Brexit, for once some facts.

[soundwave]

what is the cause of death from cv19 ?



i must have drank 400000l of cider and vaped about 50kg of weed and i am not dead in 10 years on avg.

volcano works as good as new, made in Germany

money does grow on trees and tax free, you just need the skill to do it

why am i not dead ?

 

[Danidl]

I’m afraid you did say you did it. This is what you said:

Many of these athletes would have served as security details in Government labs ,on every continent.


Regardless, I think it highly unlikely that one of the competitors caused the outbreak.

Unlikely is not impossible... I have not been able to find how many visitors and guests of competitors were included ,but since the city of Wuhan organised 240,000 volunteer guides , translators etc, it must have been extensive.
At this point in time the suspects are..
1. Full natural evolution without any human intervention.
2. A leak from the P4 Lab near Wuhan
3. A leak from some other lab elsewhere on the planet
4. A deliberate "terrorist" action.

Basically nobody currently knows.
The proposition I presented #3 is as plausible as any of the others.
#1 is politically the safest option and is the no blame case
#4 invites WW3 , or Armageddon (which is Rapture territory)
# 2 , which some in the USA are now actively hinting invites a trade war with China .. note Pompeo reprised this one again today.

 

[oldgroaner]

Are you sure he didn`t mean Lavatory Guards, you know the type you find in Hull? !!

Unlike Northern Ireland we don't need to guard Lavatorys in Hull tommie as we don't have drunken idiots in Bowler hats doing noisy parades in fancy dress disturbing the peace.
And as a technical note a lavatory is in fact a wash basin, now why would anyone need to guard a wash basin?
You have some strange habits in the last of the colonies don't you?

 

[oldgroaner]

what is the cause of death from cv19 ?

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i must have drank 400000l of cider and vaped about 50kg of weed and i am not dead in 10 years on avg.

volcano works as good as new, made in Germany

money does grow on trees and tax free, you just need the skill to do it

why am i not dead ?

Let me guess
You failed in the attempt?
But don't let it discourage you, to keep trying for a Darwin Award

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Unlikely is not impossible... I have not been able to find how many visitors and guests of competitors were included ,but since the city of Wuhan organised 240,000 volunteer guides , translators etc, it must have been extensive.
At this point in time the suspects are..
1. Full natural evolution without any human intervention.
2. A leak from the P4 Lab near Wuhan
3. A leak from some other lab elsewhere on the planet
4. A deliberate "terrorist" action.

Basically nobody currently knows.
The proposition I presented #3 is as plausible as any of the others.
#1 is politically the safest option and is the no blame case
#4 invites WW3 , or Armageddon (which is Rapture territory)
# 2 , which some in the USA are now actively hinting invites a trade war with China .. note Pompeo reprised this one again today.

#1 This is the Chinamen eating bat pooh in Wuhan scenario. Quite possibly true.
#2 Carelessness at the Wuhan lab. Again, quite possibly true.
#3 Very doubtful, the centre of the outbreak would have been in that location, not Wuhan.
#4 Doubtful again, someone would have claimed it, resources needed.

# 5 I’m pleased to see that competitors at the Laboratory Guards Olympic Games has been dropped and hasn’t made it onto your list. That one always was a sack of ****.

This thing started in Wuhan and spread outwardly from there, so the two suspects are the virus laboratory located there or the Chinese’s filthy eating habits. In other words, China, so for the dirty little fuckers to be making jokes about it isn’t appropriate.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

I certainly wouldn't buy double-glazing from SAGE.

Public's trust in science at risk, warns former No 10 adviser

Ex-chief scientific adviser sets up rival panel of experts over Covid-19 ‘lack of transparency’
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King cited the government policy on face masks, which he said appeared to be politically convenient, but ran in contradiction to the best available evidence.

“There’s plenty of evidence to indicate that the wearing of face masks is a major help in reducing person-to-person viral transfer,” King said. “This is why it has become so much a part of the culture in South Asia.”

When Austria introduced a requirement to wear face masks in public, the incidence of Covid-19 “just collapsed around that one piece of advice”, he added.

“I wonder whether that decision, apparently by Sage … was driven by the necessity of not requiring it because we don’t have the face masks available in this country,” said King.

