Brexit, for once some facts.

Danidl

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Nazi! Take your 'shoulds' and - well you can imagine.
I agree with you on this one. What the BBC might have done is accurately reported what the PM had said, during the election campaign and then added each and every time. But he has declined to be interviewed on this topic.
 

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There was a time when the word byte did not strictly refer to 8 bits. So the word octal would not have been appropriate (assuming it does retain the meaning associated with its root).
Who is being obtruse. ?. The 8 binary character sequence is unequivocally an octal..which is what the French have chosen. So they will measure data rates in ko etc.
 
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Who is being obtruse. ?. The 8 binary character sequence is unequivocally an octal..which is what the French have chosen. So they will measure data rates in ko etc.
But I remember working with 6 bit characters which, under some circumstances, were referred to as bytes.

And we do use the term octet quite widely. I have always considered a byte to be aligned whereas an octet could, at least in principle, refer to any sequence of eight bits of arbitrary alignment.
 

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I have to disagree with that since the "word blindness" is most obvious in seeing the written word, any phonetic interpretive element being minor. The attempts in recent decades to teach English phonetically are demonstrably very unsuccessful as today's texting shows. All it's achieving is the loss of our language's richness and versatility, both very undesirable.

In my long life it's been most apparent that dyslexia is directly related to the reduction of educational discipline, this lead by the English speaking nations. Dyslexia was scarcely apparent when I was young when any sign of it was painfully dealt with. The same with poor spelling, corporal punishment being used even at all primary levels.

That doesn't mean I advocate beating children, it just means we have to correctly identify causes and create appropriate corrections, rather than constantly invent new terms for imaginary conditions and accept they exist.
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It is a diversion from Brexit, but I am not sure I fully agree. In my early school days, there were class sizes of 45 plus. Any children with serious learning difficulties were just ignored . There were employment options for many.. as cannon fodder , a delivery lads, door men, porters . Universal literacy is extremely modern. Now a person cannot use use any technology without functional ability with the alphabet.
 

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I agree with you on this one. What the BBC might have done is accurately reported what the PM had said, during the election campaign and then added each and every time. But he has declined to be interviewed on this topic.
No, Boris Johnson has been dodging the probing in depth interviews and interviewers, choosing instead to opt for the soft touches such as Holly Willbooobies. If he’s going to use the media to promote himself, ie the BBC as his promotion machine, the BBC should decide who does the interviewing, not Boris Johnson. Corby agreed to be interviewed by Andrew Neil, so why was Johnson allowed to refuse and choose a “softer” interviewer?

I’m confident you’ll have a nonsense answer that goes off at a complete tangent ready to fire out of your backside.
 
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all the more reason to resist this form of assimilation and monoculture.
I very strongly disagree.

Language is the one thing the human race should absolutely have in common in a globalised world of high level communications.
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I very strongly disagree.

Language is the one thing the human race should absolutely have in common in a globalised world of high level communications.
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So we could be divided by a common language...
 

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It is a diversion from Brexit, but I am not sure I fully agree. In my early school days, there were class sizes of 45 plus. Any children with serious learning difficulties were just ignored . There were employment options for many.. as cannon fodder , a delivery lads, door men, porters . Universal literacy is extremely modern. Now a person cannot use use any technology without functional ability with the alphabet.
My primary classes at around 35 didn't quite reach that size and failings were promptly and painfully dealt with via a strong wack with a ruler. Whether in London or Devon, everyone in the classes was sufficiently literate and spelling standards far surpassed those with today's modern teaching methods. However at nearly 84 I predate you by quite a few years.

Those low grade employment options still exist today and always will, too much rubbish is spoken about everyone today needing high educational levels. The bins still need to be emptied, the roads repaired, the bricks laid, the recycled refuse sorted, the clogged sewers and drains dug out. Any incidental associated technology is easily handled by one slightly literate person in a crew.
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So we could be divided by a common language...
It's said that we and the Americans are, but that simply isn't true. They mostly speak correct English, we speak a modernised and often incorrect form, but we still fully understand each other.
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But I remember working with 6 bit characters which, under some circumstances, were referred to as bytes.

And we do use the term octet quite widely. I have always considered a byte to be aligned whereas an octet could, at least in principle, refer to any sequence of eight bits of arbitrary alignment.
..now see the ambiguity. The French is precise. They would .. (probably ) have used duo, tribit etc had they been in use
 

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My primary classes at around 35 didn't quite reach that size and failings were promptly and painfully dealt with via a strong wack with a ruler. Whether in London or Devon, everyone in the classes was sufficiently literate and spelling standards far surpassed those with today's modern teaching methods. However at nearly 84 I predate you by quite a few years.

Those low grade employment options still exist today and always will, too much rubbish is spoken about everyone today needing high educational levels. The bins still need to be emptied, the roads repaired, the bricks laid, the recycled refuse sorted, the clogged sewers and drains dug out. Any incidental associated technology is easily handled by one slightly literate person in a crew.
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Flecc..I think rose tinted nostalgia might be occurring... ( Not the bit about the ruler..I was there also), but classes were routinely streamed, particularly post primary,but often in primary school.
Even worse,those types of jobs, while they may need to be done,are being either automated away,or require certification to do.
 
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Even worse,those types of jobs, while they may need to be done,are being either automated away,or require certification to do.
I would have thought automation reduces the requirement for training thus making those jobs (working on automated production lines) more accessible.
 
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Humorous article in the Express toay
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Ministers ‘terrified’ as Dominic Cummings plans ‘Valentine’s massacre’ for civil service
MINISTERS fear a ‘Valentine’s massacre’ in the new year as Dominic Cummings plots ambitious reforms to the Government and civil service according to reports.

What happened to Parliament "Taking back control"?
He's their man isn't he?

Can't wait to see what a balls up he makes FOR THEM
This is where the rot begins for the Tory party.
 
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In the Guardian
"Johnson visit to Lebedev party after victory odd move for 'people's PM'
PM mingled with Russian elite amid claims of Moscow interference in UK politics
 

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