Brexit, for once some facts.

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I bet there are already, and there's plenty of options.

Driving an e-car brings a different mindset. Where on petrol or diesel we typically drive until going low and then fill, with e-cars we will commonly do a quick top up at an interim stage of the journey if there's any hint of marginality for the whole trip before setting out.

Eventually that different mindset will apply to ic cars. Filling stations for them are already down to below 6000 in the UK, having been around 10,000 at one time. In some rural areas they are already very far apart.
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My wife drove petrol cars for local trips for years and never filled more than half the tank. I, of course, had to set out on rescue missions occasionally when she ran out of fuel. I told her that if she must use half a tank at a time make it the top half.
Since getting her Leaf nearly 4 years ago she now uses our home charger at least every other day despite only travelling about 10 miles a day, so owning an ev definitely changed her mindset.
 

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Ditto, and I may well beat you to it, since I'm in my 84th year.

I bought my new Leaf in 2018, fully expecting it to be my last car. I knew back then that waiting three years would give a far larger choice of e-cars, but my time to enjoy owning one was fast running out!
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Its funny but the first realisation of ageing (apart from feeling old and creaky in the morning) happened to me just last year. I lost my old dog and after 17y it was a terrible wrench. I always go out next day and get another but this time round I had to look at the reality of taking on a pup that would most likely live toward the end of my very active days. (its not that bad really, I'm just 60) but taking an older rescue dog was more sensible. She's a brilliant gun dog.. she's the first dog I haven't trained myself and she's definitely the best trained dog I've had :)

Its easy to say electric vehicles are impractical, whilst for many they certainly still are but things should improve over the next years. A neighbour ran a leaf for a few years and fairly recently swapped to an Ionique (sp?) and he says they work out well for him *but* he says he rarely leaves the island, has off street parking, he lives next door to a small general store and is many years retired. It made me smile as he told me if he needs to go as far as Llandudno (50 mile round trip) he just takes his diesel camper van.
 
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The Nissan NV200 e-van was converted to use exactly what my new Leaf car has. Same drive system and battery, hence the big leap in range and performance, 40% more power and a similar gain in range.

Bringing out an NV200 Sport using what's in the limited edition Leaf e-plus would be fun. 100% more power, 7 seconds 0 to 62 mph and a 220 mile range!
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Just looking at the Combi version (quite expensive at the top end). Had to laugh at this bit of the description:
Colour reversing camera
I imagined a yellow sky, blue sun, ...
 
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My wife drove petrol cars for local trips for years and never filled more than half the tank. I, of course, had to set out on rescue missions occasionally when she ran out of fuel. I told her that if she must use half a tank at a time make it the top half.
Since getting her Leaf nearly 4 years ago she now uses our home charger at least every other day despite only travelling about 10 miles a day, so owning an ev definitely changed her mindset.
I've never considered myself a lucky person, but where running out of fuel is concerned, I'm the luckiest person on earth.

A few years into my earlier driving my car engine spluttered and stopped as I was driving and a glance down at the fuel gauge showed I'd run out. I turned the steering wheel and rolled to a halt alongside a pump at a fuel station!

But that wasn't the amazing thing. A few years later I ran out again in a different place with a different car, but once again steered straight into a petrol station that was just in front and rolled to a vacant pump!!

I never ran out of fuel again, I wouldn't dare push my luck that much! :)
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I suspect your last car will be a black stretched Volvo estate with a casket deck in the back.
Afraid not, I already know it will be a black transit size van.

My disposal is already set up. When I die the body will be picked up and taken to any crematorium of the company's choice.

I've never wanted a funeral or service since they are irrational.
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I know my (petrol) car progressively shuts things down - the longer it is left, the more is shut down. Never really taken much notice of exactly what but sometimes, after it has not been used for several days, things start up differently. I take that as evidence of it having reduced its battery usage. So far, never left it unused for as long as weeks.
Solar panel needed. Cures problem.
 