“That’s a political issue. My advice would always be that face masks are required and that if we don’t have them, you need to see we acquire them for the people at large.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/03/publics-trust-in-science-at-risk-warns-former-no-10-adviser

The government’s Scientific Advisors lost all credibility weeks ago. Johnson, Cummings & co are shoving promises of future title and favour up their arses and like windup monkeys, they are dancing a merry jig to whatever tune they play. Herd immunity, no herd immunity, no testing, testing, 2 metre distancing, no 2 metre distancing, no face masks, face masks, enough PPE, not enough PPE. The list of reverse ferrets goes on and on. It’s suddenly safe to return to work, for teachers to mix with hundreds of children, to go to cafés, shops, busses? Do you trust them?

These sudden and frequent 180 degree about turns aren’t as a result of “learning about the new and unknown virus” these are basic precautions which even the most retarded of idiots would class as blindingly obvious. Precautions which have been deployed and have a track record of success in other countries.

The clowns who flank government ministers at 5:00pm every evening aren’t to be trusted and they will cause you harm. They are a disgrace to their profession and should be struck off the medical register.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Unlike Northern Ireland we don't need to guard Lavatorys in Hull tommie as we don't have drunken idiots in Bowler hats doing noisy parades in fancy dress disturbing the peace.
And as a technical note a lavatory is in fact a wash basin, now why would anyone need to guard a wash basin?
You have some strange habits in the last of the colonies don't you?

‘We don’t have any toilets to guard in our nearest town. Within them, dirty men were engaging in ungentlemanly conduct with other gentlemen. Both toilets had to be demolished in order to stop the bumming. One site is now a flower bed and on the other stands a chocolatier’s shop.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

The papers are full of shite this morning. Boris Johnson is calling for a union of nations to work together in order to tackle the effects of Coronavirus. Is that a bit like the polar opposite of Brexit, which he keeps saying he wants to get done? Make your mind up you clusterfuck.

Next up are proposals for boarding queues of up to 1 km long in order to observe social distancing when getting on passenger aircraft. What about when you make it inside the confined aluminium tube with a shared recirculating air supply? Wouldn’t it be easier to get one of the 5:00 pm wind up monkeys to say it’s suddenly now safe to get on a plane and rub shoulders with hundreds of other people because Tory backers are leaning on us?

 

[daveboy]

I think the coal miners of Kent would have had a fair idea about hard work.

They got a bit of a shock when they moved to the Yorkshire coalfields in 1989 after Betteshanger closed....twice the production with half the men. Good Lads once we had re-trained them.

 

[oyster]

The papers are full of shite this morning. Boris Johnson is calling for a union of nations to work together in order to tackle the effects of Coronavirus. Is that a bit like the polar opposite of Brexit, which he keeps saying he wants to get done? Make your mind up you clusterfuck.

Next up are proposals for boarding queues of up to 1 km long in order to observe social distancing when getting on passenger aircraft. What about when you make it inside the confined aluminium tube with a shared recirculating air supply? Wouldn’t it be easier to get one of the 5:00 pm wind up monkeys to say it’s suddenly now safe to get on a plane and rub shoulders with hundreds of other people because Tory backers are leaning on us?

Can we join the European group of the union of nations to work together?

Maybe, allow people working together to travel freely and work in all the countries as needed?

They'll obviously have to work to the same technical standards...

Added:

Having the European Medicines Agency in the UK would have been a really major asset to help ensure funding and research and production. With lots being spent within the UK.

 

[oyster]

Despite many questions about the sense of any form of health passport, they are being promoted.

Wonderful how the technology discussed requires facial recognition - which is rather ineffective on people wearing masks.

And just how many tests would be required to ensure that health passports could have any meaningful validity? When people are travelling in trains and buses, even aircraft, together? My answer is an enormously greater number than the 100,000 that are so far not being achieved.

In smaller companies, the idea is a joke. You need someone on the reception desk (or security point) checking. And that person would themselves have to have been checked in by someone else... So possibly only effective in larger, 24-hour establishments.

Coronavirus UK: health passports 'possible in months'

Tech firm Onfido in talks with government about system to help Britons return to work

 

[oyster]

Really!
So why then did it first appear in Wuhan??

I continue to question whether it did first appear there.

Not that I currently have any evidence to the contrary. It might be "best guess", or "obvious", but I'll not be enormously surprised if we find out otherwise, in time.

 

[Danidl]

At this point in time the suspects are..
1. Full natural evolution without any human intervention.
2. A leak from the P4 Lab near Wuhan
3. A leak from some other lab elsewhere on the planet
4. A deliberate "terrorist" action.

Basically nobody currently knows.
The proposition I presented #3 is as plausible as any of the others.
#1 is politically the safest option and is the no blame case
#4 invites WW3 ,
# 2 , which some in the USA are now actively hinting invites a trade war with China .. note Pompeo reprised this one again today.

I continue to question whether it did first appear there.

