Brexit, for once some facts.

Barry Shittpeas

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Really? and where does it say that? chapter and verse please


I don’t believe these regulations have a provision for the wine sodden, garlic breathed shifty French to shove them over the channel for us to process. Especially when they have accepted money and pledged agreement not to do this in exchange for that money. I can’t say that I’m surprised, the French have a long history of untrustworthyness, deceit and acts of treachery. I think it’s the sense of inferiority, guilt and shame which they shoulder as a nation that drives them to act in such a despicable manner. Terrible people the French.
 
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Barry Shittpeas

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Being as it’s Thursday and we are expected to clap for out careers, should we not have boo for our parliament? Say on a Monday evening at 8:00 pm, we could all go out and boo to mark the appalling mess and the lack of leadership from the government? We could call it Boo for Boris, although so little has been seen of him at this time of unprecedented national crisis, that many could be forgiven for not knowing who he is.

Go on, Boo for Boris every Monday at 8:00 pm. You know where it started first.
 

wheeler

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Being as it’s Thursday and we are expected to clap for out careers, should we not have boo for our parliament? Say on a Monday evening at 8:00 pm, we could all go out and boo to mark the appalling mess and the lack of leadership from the government? We could call it Boo for Boris, although so little has been seen of him at this time of unprecedented national crisis, that many could be forgiven for not knowing who he is.

Go on, Boo for Boris every Monday at 8:00 pm. You know where it started first.
You would have to trace and track the blonde bawbag first.
 

wheeler

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Why does England need a "world beating" trace and track system?
Surely a system that works is all that is required without the cost and complication of gold plating and building a Rolls Royce where a Ford Focus will do the job.
 

Barry Shittpeas

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You would have to trace and track the blonde bawbag first.
I know, where is the ****? We are in the middle of the biggest crisis since WW2 and our Prime Minister has hardly been seen. I think we’ve seen him talk to the public about 3 times in as many months. The people taking the Downing Street briefings are now a series of unknowns, who was that ginger **** presiding last night?

I suppose the one positive from Johnson’s absence is the fact that when he does appear, he tends to make things worse.

I think we should Boo for Boris, just to let them know that we believe they are doing a shite job and are displaying absolutely no leadership.
 

Barry Shittpeas

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Why does England need a "world beating" trace and track system?
Surely a system that works is all that is required without the cost and complication of gold plating and building a Rolls Royce where a Ford Focus will do the job.
It won’t be world beating, it will be a crock of shite with sufficient numbers of staff, on paper, to theoretically cope with demand.

The signs are already there from the people recruited, many saying its “a chaotic mess with very little or no training.“

Whether or not it’s world beating is yet to be judged on performance. It is not for an AWOL arse-hole Prime Minister who caught Coronavirus because he’s a **** to mark his own homework.
 
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RossG

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I don’t believe these regulations have a provision for the wine sodden, garlic breathed shifty French to shove them over the channel for us to process. Especially when they have accepted money and pledged agreement not to do this in exchange for that money. I can’t say that I’m surprised, the French have a long history of untrustworthyness, deceit and acts of treachery. I think it’s the sense of inferiority, guilt and shame which they shoulder as a nation that drives them to act in such a despicable manner. Terrible people the French.
The devil's in the detail though Barry, note the convention states " the first place of safety" it's easy for any country to tell those asylum seekers they won't be safe if they stop where they are (usually France) so they get pushed on.
I suppose we could do the same thing and push them up the Irish or North seas but there you go, we don't.
 

wheeler

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I know, where is the ****? We are in the middle of the biggest crisis since WW2 and our Prime Minister has hardly been seen. I think we’ve seen him talk to the public about 3 times in as many months. The people taking the Downing Street briefings are now a series of unknowns, who was that ginger **** presiding last night?

I suppose the one positive from Johnson’s absence is the fact that when he does appear, he tends to make things worse.

I think we should Boo for Boris, just to let them know that we believe they are doing a shite job and are displaying absolutely no leadership.
That's a plan then, I'll arrange "Boo the Bawbag" in my neighbourhood, presumably social media will spread the word.
 
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wheeler

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It won’t be world beating, it will be a crock of shite with sufficient numbers of staff, on paper, to theoretically cope with demand.

The signs are already there from the people recruited, many saying its “a chaotic mess with very little or no training.“
I got that wrong then, I thought the Bawbag meant it would be world beating in how good it was, it could well be world beating in how crap it is.
 

Barry Shittpeas

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The devil's in the detail though Barry, note the convention states " the first place of safety" it's easy for any country to tell those asylum seekers they won't be safe if they stop where they are (usually France) so they get pushed on.
I suppose we could do the same thing and push them up the Irish or North seas but there you go, we don't.
It would be impossible for any EU member state to argue that their country is not a place of safety. It’s the French being French, dishonest, underhand and treacherous.
 