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Solar panel needed. Cures problem.
Not so you would think. The majority of e cars will be away from home, during the day, returning to the nest at nightfall. Now there is a value in that daytime photovoltaic electricity is sold on to the utilities at a premium,whereas the night rate electricity is at a discount rate.
If the question related to petrol cars, yes Halfords and Maplin sold small PV panels for leaving under the windscreen and producing 10 watts peak or 40 watt hrs per day,under ideal conditions. Would only be sufficient to power the burglar alarm and camera
 
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Not so you would think. The majority of e cars will be away from home, during the day, returning to the nest at nightfall. Now there is a value in that daytime photovoltaic electricity is sold on to the utilities at a premium,whereas the night rate electricity is at a discount rate.
If the question related to petrol cars, yes Halfords and Maplin sold small PV panels for leaving under the windscreen and producing 10 watts peak or 40 watt hrs per day,under ideal conditions. Would only be sufficient to power the burglar alarm and camera
I really don't have a problem! It was just an observation that my car tries to look after itself. It has never given any indication of being difficult to start or negatively affected. :) (So far...)
 
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Good news for Brexit believers o_O

You just need to have FAITH , though stupidity will do very nicely as a substitute.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/climate-emergency-matt-hancock-flights-electric-planes-flybe-a9284111.html

Climate emergency: 'Carry on flying,' insists health secretary - denying sacrifices necessary to save planet

Matt Hancock says electric planes will cut carbon emissions – then admits he has no idea when they can be brought in

The health secretary says the public can carry on flying as often as before despite the climate emergency, rejecting the idea of “sacrifices” to save the planet.

Matt Hancock said the solution was greener planes, such as those powered by electricity – although he admitted he did not know when they could be introduced.
Asked if people should be “flying less” because of the “climate catastrophe” – following the controversial bail-out of Flybe – he replied: “Nope”.
And, asked if he would fly from London to Aberdeen, Mr Hancock said: “Yes of course it that’s necessary.....if I needed to get to Aberdeen and I didn’t have time to take the train.”
The comments come amid growing criticism of the government for signalling it will cut air taxes to rescue Flybe, while claiming it can still hit its climate targets.

"Climate targets?
They're more of a guideline really,
"We're Conservatives aren't we?
It's not as if everyone doesn't know we always lie about everything
we promise to do !"
And BA owner (IAG) says "Stop!":

The owner of British Airways has filed an official complaint to the European commission about the bailout of the regional airline Flybe, amid growing political and industry criticism of the government’s rescue deal.
 
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I really don't have a problem! It was just an observation that my car tries to look after itself. It has never given any indication of being difficult to start or negatively affected. :) (So far...)
My Peugeot will start stopping services after abut 15 minutes of the engine being turned off.. Diesels need s lot of cranking power. Services like headlights, radio, phone charger.
 
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Solar panel needed. Cures problem.
Trickle charter solar panels for caravans are the answer to that
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Waterproof-Automotive-Motorcycle-Powersports-Snowmobile/dp/B07DFD3RMS/ref=asc_df_B07DFD3RMS/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=218093857332&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11456536000024313660&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006816&hvtargid=pla-527738708323&psc=1

But not much use if the car is kept in a Garage of course (though you could get around that) In my case the caravan on a storage site so they are ideal
 
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Care in the community (use of private care homes) came about as the Tories (Thatcher era) took the idea of shutting down large state run institutions and farming out folk to be looked after in privately owned and run care homes. In terms of folk with learning difficulties it was revolutionary to the asylums that preceded it, and was originally a Scandanavian philisophical approach basically caring for the person as an individual. For tories it equalled free market opportunity and kerching £££££....

So profits are likely spent on nice new shiney cars, new homes, holdidays / shareholder dividends.

One learning difficulties residential home I worked at ) couple of decades ago) the owners / management used to fiddle rotas as some clients with challenging behaviour meant that they were paid to provide higher staff ratios - did they heck. And so had two sets of rotas with one to show inspectors ...