Not that I currently have any evidence to the contrary. It might be "best guess", or "obvious", but I'll not be enormously surprised if we find out otherwise, in time.

 

[Danidl]

#1 This is the Chinamen eating bat pooh in Wuhan scenario. Quite possibly true.
#2 Carelessness at the Wuhan lab. Again, quite possibly true.
#3 Very doubtful, the centre of the outbreak would have been in that location, not Wuhan.
#4 Doubtful again, someone would have claimed it, resources needed.

# 5 I’m pleased to see that competitors at the Laboratory Guards Olympic Games has been dropped and hasn’t made it onto your list. That one always was a sack of ****.

This thing started in Wuhan and spread outwardly from there, so the two suspects are the virus laboratory located there or the Chinese’s filthy eating habits. In other words, China, so for the dirty little fuckers to be making jokes about it isn’t appropriate.

#3 is still the inadvertent importation of a virus from one of the tens of thousands of global visitors present at those military Games. If there could be carelessness as in #2 , why not in one of the many hundreds of bio science labs around the world?.. Or is your racism showing?
The organisation of the takeover of Hong Kong,and the Beijing Olympics shows that the yellow man is competent..and their suppression of the virus is even more proof.

 

[oyster]

I can’t see this as a credible scenario. If the virus was taken to Wuhan by a visitor, then there would have been an outbreak in the infected visitor’s country prior to Wuhan. That didn’t happen, so your theory remains a bag of old bollicks.

Not necessarily. Various possibilities such as that the final mutation which made it so bad occurred after being imported to Wuhan.

If we ever truly identify patient zero, we will be asking where did they get it from and why everyone round them didn't suffer.

I posted a while ago that back-tracking mutations suggests an origination in mid-September. (Might have changed since I saw and posted that.)

So why didn't the outbreak occur earlier?

If we find that factors such as vitamin D, B12, selenium, sunshine, genetic make-up, etc., are important, it seems feasible that some area of a country, probably out in the sticks, could have had quite a number of cases that have not yet been identified (at least, not published). Those people, by chance, just happened to be good for the factors which make it relatively mild or even symptomless. So there was no death rate to flag up the issue. The sparsity resulted in automatic self-isolation by those who felt crap.

I continue to see people utterly convinced that they had it earlier this year. Either they are wrong. Or there is another disease which has many similar symptoms - possibly influenza. People could have put down feeling bad to influenza what they actually had covid-19 or proto-covid-19.

Probably only when suitable testing becomes available will we approach the truth.

 

[oyster]

"Well I never!" time.

Russia and China are taking advantage of the coronavirus emergency to put their interests forward in Europe, US defence secretary Mark Esper claimed on Monday, according to a report by Reuters.

If the USA isn't also taking advantage the only reason would be incompetence.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

#3 is still the inadvertent importation of a virus from one of the tens of thousands of global visitors present at those military Games. If there could be carelessness as in #2 , why not in one of the many hundreds of bio science labs around the world?.. Or is your racism showing?
The organisation of the takeover of Hong Kong,and the Beijing Olympics shows that the yellow man is competent..and their suppression of the virus is even more proof.

It can’t have been imported because the outbreak would have started at the point the
person importing it to Wuhan originated from, or there would have been a simultaneous outbreak at that location. Neither happened which proves two things, #1 Your theory is incorrect and #2 You are a clown.

I won’t mention the Laboratory Guards Olympics

 

[Woosh]

It can’t have been imported because the outbreak would have started at the point the
person importing it to Wuhan originated from, or there would have been a simultaneous outbreak at that location.

sounds logical if SARS-COV-2 is a natural virus which is still unproven.
If the carrier is not aware of his/her role, the infection can be passed on to anyone within the 2M rule.
One way to figure it out is if the suspected carrier or patient 0 is tested positive for antibodies.

 

[oldgroaner]

Corniest Headline of the year!

 

[flecc]

It can’t have been imported because the outbreak would have started at the point the person importing it to Wuhan originated from, or there would have been a simultaneous outbreak at that location.

Perhaps there was. With most only suffering cold or flu like symptoms there could well have been without it being recognised as something new.

I'm still aware of how some died in San Francisco from a mysterious unrecognised illness that was later recognised to probably be aids. That was long before the USA announced that aids originated from monkeys in Africa and long before aids existed in Africa.

Put that together with President Kennedy's Peace Corps of young Americans who went to work as volunteers in Africa and all the pieces of the jigsaw are in place for the origins of a pandemic being politically moved.

I'm sure you well understand that there is no limit to human wickedness.
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