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oldgroaner

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I read somewhere might have been on here, that the government may lift the lockdown first on the IOW as an experiment. Then if everyone starts catching covid again over there at least it's off the mainland and they can watch it unfold. I'm sure that wont be the case but equally sure it must have crossed someone's mind.
The Chinese do their medical experiments on their prisoners, we have an whole island !
I think you mean TWO, and we failed on the bigger one, but never mind
There are still 4,998 more smaller islands we could balls up
 

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I don't think signal coverage will be an issue. As I understand it, the App logs IDs of phones within a pre-defined radius of you using Bluetooth, that data will then be sent to a central server once a data connection is established. It doesn't matter if you are in a signal blackspot, the data will be stored on your phone and transmitted when you get in signal range / wifi range.

I'm not sure you are correct about mobile payments. I use nothing but my Apple Watch or Mobile phone for payments. I never use a card or cash and can pay anyone anywhere in the world at any time I like. I can't see what other payments facility is lacking.
what would happen if #1 is tested positive and been in contact with #2. #3 , #4, #5 then each of them is in contact with another 4, then each of the third rank in contact with another 4?
how far will you go down the branches?
We need extensive testing.
 

Barry Shittpeas

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what would happen if #1 is tested positive and been in contact with #2. #3 , #4, #5 then each of them is in contact with another 4, then each of the third rank in contact with another 4?
how far will you go down the branches?
We need extensive testing.
I don’t know for how many generations the warning will be issued. That’s a medical decision I suppose and that will evolve. I think the App has potential and we should give it a fair go.
 
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I don't think signal coverage will be an issue. As I understand it, the App logs IDs of phones within a pre-defined radius of you using Bluetooth, that data will then be sent to a central server once a data connection is established. It doesn't matter if you are in a signal blackspot, the data will be stored on your phone and transmitted when you get in signal range / wifi range.
Nice theory, but because I have no signal and am retired I have no use for a smartphone or its costs so don't have one.

I'm not sure you are correct about mobile payments. I use nothing but my Apple Watch or Mobile phone for payments. I never use a card or cash and can pay anyone anywhere in the world at any time I like. I can't see what other payments facility is lacking.
I am correct, not speaking about now but about the fact that across Africa they had mobile phone payments years go and long before we had any phone means. Those supposedly backward people who had no banking or credit cards had invented their own successful system.

I'm surprised you didn't know this.
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Barry Shittpeas

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Do you really, really seriously think it will?
With the government you voted for running the show on software from the dodgiest sociopathic rat on the planet's friends?
Here are my doubts
  1. When did this government last run any Computer project that actually worked?
  2. What danger is there of them equipping and organising the infrastructure to do the testing and tracking and isolation of cases?
  3. Is anyone gullible enough to trust them with their data if Cummings has been within a solar orbit distance of the system?
No thank you
Its NHSX developing the App. Not a great pedigree, but who knows. The worst that can happen is that it’s full of bugs and doesn’t work.

I think the idea is that you will be alerted that you have been within X metres of a person who has tested positive for Coronavirus. I’d quite like to know that if I have. I would take additional steps to isolate myself for acouple of weeks.

I’m not concerned about the data. Whilst ever you have a phone in your pocket, your movements are logged anyway.

This App May or may not work, if it does, it will be useful. If it doesn’t work, so what. It has to be worth a go.
 
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Barry Shittpeas

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Nice theory, but because I have no signal and am retired I have no use for a smartphone or its costs so don't have one.



I am correct, not speaking about now but about the fact that across Africa they had mobile phone payments years go and long before we had any phone means. Those supposedly backward people who had no banking or credit cards had invented their own successful system.

I'm surprised you didn't know this.
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Then you are out of the loop with this warning system. I’d buy a smartphone so that I could take part if I didn’t have one. In this situation, we need to give this technology a go.
 
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I don't think signal coverage will be an issue. As I understand it, the App logs IDs of phones within a pre-defined radius of you using Bluetooth, that data will then be sent to a central server once a data connection is established. It doesn't matter if you are in a signal blackspot, the data will be stored on your phone and transmitted when you get in signal range / wifi range.
Which doesn't help if the person stays in a blackspot for days or weeks! Like 14 days of self-isolation.
 

