colston statue did need removing, or more information displaying along side it detailing how barbaric the slave trade was, conditions on the ships, mortality rates etc. Turn it into a symbol of disgrace rather than someone to celebrate. However, it wasn’t for a baying tribal primitive mob to pull it down in such a manner. I think those people need identifying, prosecuting and if found guilty, being used to set an example.
 
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It's simple.
hospital treatment waiting list is growing at alarming rate. 10 millions by the end of the year.
Millions are going to die indirectly before their time because we did not learn the way Chinese and South Koreans deal with COVID. They put up specialised hospital for COVID so not to disrupt normal hospitals. We cleared the beds from our normal hospitals, making a scarce resource scarcer still and the 5 million queue becomes soon a 10 million one.
If you have cancer or heart problem, what are you going to do?
 

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