Brexit, for once some facts.

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The passenger numbers are down by 90% due to people working from home, so it would be foolish not to and risk more staff than necessary being at risk by being out.

It wouldn't surprise me if the main line trains get affected too, since their passenger numbers are well down too.
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The mainline services are already reduced. The Enterprise service. Belfast Dublin is significantly reduced. ..likewise all services in NI reduced. This creates major difficulties . There are essential services and they will collapse. The major hospital in NI for mid Ulster is in a very arkward location Portadown Craigavon . Nursing staff would regularly commute from Belfast, Newry to it. There is a major pharmaceutical company located there ,where my daughter is working. It will be impossible to sustain her there if service are further restricted. It would mean 6 hours of driving each day.
 
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The passenger numbers are down by 90% due to people working from home, so it would be foolish not to and risk more staff than necessary being at risk by being out.

It wouldn't surprise me if the main line trains get affected too, since their passenger numbers are well down too.
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The pictures and reports I’m seeing (LBC and BBC) indicate the tube trains are rammed full due to fewer services. Surely there should be more trains so the carriages are almost empty.

Some people still have to travel to carry out essential work. I think the Mayor has got this badly wrong, he’s helping to spread Coronavirus and risking lives.
 
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This should be happening right now
Sanjeev Silva, an ENT consultant & Nick Morris, obstetrics, have conducted feasibility study & written to Johnson & Hancock urging govt to act immediately. Remember: there has been no explanation for lack of mass testing, only known protocol to work

The Chinese moved to an even simpler test. In the earlier days .. Xrays . Covid creates fibrosis ..or scarring in the lung, whereas other illness are not so vicious.
 

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The pictures and reports I’m seeing (LBC and BBC) indicate the tube trains are rammed full due to fewer services. Surely there should be more trains so the carriages are almost empty.

Some people still have to travel to carry out essential work. I think the Mayor has got this badly wrong, he’s helping to spread Coronavirus and risking lives.
Agree.. How can so many people in the UK get so many things wrong so quickly?. Kahn seems to be otherwise a calm intelligent bloke.
 
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My tweet this morning

How long are we supposed to disinfect or quarantine any shopping we buy?

And you can call me "Captain Obvious"
 

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The pillock Mayor is on LBC now blaming the public for his poor decision. Just put more trains on the timetable you fool, the more sparsely populated each carriage is the better. He’s getting very political, putting politics ahead of lives.
 
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The pictures and reports I’m seeing (LBC and BBC) indicate the tube trains are rammed full due to fewer services. Surely there should be more trains so the carriages are almost empty.

Some people still have to travel to carry out essential work. I think the Mayor has got this badly wrong, he’s helping to spread Coronavirus and risking lives.
That's for the usual reasons, everyone travelling at the same time so crowded on the train at that time. The cuts are to the off peak trains and it wouldn't make any difference if they ran.

The only solution to this is if all existing work shifts are staggered, rather than being at the usual fixed times, creating peaks.
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That's for the usual reasons, everyone travelling at the same time so crowded on the train at that time. The cuts are to the off peak trains and it wouldn't make any difference if they ran.

The only solution to this is if all existing work shifts are staggered, rather than being at the usual fixed times, creating peaks.
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But the inescapable fact is that more available carriages would help. Reducing the number of available carriages at a time like this is criminal. The idiot is playing politics.
 

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The pillock Mayor is on LBC now blaming the public for his poor decision. Just put more trains on the timetable you fool, the more sparsely populated each carriage is the better. He’s getting very political, putting politics ahead of lives.
Please read what I just posted, it's you who is getting things wrong through not knowing the situation. As ever it's people's fixed job times and shifts that create the crowding.

That is where the solution exists, move job times so the offpeak trains can be run and used. There's only 10% of the usual passengers travelling, but all together and that is not their fault.
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Please read what I just posted, it's you who is getting things wrong through not knowing the situation. As ever it's people's fixed job times and shifts that create the crowding.

That is where the solution exists, move job times so the offpeak trains can be run and used. There's only 10% of the usual passengers travelling, but all together and that is not their fault.
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But why cut the service? Why? Ramp up the service until such measures as you suggest are in place.
People aren’t riding in Kahn’s Coronavirus culture dishes for fun! They are **** scared.
 

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But the inescapable fact is that more available carriages would help. Reducing the number of available carriages at a time like this is criminal. The idiot is playing politics.

Please think. He did not reduce the trains in advance, he reacted to the greatly reduced numbers by removing the empties.

Khan is a people and welfare person, if the work times are changed to spread the travel times of the 10% left travelling, he'll put the trains back immediately.

But of course that is not easy due to the co-ordination necessary, that will take all lot of time. Meanwhile, these hard working people who are already often working long hours will continue to be crowded together at the same times. Their days are long enough already without adding at least two more hours to travel at different times at each end of their day.
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Please think. He did not reduce the trains in advance, he reacted to the greatly reduced numbers by removing the empties.

Khan is a people and welfare person, if the work times are changed to spread the travel times of the 10%, he'll put the trains back immediately.

But of course that is not easy due to the co-ordination necessary, that will take all lot of time. Meanwhile, these hard working people who are already often working long hours will continue to be crowded together at the same times. Their days are long enough already without adding at least two more hours to travel at different times at each end of their day.
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But at least more, not less trains, as instigated by Kahn, would help.