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Why does England need a "world beating" trace and track system?
Surely a system that works is all that is required without the cost and complication of gold plating and building a Rolls Royce where a Ford Focus will do the job.
Or better still a Hyundai, given how well South Korea have done with Covid-19.
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jonathan.agnew

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I know, where is the ****? We are in the middle of the biggest crisis since WW2 and our Prime Minister has hardly been seen. I think we’ve seen him talk to the public about 3 times in as many months. The people taking the Downing Street briefings are now a series of unknowns, who was that ginger **** presiding last night?

I suppose the one positive from Johnson’s absence is the fact that when he does appear, he tends to make things worse.

I think we should Boo for Boris, just to let them know that we believe they are doing a shite job and are displaying absolutely no leadership.
Nothing like buyers regret, huh? But which other Tory would you have preferred? JRM? Govy? Chunt? Boris, at least, pretends to clap along
 
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RossG

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It would be impossible for any EU member state to argue that their country is not a place of safety. It’s the French being French, dishonest, underhand and treacherous.
I agree legally they couldn't but still, if you have a group of Sailors, Marines or some other authority hanging over the side of a ship pointing machine guns at you advising you to keep going the chances are you will.
They won't know anything about EU law only that sooner or later someone will pick them up, and of course it's always us.
I'd like to see some TV & Newspaper reporters embedded in over in France reporting back as to what really is going on. We already know organised gangs are behind these immigrants getting them a boat, collecting the money and giving them a push off. We also know the French are well aware of this and possibly complicit in it, so isn't it about time we had some sneaky reporter posing as a go between to get some video of what really happens when these unfortunate sods turn up in France.
 
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Barry Shittpeas

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I agree legally they couldn't but still, if you have a group of Sailors, Marines or some other authority hanging over the side of a ship pointing machine guns at you advising you to keep going the chances are you will.
They won't know anything about EU law only that sooner or later someone will pick them up, and of course it's always us.
I'd like to see some TV & Newspaper reporters embedded in over in France reporting back as to what really is going on. We already know organised gangs are behind these immigrants getting them a boat, collecting the money and giving them a push off. We also know the French are well aware of this and possibly complicit in it, so isn't it about time we had some sneaky reporter posing as a go between to get some video of what really happens when these unfortunate sods turn up in France.
Both the French and British are complicit in it. The French know exactly when and where they set off from, they meet the dinghy about 500 metres off shore and escort it to the halfway point where a UK Border Force boat meets them, picks them up and carries them into the UK.

Both the French and UK are very aggressive towards any reporting / filming of what takes place. They threaten to seize camera equipment and boats. It's clearly a negotiated arrangement that requires some level of cooperation between France and the UK and some deal also seems to have been struck with the BBc and other media outlets. I don't know why its taking place, but I speculate that they don't want a disaster happening in the channel for political reasons.

However, we have to stomach Fat-Arse Patel pretending to talk tough on the issue saying the UK is tackling it. I just wish they would be honest about what's happening and explain why.
 
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oyster

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Why does England need a "world beating" trace and track system?
Surely a system that works is all that is required without the cost and complication of gold plating and building a Rolls Royce where a Ford Focus will do the job.
To go with our world-beating victims/deaths statistics.

Oh dear... We are not supposed to contrast the UK against the rest of the world to show how badly we have done. Only when they say "world-beating".
 
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vfr400

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More evidence comes out every day:

Why do I keep showing you about what happened to Trump in a Brexit thread? As you'll see later, the bad guys are all connected and working together. Here's a nice little snippet from George Papadopolous, who was Trump's campaign manager and one of the targets on whom the FBI spied on and tried to dig up dirt:


Now look what he said in this interview at 33:50 and 38:26, where he mentions David Cameron!

 
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RossG

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More evidence comes out every day:

Why do I keep showing you about what happened to Trump in a Brexit thread? As you'll see later, the bad guys are all connected and working together. Here's a nice little snippet from George Papadopolous, who was Trump's campaign manager and one of the targets on whom the FBI spied on and tried to dig up dirt:


Now look what he said in this interview at 33:50 and 38:26, where he mentions David Cameron!

It's all very interesting stuff vfr but tbh all anyone cares about on this side of the pond is when McDonalds & Primark are reopening, seriously they do. Now if you have any secret info on that it would go viral if that's the right term to use these days.
 
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sjpt

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Why does England need a "world beating" trace and track system?
Surely a system that works is all that is required without the cost and complication of gold plating and building a Rolls Royce where a Ford Focus will do the job.
I hope not, but I have a nasty feeling it will be world beating in false positives, false negatives, and data leaks.
 

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