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my nokia 3310 will out last them all, and has tbh as still use it pmsl.

and the dwp is planning a mas sanction drive after lock down so that should double the dwp death rate flying up even faster.


and how does the dwp kill ppl well lets have a look.
DWP faces High Court challenge from family of 5-stone man who starved to death



  • 4,760 claimants died between the DWP referring their case to, and it returning from, an assessment provider.
  • 73,800 claimants died within 6 months of registering their claim.
  • 17,070 claimants died after registering but prior to the DWP making a decision on their claim.

cant see cov19 topping that dwp is the winner and that does not go on your death cert either cant have that can we killed buy the dwp on paper, not going to happen, just stick cov19 instead. :p

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im not old enough but did you have that crap blasting out the tv and radio back then 247 and a hole world lock down.

my mum did not know it even took place back then as had no tv or radio to use and lived in the middle of nowhere.

i think in 30 years time we will have eyes with built in retina vr displays nano tech blood 2 120ghz wifi antennas stuck on your head and a 1 megawatt battery shoved up ur ass, docking station sold separate.
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Barry Shittpeas

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Which doesn't help if the person stays in a blackspot for days or weeks! Like 14 days of self-isolation.
If you are isolating you won’t come into contact with anyone, so don’t need the App. It’s usefulness comes when you move about and come into close proximity with other people.
 
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Well you're right there sw I caught that Asian flu back in the 60's, horrible it was. But life just carried on, mind you we didn't have the internet or 5000 tv channels to see it all on in those days. The term 'Lock Down' didn't exist then, you just sat around feeling i'll and when it was gone after two or three weeks you just carried on.
When I had recovered I went round to see my mate who also had it and check how he was, Christ he was in a hell of a state swollen face the lot.
 
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Then you are out of the loop with this warning system. I’d buy a smartphone so that I could take part if I didn’t have one. In this situation, we need to give this technology a go.
I'm not going to spend a hundred quid plus on a phone and ongoing charges as well on something I can't use. Like many others I'm taking a stand against the blackmail that dictates what we buy, such as parking meter charges that can only be paid by phone and the smart meter swindle that is costing all of us at least £80 for something that doesn't work for huge numbers.

It would help if our pathetic governments ensured 100% 2G coverage to make smartphones and smart meters actually useful for everyone, rather than racing ahead with 4G and 5G for the fortunate.
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RossG

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That isn’t the NHSX Appp.
No that was some other thing Hancock was involved in which proved to be a failure.
I can't figure out why they chose the IOW to test this app, great if it works and great if you live in Ryde or Newport, but there's still many places over there tucked behind the hills that you can't pick up a TV signal from let alone 4 or 5g.
Considering I can see the IOW Rowridge TV antenna from my living room it's so high and I'm miles away that's really weird.
 
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oyster

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If you are isolating you won’t come into contact with anyone, so don’t need the App. It’s useless comes when you move about and come into close proximity with other people.
Nonsense.

I am well and decide to go out - maybe to buy food. I come home. I think I have covid-19. Indeed, I become very obviously ill, so am self-isolating. But the FACT of me being ill with covid-19 does not, cannot, be fed back into the system if my phone doesn't connect from home.
 

soundwave

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Well you're right there sw I caught that Asian flu back in the 60's, horrible it was. But life just carried on, mind you we didn't have the internet or 5000 tv channels to see it all on in those days. The term 'Lock Down' didn't exist then, you just sat around feeling i'll and when it was gone after two or three weeks you just carried on.
When I had recovered I went round to see my mate who also had it and check how he was, Christ he was in a hell of a state swollen face the lot.
so did you go to the doctor and what did they tell you back then?
 

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Seriously, what are you afraid of? If a large proportion of the population take this up, it could save a few lives. What's so bad about that?
I don't give a toss if GCHQ knows anything about me, because there's nothing to know.
I would however, be somewhat displeased if my data, given freely to "save lives and to save the NHS", ends up being sold to the likes of Cambridge Analytica in order to further enrich the Tory incompetents running the UK.
 
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