Brexit, for once some facts.

Barry Shittpeas

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Why didn't you read it?
"Charging for treatment , not limited to where there's a high number of Coronavirus cases"

That is clear enough for anybody
Yes, I agree now you’ve pointed it out. This Coronavirus highlights how important it is to feel that here is something there for everyone, if they need it.

I wouldn’t oppose changing drunken idiots clogging up A & E departments and abusing staff though. Or scum bags turning up on mass with their extended families and presenting minor ailments.
 
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I suspect it is in the quote .. "charging for treatment " , not confined to corona
I agree, they would love to change to the French system where the social security covers those who cannot afford to pay for the treatment, rather than everyone.
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I suspect it is in the quote .. "charging for treatment " , not confined to corona
That has to be the worst Boris lie of all that he would protect the NHS, this Monty Python sketch sums up their attitude
Note the practical assistance given.
 

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The lack of familiarity with metric measures in this country continues to amaze me after so many years of metric use.

I've just heard a woman newsreader on BBC Radio 4 say:

"two metres, the length of a car"

That is wildly misleading in the current circumstances.

Of course 2 metres is more like the width of most cars across the door mirrors, most cars are nearer to 4 metres long, often more.
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Is it reasonable, or not, to hop into the car and drive a few miles to a quiet car park overlooking the sea? Park well away from any other vehicles.

Only even considering getting out if no-one else is around.

Or is anyone doing that making it look as if we can go anywhere, do anything?
 

oyster

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The lack of familiarity with metric measures in this country continues to amaze me after so many years of metric use.

I've just heard a woman newsreader on BBC Radio 4 say:

"two metres, the length of a car"

That is wildly misleading in the current circumstances.

Of course 2 metres is more like the width of most cars across the door mirrors, most cars are nearer to 4 metres long, often more.
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It could, of course, be an English comprehension failure. :) If the person doesn't get the difference between length and width. I often find the meanings of height, width, depth, etc., mis-stated/mis-interpreted.

And the way they perpetuate Fahrenheit. Somehow, it is not hot at 27C but is at 80F so summer temperatures are almost always converted. But they almost never mention freezing point, 32F.
 

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Or is anyone doing that making it look as if we can go anywhere, do anything?
I still do some of the usual things: go to the post office, to the supermarkets (I have a face mask) but we did cross the street to walk on the other side when we see other pedetrians approaching.
 
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And the way they perpetuate Fahrenheit. Somehow, it is not hot at 27C but is at 80F so summer temperatures are almost always converted. But they almost never mention freezing point, 32F.
somehow, 80 F seems hotter than 27 C and zero C colder than 32 F.
must be our secret desire to make a bigger impression.
 
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she may mean one of these

It could, of course, be an English comprehension failure. :) If the person doesn't get the difference between length and width. I often find the meanings of height, width, depth, etc., mis-stated/mis-interpreted.

And the way they perpetuate Fahrenheit. Somehow, it is not hot at 27C but is at 80F so summer temperatures are almost always converted. But they almost never mention freezing point, 32F.
No, she's just corrected herself after the Beeb received a number of phone calls. She really had meant length and there was no doubting it when I heard her.
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And the way they perpetuate Fahrenheit. Somehow, it is not hot at 27C but is at 80F so summer temperatures are almost always converted. But they almost never mention freezing point, 32F.
somehow, 80 F seems hotter than 27 C and zero C colder than 32 F.
must be our secret desire to make a bigger impression.
I think the problem here is the USA sticking to Fahrenheit, we so often see that usage online. Looking a Met Office records can also keep Fahrenheit alive.
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I still do some of the usual things: go to the post office, to the supermarkets (I have a face mask) but we did cross the street to walk on the other side when we see other pedetrians approaching.
I tried to get a disposable face mask from Screwfix where they state on the website that they are limiting to five items per person.

But checking store stock showed that no store within many miles had any stock!

They were far from ideal anyway, most having relief valves.
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my flimsy mask was sent to me by my obliging Chinese factory sales manager has at least one advantage: it gives the impression of a mask but is in fact easy to breathe through.
 
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Is it reasonable, or not, to hop into the car and drive a few miles to a quiet car park overlooking the sea? Park well away from any other vehicles.

Only even considering getting out if no-one else is around.

Or is anyone doing that making it look as if we can go anywhere, do anything?
I think it is extremely reasonable to get out onto beaches or mountain paths .. just away from others. The attitude being displayed is just crazy and absurd. Likewise the closing of sports grounds, and streets . There is nothing wrong with kids out playing or cycling .. just not in packs.
Very disturbing is the decision of McDonald's and Subway to close from tonight. I understand the reason to stop admittance into the building, but the takeaway food could and should be available. It just requires protection for the cashier, and this can be achieved using a fan. What is being missed in this is that emergency services need these. Nurses coming off duty, Police on 12 hr shifts , Lorry drivers
 

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Has anyone noticed how the time gap politicians mention between where Italy is and where we will be is starting to come down? BJ said it was around 4 week a few days ago, then it was down to 3 weeks and the latest I heard it was 2 weeks.
This article sums up the opportunities that have been lost in the last couple of months.
 

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I think it is extremely reasonable to get out onto beaches or mountain paths .. just away from others. The attitude being displayed is just crazy and absurd. Likewise the closing of sports grounds, and streets . There is nothing wrong with kids out playing or cycling .. just not in packs.
Very disturbing is the decision of McDonald's and Subway to close from tonight. I understand the reason to stop admittance into the building, but the takeaway food could and should be available. It just requires protection for the cashier, and this can be achieved using a fan. What is being missed in this is that emergency services need these. Nurses coming off duty, Police on 12 hr shifts , Lorry drivers
We did go - and the sea was incredibly calm.

Our impression is that there are still rather more non-Welsh plated vehicles than usual - but that is based on our unscientific sampling in the past and today.

Came back and surprised to see McDonalds drive through still open. Checked at it is from 19:00 this evening.
 
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