Brexit, for once some facts.

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UK needs all the help it can get!

Johnson asks Putin to help 'world’s poorest countries"

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has invited Russian President Vladimir Putin to take part in a summit focused on tackling the pandemic.

The UK is set to host the virtual meeting of world leaders next month.

In a phone call, Johnson asked Putin to join in order to help "strengthen healthcare systems and tackle coronavirus in some of the world’s poorest countries", Downing Street said.

The conference, announced last month, aims to bring together world leaders, donors and vaccine makers to support the global vaccination body Gavi.

The two men "agreed on the importance of continuing to work together and with other countries to defeat the disease", No 10 added.
 

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Is this the result of another dodgy UGov polls?
Nah, it's just that with all these theories flying around it often seems to come back to that unfortunate creature.
I doubt a bat was the culprit they're everywhere so why would it spring up there and at that time. I know we don't eat bats here but they still bite no matter where they reside.
Something from a lab ? ...maybe but then how about all the other virus's starting with the Plague, they just happen to spring up now and again and can't all be from a test tube.
 

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I think God must have run out of locusts, first Brexit, then Boris as PM Covid 19 and now the Bloody rats are doing a reprise on the plague


How can he top this?choose your favourite
War
1:Asteroid Strike
2:The Siberian Traps erupt
3: The long overdue next ice age beats Global warning because Covid 19 has slashed the pollution levels that were actually holding it at bay?

Number 3 is my favourite!
 
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Once more, contradictory statements. It is almost as if the person making the statement today had not read "the rules".

Takeways are, inherently, just-in-time. You don't buy several at a time (well, several in the sense of buying for eveyone in the household, yes). It is not possible to abide by the imploring statement "as infrequently as possible" and at the same time make use takeways other than occasionally - if time and place happen to fall right.

If the government is so against takeways having closed, why have they waited until now to say anything?

Takeaway fast food outlets can reopen, minister George Eustice has said, insisting that the government never ordered them to shut.

Asked if fast food outlets could have stayed open during the crisis, the environment secretary explained: “While clearly restaurants and pubs had to close, we were quite keen to keep that capacity to be able to do takeaway food for people.”

Reduced footfall in town centres, staff anxiety and a sense of what was “socially acceptable” given the stay-at-home message had led to places such as McDonald’s and KFC closing, he suggested. He added:

I think it is quite possible for these venues to reopen and reopen safely, we never mandated that they should close. We have learned a lot from supermarkets and other food outlets about how you can do social distancing and do it well.
I think some of those food-to-go businesses will probably be seeking to learn lessons from what supermarkets have done as they consider tentatively reopening.”


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/may/08/uk-coronavirus-live-britain-ve-day-anniversary-lockdown-covid-19-latest-updates

1. Staying at home

You should only leave or be away from your home for very limited purposes:

  • shopping for basic necessities, for example food and medicine, which must be as infrequent as possible
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others
 
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Once more, contradictory statements. It is almost as if the person making the statement today had not read "the rules".

Takeways are, inherently, just-in-time. You don't buy several at a time (well, several in the sense of buying for eveyone in the household, yes). It is not possible to abide by the imploring statement "as infrequently as possible" and at the same time make use takeways other than occasionally - if time and place happen to fall right.

If the government is so against takeways having closed, why have they waited until now to say anything?

Takeaway fast food outlets can reopen, minister George Eustice has said, insisting that the government never ordered them to shut.

Asked if fast food outlets could have stayed open during the crisis, the environment secretary explained: “While clearly restaurants and pubs had to close, we were quite keen to keep that capacity to be able to do takeaway food for people.”

Reduced footfall in town centres, staff anxiety and a sense of what was “socially acceptable” given the stay-at-home message had led to places such as McDonald’s and KFC closing, he suggested. He added:

I think it is quite possible for these venues to reopen and reopen safely, we never mandated that they should close. We have learned a lot from supermarkets and other food outlets about how you can do social distancing and do it well.
I think some of those food-to-go businesses will probably be seeking to learn lessons from what supermarkets have done as they consider tentatively reopening.”


