Brexit, for once some facts.

[oyster]

Why no resignations? come on Starmer , demand they go

Might be a good thing to keep back - the "Even when you knew she/they had done something bad, and admitted it, you didn't take action beyond asking her/them to remove the tweets." ploy?

He said something like there are more important issues to deal with - which also adds to his statesman-like standing.

 

[oyster]

China.

Obviously a possibility - as are Israel, Russia, USA, and numerous others.

I did also ask "Why?"

 

[Woosh]

IT security companies have staff on both offensive and defensive desks.
Same with all antivirus companies.
It wouldn't surprise anyone if one was told that computer viruses are created by the same people who create virus scanners and removal tools.

 

[oyster]

Yes, this is a Chinese source. Yes, it very likely is state-controlled and propaganda. But difficult to disagree:

'Is Trump insane' to threaten cutting off ties with China?

By GT staff reporters Source:Global Times Published: 2020/5/14 23:33:24
Yes. And it is not China but the US who will suffer more
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1188437.shtml

 

[oyster]

IT security companies have staff on both offensive and defensive desks.
Same with all antivirus companies.
It wouldn't surprise anyone if one was told that computer viruses are created by the same people who create virus scanners and removal tools.

All too many anti-virus products act in ways which make them functionally indistinguishable from malware.

They screw with your system, slow it down, stops things working, are difficult to remove, etc.

 

[Woosh]

Yes, this is a Chinese source. Yes, it very likely is state-controlled and propaganda. But difficult to disagree:

Trump flip flops all the time and that creates opportunities in the stock market for his buddies.

 

[oyster]

Nice working for Johnson and May. Not.

The civil service after Brexit: lessons from the Article 50 period
A divided cabinet and battles between parliament and the government revealed fundamental tensions in the civil service’s role and its duty to “serve the government of the day”.

This report says that both Theresa May and Boris Johnson failed to defend the civil service when MPs and commentators questioned its impartiality.
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/publications/civil-service-after-brexit-article-50

 

[sjpt]

That's really my point , with any luck it should bankrupt the bloody party

Morally bankrupt already
To be fair, there are some good people in the party but they are being sidelined by the party leadership.

 

[Nev]

China.

A reasonable possibility, but I was sure the French would be top of your list of suspects.

 

[Nev]

Obviously a possibility - as are Israel, Russia, USA, and numerous others.

I did also ask "Why?"

There are so many countries that would like to do us harm for a variety of reasons. I guess you also can't rule out the spotty 17 year old computer generous, tucked away in his bedroom, stuffing himself full of biscuits and trying to hold the world to ransom.

 

[Nev]

I guess you also can't rule out the spotty 17 year old computer generous, tucked away in his bedroom, stuffing himself full of biscuits and trying to hold the world to ransom.

Someone like this

'Flash crash’ trader sentenced to one year home incarceration

Navinder Sarao, who had traded from a bedroom in his parents’ west London home, briefly caused havoc on Wall Street in 2010

www.theguardian.com

Apparently he made $70 million, trading from home but although a genius he invested it all with a bunch of crooks who stole most of it from him. A book about him came out earlier this week, I dabble a bit with trading so will probably buy it, should be an interesting read.

 

[oldgroaner]

you lot should watch some vids on live leak pmsl.

ItemFix - Social Video Factory

Social Video Factory

www.liveleak.com

i can see the dead ppl

i can see the dead ppl
Have you been playing with that Ouija board again?
Stop doing that , it could make you go blind

 

[oyster]

There are so many countries that would like to do us harm for a variety of reasons. I guess you also can't rule out the spotty 17 year old computer generous, tucked away in his bedroom, stuffing himself full of biscuits and trying to hold the world to ransom.

Yes - I can see why alll sorts of actors might wish to affect us. But to do so in a way which was, it appears, stoppable seems a bit odd.

Either they meant to bring things down seriously - in which case they failed. Or this was some sort of probing attack or warning.

 

[oyster]

'Appens it likely won't work and will not be anonymous. Great.

NHS contact tracing app isn't really anonymous, is riddled with bugs, and is open to abuse. Good thing we're not in the middle of a pandemic, eh?
Plus: There are some worrying data protection implications

By Matthew Hughes 14 May 2020 at 18:47
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/05/14/nhs_contact_tracing_app/

 

[oyster]

Johnson below DT.

A poll in France last week found Merkel to be far and away the most trusted world leader. Just 2% had confidence Trump was leading the world in the right direction. Only Boris Johnson and Xi Jinping inspired less faith.

Just how damning can you get?

 

[oldgroaner]

Yes - I can see why alll sorts of actors might wish to affect us. But to do so in a way which was, it appears, stoppable seems a bit odd.

Either they meant to bring things down seriously - in which case they failed. Or this was some sort of probing attack or warning.

It was the fascist republic of Tufton Street

 

[oldgroaner]

Johnson below DT.

A poll in France last week found Merkel to be far and away the most trusted world leader. Just 2% had confidence Trump was leading the world in the right direction. Only Boris Johnson and Xi Jinping inspired less faith.

Just how damning can you get?

I'm grappling with the novel concept of "inspiring less faith"

 

[oldgroaner]

John Appleby@JohnApplebyLD
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It must be constantly pointed out that the risk to most MPs is only moderate; it’s the risk of passing on infection that’s more significant. Even more so for schools, where it’s the children’s families and spread of infection that’s the problem; young children’s risk is low.

oldgroaner@oldgroaner
Following this logic we should have a parliament of young children, and to be frank the competence of decision making could well improve as a result, and there would be less absenteeism from hiding in fridges as the handles are too high.

 

[oyster]

John Appleby@JohnApplebyLD
·
1h
It must be constantly pointed out that the risk to most MPs is only moderate; it’s the risk of passing on infection that’s more significant. Even more so for schools, where it’s the children’s families and spread of infection that’s the problem; young children’s risk is low.

oldgroaner@oldgroaner
Following this logic we should have a parliament of young children, and to be frank the competence of decision making could well improve as a result, and there would be less absenteeism from hiding in fridges as the handles are too high.

"The risk" - of getting covid-19? Or of dying from it? Or just enduring life-long kidney or lung probelms? It is not as if coming through covid-19 is a guarantee of complete recovery.

 

[soundwave]

Homeless people face being kicked out of hotels in pandemic, leaked report says

A leaked report from the Greater Manchester Combined Authority announced that a scheme putting up homeless people in hotels and hostels in Manchester is being defunded

www.mirror.co.uk