If you move 100 people with one carriage, you have 100 people in one carriage. If you provide ten carriages, you have10 people per carriage (scale up or down as necessary). That has to be beneficial.
 
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But at least more, not less trains, as instigated by Kahn, would help.

If you move 100 people with one carriage, you have 100 people in one carriage. If you provide ten carriages, you have10 people per carriage (scale up or down as necessary). That has to be beneficial.
You still are not thinking, people travel according to their job times and they tend to be roughly the same traditional ones.

London's commuting times are very long, generally at least an hour each way, often much longer. So even with a shift of just 8 hours the minimum day is 10 hours, but for many much longer.

The only way to use extra trains is to start from home at least an hour earlier and set out to return at least an hour later, making a 14 hour day at least. And even that would only make a few extra trains used. The only way to use trains all day some people would have to leave home two hours earlier and add two hours at the end of their long day.

I know the realities since I commuted in London for the last 27 years of my working life by either car or public transport. The only way I had a consistent one hour commute was by setting out at least 2 hours before my working day start time. The evenings were usually worse. And this was to cover 14 miles!

It's got much tougher now. Since then London's population has grown by over 24% and the national population, which reflects the home counties which also feed in commuters, has grown by 16%.

And please also remember that the media will always be very ready to attack Sadiq Khan. He's both a Muslim and a Labour mayor, both often a cause for dislike in their eyes.
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You still are not thinking, people travel according to their job times and they tend to be roughly the same traditional ones.

London's commuting times are very long, generally at least an hour each way, often much longer. So even with a shift of just 8 hours the minimum day is 10 hours, but for many much longer.

The only way to use extra trains is to start from home at least an hour earlier and set out to return at least an hour later, making a 14 hour day at least. And even that would only make a few extra trains used. The only way to use trains all day some people would have to leave home two hours earlier and add two hours at the end of their long day.

I know the realities since I commuted in London for the last 27 years of my working life by either car or public transport. The only way I had a consistent one hour commute was by setting out at least 2 hours before my working day start time. The evenings were usually worse. And this was to cover 14 miles!

It's got much tougher now. Since then London's population has grown by over 24% and the national population, which reflects the home counties which also feed in commuters, has grown by 16%.

And please also remember that the media will always be very ready to attack Sadiq Khan. He's both a Muslim and a Labour mayor, both often a cause for dislike in their eyes.
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The interval between tube trains on the busiest lines has increased greatly, twenty minutes not being unusual. That results in densely packed platforms and densely packed carriages, more dense than on a pre-virus working day. If the trains ran at their pre cut-back frequency, this situation would be alleviated. Plus, because less people are travelling, the carriages would be less populated than usual, which is what’s needed.

I’ve not got this out of the Mail, I listened to Thd Mayor talking himself, live on LBC today.
 
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The Chinese moved to an even simpler test. In the earlier days .. Xrays . Covid creates fibrosis ..or scarring in the lung, whereas other illness are not so vicious.
MRIs seem to have an advantage - no radiation. (Don't think they need any contrast media which potentially has issues.)

The problem would be the lack of MRI capacity.
 
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Here's an image for Woosh

Panic buying Pandemic style on a Big Bear
Cat litter is almost as rare as toilet rolls in Hull, but my friend Keith who lives in a village called Preston said he knew where he could get some (and toilet rolls and frozen meals too) so we arranged to meet at the rather quaintly named village in between.
I was expecting a small bag but he is nothing if not ambitious and arrived on his bike with what was pretty damn near a lifetime supply strapped to the back.
So with full panniers and Santa's sack roped to the carrier I came back along the old disused railway line.
The bike handled surprisingly well, and I can definitely conform the 25 kilo rating stamped on the carrier as being modest.
On a historical note: the Viet Cong would have giver their eye teeth for an Ebike like this during the drubbing session they handed the Americans. :cool:

And I manged to combine shopping and exercise on a single outing
(the exercise being lifting that sack around!)

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oldgroaner

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MRIs seem to have an advantage - no radiation. (Don't think they need any contrast media which potentially has issues.)

The problem would be the lack of MRI capacity.
A quick precis of Government policy

I'll look to see if I have one gathering dust in the shed, who knows, I might get lucky
 

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Here's an image for Woosh

Panic buying Pandemic style on a Big Bear
Cat litter is almost as rare as toilet rolls in Hull, but my friend Keith who lives in a village called Preston said he knew where he could get some (and toilet rolls and frozen meals too) so we arranged to meet at the rather quaintly named village in between.
I was expecting a small bag but he is nothing if not ambitious and arrived on his bike with what was pretty damn near a lifetime supply strapped to the back.
So with full panniers and Santa's sack roped to the carrier I came back along the old disused railway line.
The bike handled surprisingly well, and I can definitely conform the 25 kilo rating stamped on the carrier as being modest.
On a historical note: the Viet Cong would have giver their eye teeth for an Ebike like this during the drubbing session they handed the Americans. :cool:

And I manged to combine shopping and exercise on a single outing
(the exercise being lifting that sack around!)

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Our pussycat rarely uses her litter tray - thankfully. She is pretty good at going out even in the rain and cold weather. Comes back quickly, but that's OK.
 
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That's not very nice of someone to call you a swine. Could there be a forum member on the local council?
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We do love evocative and romantic place names in Yorkshire! :cool:

For instance there is a new housing development in "Dagger Lane"
You have to be a good salesmen in the property market in Hull

If you want a good chippie you cant beat the village of Wetwang.
 
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