Brexit, for once some facts.

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Have you got some examples of what he's done to make the poor get poorer? I heard that he's dragged a lot of people out of poverty by creating jobs for the areas where there was high unemployment, especially for black and Hispanic people. All guys I follow on social media, who are mainly traditional left-wing, say they're financially better off as a result of Trump.
Mr woosh, I guess that's a no then!
Maybe you should listen to this talking cat instead of where you get your info from. It seems to be making a bit more sense:
 

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Did someone say that they would be out to get Kier (or Sir Kier - I don't care)?

Health minister Nadine Dorries deletes tweet sharing anti-Starmer smear

Labour has expressed alarm after a series of Conservative MPs, including a minister, shared a video tweeted by a hard-right Twitter account which falsely claimed Sir Keir Starmer obstructed the targeting of grooming gang victims when he led the Crown Prosecution Service.
The tweeted video was shared by Nadine Dorries, who is now a junior health minister, as well as Telford MP Lucy Allan and Maria Caulfield, who represents Lewes. All expressed alarm at what the video purported to show, with Dorries calling it “revealing”.
Yes, I did, twice.

The main attacks will be in the run up to the next GE though.

The he'll suddenly become a Trotskyite, a Marxist, a Communist and Anti-Semitic.
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Oh dear, they're starting to gang up on Obama now. The Mexican president wants to know about operation Fast and Furious. The gun-running to Mexico is said to be how the Clintons made all their money, along with drugs and human trafficking. Obama seems to have had his nose in the trough too. There's more to this story than meets the eye. Note these words in it, "as his regime digs for possible corruption under previous administrations.":
did you actually read the article?

He cited former US Attorney General Eric Holder as saying Mexican authorities knew about the 2009-2011 scheme, which allowed people to buy arms illegally in the US and take them to Mexico, so they could be tracked to drug cartel bosses and lead law enforcement there.
The scheme hoped to limit gun smuggling across the border.
A review of the operation found that only 710 out of about 2,000 firearms were recovered as of February 2012, according to the Office of the Inspector General.
it appears that the American law enforcement mounted the operation trying to stop the traffickers.
Your adding 'Obama seems to have had his nose in the trough too.' seems like robotic propaganda.
 
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Have you got some examples of what he's done to make the poor get poorer?
Obama rescued the USA from the economic crisis of 2008.
Trump inherited an economy on the mend.
Compare Trump's record against Obama's record.
On jobs: Obama created more jobs than Trump.
Obama gave health care to a large number of poor Americans. Trump reduced their health care cover.
Trump mishandled COVID.
The two don't compare in a million years.
 

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did you actually read the article?



it appears that the American law enforcement mounted the operation trying to stop the traffickers.
Your adding 'Obama seems to have had his nose in the trough too.' seems like robotic propaganda.
Woosh .. recognise a troll by their actions. Even if he read the article, he would not have comprehended it. Ignore is the only viable strategy
 

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did you actually read the article?
it appears that the American law enforcement mounted the operation trying to stop the traffickers.
Your adding 'Obama seems to have had his nose in the trough too.' seems like robotic propaganda.
You don't understand how the scam worked. They gave a few weapons to minor offenders and arrested them, but they gave the bulk to the cartel leaders to help them run the drugs and human trafficking.
Obama rescued the USA from the economic crisis of 2008.
Trump inherited an economy on the mend.
Compare Trump's record against Obama's record.
On jobs: Obama created more jobs than Trump.
Obama gave health care to a large number of poor Americans. Trump reduced their health care cover.
Trump mishandled COVID.
The two don't compare in a million years.
That's a no then.
 
