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RossG

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Don't want to pour scorn on the back slapping re London deaths but come on, it had the highest rate in the country because it didn't lock down soon enough or quick enough. My home town pop: 238,000 fatalities = about 90,
London pop: almost 10mil, fatalities = 6000 my mask not only stays on, I've just got two more !
 
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Why does England need a "world beating" trace and track system?
Surely a system that works is all that is required without the cost and complication of gold plating and building a Rolls Royce where a Ford Focus will do the job.
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If the experience of this group of tracers and trackers is anything to go by, England doesn't need any tracing or tracking whatsoever.

Not until something actually happens when they have tracked and traced...

UK's first coronavirus contact-tracing group warns of difficulties

Retired doctors in Sheffield say their struggles show challenges government’s system will face
A group of retired doctors who set up the UK’s first Covid-19 contact-tracing scheme has warned that the government system faces major challenges after they struggled to persuade health and care workers to self-isolate.

Dr Bing Jones, a retired Sheffield GP, helped start the group a month ago out of frustration that contact tracing had been abandoned in England. “We sat down and thought: this is a major omission – a schoolboy error. We have got one of the biggest crises you can possibly imagine and one of the major building blocks of the public health management of an epidemic is not being done,” he said.

They were surprised to find that most contacts of people with Covid-19 were workers from the NHS, care homes or care provider agencies – and that those people were not always happy to stop work and go into isolation for seven to 14 days. “The majority were in health and care settings. That’s the really big and worrying message here,” said Jones.

The group set up its pilot project in Sheffield, using volunteers who called up people with Covid-19 referred to them by GPs. The volunteers offered support and asked for the names and numbers of anyone the patient had spent more than 15 minutes with in an enclosed space.

Their early report of what happened – with 13 people who had Covid-19 and 58 of their contacts – paints a worrying picture. People were unwilling to let them have details or the volunteers were unable to reach 39 of the 58. In 29 cases, those were care workers.

“You talk to somebody and they will sometimes give you the names of their fellow cleaners or kitchen staff in a care home, but as soon as they start talking to each other they think, well we’d better talk to our manager, and the manager says oh no – you’d better not do this,” said Jones.

“And the fact is that in all of these care settings but also in the NHS, there is no culture for contact tracing. There’s also no culture of self-isolation.

“The emotional side of this is me listening to our volunteers every night saying: ‘I have got all this information, I’ve tried to get in touch with the helper at the care home and then the shutters come down. I got in touch with the trust – the teaching hospital trust – and bang, the shutters come down.’”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/21/uk-first-coronavirus-contact-tracing-group-warns-of-difficulties
 
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Barry Shittpeas said:
Both the French and British are complicit in it. The French know exactly when and where they set off from, they meet the dinghy about 500 metres off shore and escort it to the halfway point where a UK Border Force boat meets them, picks them up and carries them into the UK.

Both the French and UK are very aggressive towards any reporting / filming of what takes place. They threaten to seize camera equipment and boats. It's clearly a negotiated arrangement that requires some level of cooperation between France and the UK and some deal also seems to have been struck with the BBc and other media outlets. I don't know why its taking place, but I speculate that they don't want a disaster happening in the channel for political reasons.

However, we have to stomach Fat-Arse Patel pretending to talk tough on the issue saying the UK is tackling it. I just wish they would be honest about what's happening and explain why.
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Where do you think Patel will get her fruit pickers from if this is stopped?
 
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Danidl said:
I think I can answer your question as posed in your first sentence... You are a troll!. Now whereas the purpose of this thread is about Brexit and related peripheral matters ..ie European , would you kindly start your own thread, so we can ignore you in peace.
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In a word, no. Who voted you in to be a forum administrator?
 
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RossG said:
Sky news finds wet markets in Asia still selling wild animals like bats...don't ditch those masks too quickly :(
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The dirty little bastards need a few buckets of sunshine dumping on them via ICBMs. A 100000000 degree C deep cleaning should sort them out. They are a blight.
 
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