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/may/08/uk-coronavirus-live-britain-ve-day-anniversary-lockdown-covid-19-latest-updates

1. Staying at home

You should only leave or be away from your home for very limited purposes:
  • shopping for basic necessities, for example food and medicine, which must be as infrequent as possible
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others
Actually I did read the rules at the time and fast food outlets and take aways were excluded from the shutdown. One of the reasons being that essential services workers were relying on them. A Pizza after a 12 hour shift in AE . A bite of sandwich roll for the long distance lorry driver. Obviously McDonald's never read the memo!
Two of my offspring are in essential service jobs and both canteens have been closed.
 

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The frightening thing is that we are starting to see this as normal..and it is anything but. ! It must at some level be the same as people calmly waiting for buckets of water or a loaves of bread in Sarajevo s sniper alley
I’m afraid that is exactly what’s happening. It was only 8 weeks ago that we looked on in horror at Italy’s 600 / day Coronavirus death toll. Six hundred dead per day is now a good result for us, sunshine at the end of the tunnel, so Johnson tells us. Six hundred dead each day is now a reason to be optimistic and to start thinking about relaxing the measures designed to keep us alive.
 

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Once more, contradictory statements. It is almost as if the person making the statement today had not read "the rules".

Takeways are, inherently, just-in-time. You don't buy several at a time (well, several in the sense of buying for eveyone in the household, yes). It is not possible to abide by the imploring statement "as infrequently as possible" and at the same time make use takeways other than occasionally - if time and place happen to fall right.

If the government is so against takeways having closed, why have they waited until now to say anything?

Takeaway fast food outlets can reopen, minister George Eustice has said, insisting that the government never ordered them to shut.

Asked if fast food outlets could have stayed open during the crisis, the environment secretary explained: “While clearly restaurants and pubs had to close, we were quite keen to keep that capacity to be able to do takeaway food for people.”

Reduced footfall in town centres, staff anxiety and a sense of what was “socially acceptable” given the stay-at-home message had led to places such as McDonald’s and KFC closing, he suggested. He added:

I think it is quite possible for these venues to reopen and reopen safely, we never mandated that they should close. We have learned a lot from supermarkets and other food outlets about how you can do social distancing and do it well.
I think some of those food-to-go businesses will probably be seeking to learn lessons from what supermarkets have done as they consider tentatively reopening.”


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/may/08/uk-coronavirus-live-britain-ve-day-anniversary-lockdown-covid-19-latest-updates

1. Staying at home

You should only leave or be away from your home for very limited purposes:
  • shopping for basic necessities, for example food and medicine, which must be as infrequent as possible
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others
In fairness the government said very clearly when closing restaurants and similar that they could operate as takeaways instead. That some chose to close was their own decision and never ordered. I remember some saying it would be difficult to convert, so probably why they chose to close instead.
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flecc

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Actually I did read the rules at the time and fast food outlets and take aways were excluded from the shutdown. One of the reasons being that essential services workers were relying on them. A Pizza after a 12 hour shift in AE . A bite of sandwich roll for the long distance lorry driver. Obviously McDonald's never read the memo!
Two of my offspring are in essential service jobs and both canteens have been closed.
Agreed. Of course McDonalds are franchises so it's difficult to know if their outlet closures were individual decisions or corporate. The latter's decision might be legally questionable by franchises.
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In reference to the N Farage story of a day ago.. seems I was correct , and the Police did issue a caution.
 
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RossG

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I notice driving around yesterday some chippy's were open whereas others were not. My local KFC stayed open as a drive-in only but Maccy D's almost next door to it are still shut despite having a drive-in facility.
I believe in McDonalds case it was a corporate decision and probably not the best as KFC seemed to have cleaned up, for now at least.
Many shops that could not have practiced the distancing rule just put a table or whatever across the entrance so you could be served through the door. The old wartime spirit lives on >> WE ARE OPEN ! <<
 

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I notice driving around yesterday some chippy's were open whereas others were not. My local KFC stayed open as a drive-in only but Maccy D's almost next door to it are still shut despite having a drive-in facility.
I believe in McDonalds case it was a corporate decision and probably not the best as KFC seemed to have cleaned up, for now at least.
Many shops that could not have practiced the distancing rule just put a table or whatever across the entrance so you could be served through the door. The old wartime spirit lives on >> WE ARE OPEN ! <<
Yes, there's a real vacancy in my life for a sweaty undereducated adolescent with poor hygiene (and poorer understanding of covid) handing me a dodgy burger an underpaid chef spat in. But I'm sure bellowing we'll meet again in my shrill contralto will protect me from all the possible infection risk that involves.
 
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