Other fiddles were management using blue badge parking badges, even when not transporting clients. Friday client choice fish & night supper, which clients paid out of their own money when home was paid to feed em 24/7 , and many other fiddles.

When I left a long letter was written to Social Services about what was going on dobbing on the abuses going on. All that happened afterwads was that care home changed its name.

Just looked up online reviews and had to laugh



LP - was a resident and certainly not capable of using the internet let alone write a review
MA - Many moons ago was the handyman
EB - no idea
CD - She was the manager when I worked there!
Some of the state / NHS “care homes” in the 1970s were terrible. I remember visiting my grandfather, a WW1 Passchendaele veteran, in a place called The Manor in Derby during 1974. He’d had a stroke and was shipped off to The Manor to die, because in the eyes of those who should have provided adequate medical care for him, the stroke had rendered him a useless lump, absorbing the state pension. The building was a huge, dimly lit Victorian place with massive wards full of dying old men who spent virtually 24 hours a day in bed crying. I was 12 at the time and I’ve hated government and state ever since. It was a good lesson in reinforcing the idea that no one in power really cares about us.

The modern care home, with all of its faults, is far better than places like The Manor.

The problem with the care system today is that it’s run for money. Wherever there is money, greed is inevitable. A lot lot of money is never enough money, so fees become ridiculous, and each staff member has more residents to care, so quality falls. If ever an industry needed nationalising, it’s the care home industry, and it should be the first. They will never fix it unless they do.
 
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The Comedy continues in the Express
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Brexiteers left furious as ministers say Remainer plot responsible for silencing Big Ben
SENIOR ministers are blaming a Remainer plot among parliamentary chiefs for silencing Big Ben on Brexit night, the Daily Express has learned.

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And in the Guardian
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Food security plan after Brexit: biggest shake up to farming in 40 years

Bill requires regular monitoring of supplies and shift from CAP-style subsidies but no gate on lower quality imports
The revision is one of a handful to the agriculture bill, introduced to parliament on Thursday more than a year after the previous government was forced to abandon the legislation amid Brexit turmoil.

Other changes include a stronger emphasis on the soil, at risk from overuse, erosion and nutrient loss; farmers are to receive help maintaining healthy soils, as well as with improvements to the tracing of livestock movements between farms. There will be powers to regulate fertiliser use and organic farming after Brexit.

Missing from the bill is a binding commitment to prevent trade deals allowing the import of food produced to lower standards than those to which British farmers must adhere. This has been a key demand of farmers concerned that after Brexit they will be undercut by cheap imports from the US and Asia, with lower food safety and animal welfare regulations.

Broken promises again!
 

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The Comedy continues in the Express
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Brexiteers left furious as ministers say Remainer plot responsible for silencing Big Ben
SENIOR ministers are blaming a Remainer plot among parliamentary chiefs for silencing Big Ben on Brexit night, the Daily Express has learned.

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Note that the paper has learned the ministers are blaming... NOT that there really is a such a plot!

And, even if there were, they (two PMs and an HoC) have had plenty of time to do something about it.

Prime Minister Theresa May has said "it can't be right" that the famous bongs will not be heard again until 2021 and has asked for the proposals to be reviewed.

The House of Commons has said it will look again at the length of time Big Ben will be silenced after "concerns" were raised.

 
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The Comedy continues in the Express
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Brexiteers left furious as ministers say Remainer plot responsible for silencing Big Ben
SENIOR ministers are blaming a Remainer plot among parliamentary chiefs for silencing Big Ben on Brexit night, the Daily Express has learned.

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Even the Telegraph says:
Politics latest news: Downing Street pulls plug on Big Ben Brexit bongs

And that is after Andrea Leadsom signed up to donate £10. As for me, I can't help thinking of this:

Stop all the clocks, cut off the telephone,
Prevent the dog from barking with a juicy bone,
Silence the pianos and with muffled drum
Bring out the coffin, let the mourners come.
 
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