Brexit, for once some facts.

Barry Shittpeas

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Very nice indeed. But of course you don't have all the large city conveniences and opportunities just behind you when you're there.

Best to own both!
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That’s true, but I don’t need anything that a city has to offer. I lead quite a simple life these days, running, walking, cycling, swimming and volunteering fills most of my days. I’ve seen enough action and excitement to fill several lifetimes over.

The biggest disadvantage that I face compared to you will be emergency medical assistance. I guess you would have help within minutes, whereas I’d be cold by the time an ambulance reached me. Maybe when I get older, I will need to attach more weight to this factor and move nearer to a populated area.
 

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That’s true, but I don’t need anything that a city has to offer. I lead quite a simple life these days, running, walking, cycling, swimming and volunteering fills most of my days. I’ve seen enough action and excitement to fill several lifetimes over.

The biggest disadvantage that I face compared to you will be emergency medical assistance. I guess you would have help within minutes, whereas I’d be cold by the time an ambulance reached me. Maybe when I get older, I will need to attach more weight to this factor and move nearer to a populated area.
We live quite close to a hospital with A&E (and a helipad). If it took ten minutes, that would be because they were driving slowly. :)

But, the local health board are proposing to close it. The replacement has not yet been decided - not the location nor anything else. Just that this is the plan.

Expected location would be about 17 miles/26 minutes (normal driving) away. But for those in the north and west of the county, and in the south west, the distance would be even further. And there really is only one road from this area so if anything happens on that road, it could be much longer.

Further, the expected location isn't much more than fields right now - certainly not a substantial town. Goodness knows how they will get staff and how those staff will commute.

Moving to be near a hospital might appear to make sense, but I have a horrible feeling that all too many hospitals will be closed or relocated.
 

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The biggest disadvantage that I face compared to you will be emergency medical assistance. I guess you would have help within minutes, whereas I’d be cold by the time an ambulance reached me. Maybe when I get older, I will need to attach more weight to this factor and move nearer to a populated area.
Not what you'd imagine, London Ambulance Service claim average response times of 7 minutes for category one emergencies, 18 minutes for category two. But I've witnessed 45 minutes and they never seem to get anywhere near their targets around here.

I recently watched a series about the Greater Manchester Service, where hours of delay were all too often the norm, even for old people collapsed to the floor and unable to move. And they were attending many evening emergency calls the next day!

The main advantages of my city location are in other services and retail. For example if I place an online order with Sainsburys, it's guaranteed to be delivered to my door within the hour. Tesco, Waitrose, Morrisons, Asda and Iceland do similar. The density of deliveries means courier service delivery time indications are usually very precise. DPD's daily delivery schedule for example is typically 90 or more drops, but none more the three miles from me. It's a very concentrated route all within two adjacent estates.

And the bus services are cheap and frequent with full London coverage, plus a bus-tram interchange nearby.
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And anyway, we do similar to the burka driving our cars with dark tinted windows, like mine:
My car has blacked out windows too. No need for a bike rack, I just open the back door and slide it in. 55 mpg so far for the first 2000 miles.
 
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Barry Shittpeas

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We live quite close to a hospital with A&E (and a helipad). If it took ten minutes, that would be because they were driving slowly. :)

But, the local health board are proposing to close it. The replacement has not yet been decided - not the location nor anything else. Just that this is the plan.

Expected location would be about 17 miles/26 minutes (normal driving) away. But for those in the north and west of the county, and in the south west, the distance would be even further. And there really is only one road from this area so if anything happens on that road, it could be much longer.

Further, the expected location isn't much more than fields right now - certainly not a substantial town. Goodness knows how they will get staff and how those staff will commute.

Moving to be near a hospital might appear to make sense, but I have a horrible feeling that all too many hospitals will be closed or relocated.
My nearest town has a community hospital which is about 15 years old. They are planning to build 6500 new houses in the town over the next ten years whilst simultaneously closing an entire ward at the hospital.
 
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To repeat: as International Trade Secretary Truss is now in charge of negotiating these insufficient, post-Brexit trade deals, that she said would be weaker than our current arrangements.

And it seems that 2016 Liz Truss was not wrong. The UK has so far only negotiated 20 post-Brexit trade deals, representing just 8% of overall UK trade. This is despite the fact we were promised 40 would have been negotiated by now.

As you can see, Truss was a Remainer before the referendum, but has now rapidly changed her political allegiance, for the benefit of her career. She’s a credit to our democracy.

Or someone else's more like :rolleyes:
 
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Barry Shittpeas

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To repeat: as International Trade Secretary Truss is now in charge of negotiating these insufficient, post-Brexit trade deals, that she said would be weaker than our current arrangements.

And it seems that 2016 Liz Truss was not wrong. The UK has so far only negotiated 20 post-Brexit trade deals, representing just 8% of overall UK trade. This is despite the fact we were promised 40 would have been negotiated by now.

As you can see, Truss was a Remainer before the referendum, but has now rapidly changed her political allegiance, for the benefit of her career. She’s a credit to our democracy.

Or someone else's more like :rolleyes:
I can’t remember the exact details but this creature either Co-authored or put her name to a book which describes British workers as the laziest and least productive in the world. Like she’s done a proper days work.
 

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Quite right! my converted Brompton usually rides in the boot and can ride on the Towball too!
What kind of conversion is it? I've a brompton I want to convert, but need exercise and want a torque sensor and all available conversions seem movement sensored
 

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Those USA trade negotiations are going really well:

Mike Pence hints UK's Huawei decision could jeopardise trade talks
Vice-president says US is ‘profoundly disappointed’ with Chinese firm’s 5G involvement
 
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Barry Shittpeas

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Not what you'd imagine, London Ambulance Service claim average response times of 7 minutes for category one emergencies, 18 minutes for category two. But I've witnessed 45 minutes and they never seem to get anywhere near their targets around here.

I recently watched a series about the Greater Manchester Service, where hours of delay were all too often the norm, even for old people collapsed to the floor and unable to move. And they were attending many evening emergency calls the next day!

The main advantages of my city location are in other services and retail. For example if I place an online order with Sainsburys, it's guaranteed to be delivered to my door within the hour. Tesco, Waitrose, Morrisons, Asda and Iceland do similar. The density of deliveries means courier service delivery time indications are usually very precise. DPD's daily delivery schedule for example is typically 90 or more drops, but none more the three miles from me. It's a very concentrated route all within two adjacent estates.

And the bus services are cheap and frequent with full London coverage, plus a bus-tram interchange nearby.
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It‘s worrying that we have the infrastructure to get a tin of beans to our doorstep within an hour of ordering, but if we need urgent medical attention, it can take many times longer. I don‘t call this progress, something has gone wrong.
 
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oyster

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It‘s worrying that we have the infrastructure to get a tin of beans to doorstep within an hour of ordering, but if we need urgent medical attention, it can take many time longer. I don‘t call this progress, something has gone wrong.
All too often, when something bad happens round here, we see that the injured person has been taken by air ambulance to Swansea or Cardiff. And I am very happy for that to be so. But be a little less badly hurt and you might have to wait ages to get to A&E, and then further in the queue at A&E. (Obviously, it isn't so much of an issue, more annoying and tedious, for the truly lesser injuries.)
 
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