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Slightly more:

Brexit means Irish Sea checks – The government has privately conceded there will be post-Brexit checks on goods crossing the Irish Sea, months after Boris Johnson ruled it out. A letter to the executive office in Stormont confirmed there would be border control posts in three ports: Belfast, Warrenpoint and Larne. A Northern Ireland minister confirmed the news to members of the Stormont assembly on Tuesday. The prime minister agreed checks on goods entering Northern Ireland from Great Britain in a breakthrough meeting in Wirral with his Irish counterpart, Leo Varadkar, in October 2019 but was accused of misleading the public after he was recorded telling local businesses afterwards that there would be no checks.
Note to Boris from Cummings: best we try to ignore this and offer some new Doctored video of Starmer till the public get tired and it goes away
 
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You don't understand how the scam worked.
No, I don't - but again, I can't see US Presidents, usually very rich people before and after being POTUS, get involved with petty schemes like this. They sent out 1200, recovered 700. How much profit 500 hand guns are worth exporting to Mexico?
That's a no then.
very funny.
 

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What's going on at Buzzfeed? There are a lot of blue checkmarks saying good things about them at the moment. I heard that Jonah Peretti has just bought himself a new $5.2 million home. They must be doing well.
 

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No, I don't - but again, I can't see US Presidents, usually very rich people before and after being POTUS, get involved with petty schemes like this. They sent out 1200, recovered 700. How much profit 500 hand guns are worth exporting to Mexico?

very funny.
It wasn't a petty scheme. It involved 100s of billions of dollars from drugs and human trafficking to USA. The Mexican cartels have been doing this for decades as agents for crooked US government officials. The Mexican government decided to try and close them down, so the cartels needed weapons to fight back and keep the racket going. Crooked FBI and other officials hatched a plot to arm them. The plot was that they said they would sting the cartels by pretending to be gun-runners and supply them with traceable weapons, so when any of their guys were caught with weapons, they could prove that they had illegal weapons and arrest them; however, only a proportion of the weapons were ever traced, while the cartels were able to fight off the authorities. I guess the weapons recovered are from when the Mexican authorities overwhelmed the cartels. Whatever happened, the USA justice department is on to them and you'll hear some breaking news soon.

This is what the wall is all about. It's to stop the money flow that's financing the dems and their deep state friends. It's nothing to do with immigration. That's just a convenient excuse for it. It's also why the dems were dead against the wall and did everything they could to prevent it.

I thought you would know all this. It's not exactly a secret. The only change now is that Trump's side will put an end to it and probably add it to the list of crimes done by the high-ranking dems, when they're all dragged off to jail, which won't be long now.

You've been sold one hell of a dummy by the press and the dems re Russia collusion, Ukraine collusion and now Coronavirus. The dems were doing everything they accused Trump of. There isn't and never has been any evidence of Trump's wrong-doing, but, as you'll see, there is plenty of real evidence against the dems, which will send them to jail. This is why they had to get Trump at all costs. They know that if they can't take him down, their multi-billion racket will come to an end and some of them are going to get hard labour.

This isn't about politics. It's about corruption.
 
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No, I don't - but again, I can't see US Presidents, usually very rich people before and after being POTUS, get involved with petty schemes like this. They sent out 1200, recovered 700. How much profit 500 hand guns are worth exporting to Mexico?

very funny.
Is it troll's tea party time again?
 

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I’ve missed most of the Coronavirus Show. Can someone let me know the numbers we’ve done in the last 24 hours please?
 

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I’ve missed most of the Coronavirus Show. Can someone let me know the numbers we’ve done in the last 24 hours please?
I usually get figures from

It has lots of options of which countries, deaths/cases, total/per million, single day/rolling average, etc.
I keep several tabs open and refresh them early afternoon each day. It collects data from various fairly offical sources.

It say 494 deaths for UK latest reading (presumably yesterday).

To compare UK and Germany
 
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A very noticeable feature of the stats is the way that for most countries cases and then a bit later deaths tail off fairly rapidly a couple of weeks after lockdown. For UK the tail off is very slow. I can see why our peak was later and higher than several others (because of early stupidity by government). I can't see what is causing the drop to be so slow. Lockdown not strong enough (eg allowing excercise etc), people not observing lockdown, lack of PPE, bigger cities, ...??? I'm sure those all contribute but I wouldn't expect them to have such a strong effect.
 

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