Brexit, for once some facts.

[flecc]

FIRE SALE EVERYTHING MUST GO.

Boris Johnson has defended the controversial £4bn takeover of UK defence and aerospace company Cobham by a US private equity firm.

World leaders in air to air refuelling technology. Gone.

Apparently they had to be sold to rescue them from bankruptcy. As good as they were technically, they made some very poor commercial decisions in buying a number of other companies.

The asset stripper who is buying them will sell those off of course.
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[flecc]

Thanks flecc you obviously have an encyclopedic knowledge in your chosen specialities!

In the days when the Natural History Museum ran a website for the public wanting to know what something was, I was one of a small group of their volunteer species identifier experts.

However my specialities were among small arthropods, particularly many classes of small insects, arachnids and true bugs.

The fungi interest is a sideline since in retirement I conduct fungi walks for the public in my area.
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[oldgroaner]

Apparently they had to be sold to rescue them from bankruptcy. As good as they were technically, they made some very poor commercial decisions in buying a number of other companies.

The asset stripper who is buying them will sell those off of course.
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And the 10,000 workforce?

 

[oldgroaner]

In the days when the Natural History Museum ran a website for the public wanting to know what something was, I was one of a small group of their volunteer species identifier experts.

However my specialities were among small arthropods, particularly many classes of small insects, arachnids and true bugs.

The fungi interest is a sideline since in retirement I conduct fungi walks for the public in my area.
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Fascinating! alas my time is rather restricted for obvious reasons, that sounds pretty good to me
I usually manage two rides of around three quarters of an hour each day (weather permitting) while the wife is sleeping to relieve her cluster headaches .
It makes all the difference.

 

[flecc]

And the 10,000 workforce?

The victims of the bad commercial decisions, as ever.

But probably only temporarily, since the need for them and their specialised knowledge still exists and will probably be increasing with our purchases of the F35.
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[50Hertz]

Apparently they had to be sold to rescue them from bankruptcy. As good as they were technically, they made some very poor commercial decisions in buying a number of other companies.

The asset stripper who is buying them will sell those off of course.
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I had experience of an airborne encrypted radio set. It was actually marketed under the name of Chelton, one of Cobhams acquisitions. The radio’s control head sat in the flight instrument panel and the guts of the radio inside one of the wings. The two communicated via a piece of software running under Windows CE operating system. The reliability was shocking to the point of it being dangerous with frequent software locks and coms drop outs. They never did sort it out. In the end Chelton just walked away from the product saying they couldn’t make it work. As blunt as that.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

‘It’s a valid question. I think that if you went to live in France for example, you would want to return to England pretty quickly.

I speak from first hand experience when I say their general food shopping is appalling. supermarkets smell unclean and i believe the food they sell is of a lower quality than that in the U.K. Their retail after sales is shoddy, particularly technology and electrical good, and if a product develops a fault within warranty, it’s standard practice to give you the FO. They literally laugh at the European Consumer rights legislation. I’m talking about the Equivalent of Curys & John Lewis here as well as small independents.

French government departments, health care, law, social care are all hostile. They will refuse point blank to converse in English or to provide any form of interpretation.

If you went to France, you’d be back here within six months asking to live in Boris’s Brexit Land. You’d do that because it’s better here when you are a needy and vulnerable person. They all return when they reach that stage, because we look after people better here.

It’s just a case of the grass is always greener. It certainly is not in France.

You won’t find OG heading there anytime soon. He knows which side his bread is buttered.

What an odd comment. Have you been to languedoc or Provence recently. Or, why stick to france, puglia or Napoli. You appear to have very narrow horizons, and I dont mean geographically. And what you say about french food supermarkets and technology is utter bs.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

I had experience of an airborne encrypted radio set. It was actually marketed under the name of Chelton, one of Cobhams acquisitions. The radio’s control head sat in the flight instrument panel and the guts of the radio inside one of the wings. The two communicated via a piece of software running under Windows CE operating system. The reliability was shocking to the point of it being dangerous with frequent software locks and coms drop outs. They never did sort it out. In the end Chelton just walked away from the product saying they couldn’t make it work. As blunt as that.

Well cobhams has been taken over by private equity endorsed by boris, your flaccid hero.

 

[50Hertz]

What an odd comment. Have you been to languedoc or Provence recently. Or, why stick to france, puglia or Napoli. You appear to have very narrow horizons, and I dont mean geographically. And what you say about french food supermarkets and technology is utter bs.

Again, this all depends on your own personal standards and reference points, ie what you are comparing it to. I find French supermarkets are adequate when compared to Heron Foods for example.

 

[oldgroaner]

In the Express this moring
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Oh dear, Brussels! Boris has ALREADY outsmarted EU negotiators, reveals BBC's Kuenssberg
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Who owns Kuenssberg?

So lets see a nation that relies for 50% of its trade with the EU restricts it's time for manouver to one year in discussions with the EU that has 10% of it's trade with it , and during that time can easily shift that trade internally or among forty plus trade deals.
Whereas we have how many?

I suspect that in fact Boris has outsmarted his self, and is reliant on the EU being charitable, he has to hope the EU doesn't want to punish the majority of British voters who don't want Brexit anyway.

 

[Nev]

And what you say about french food supermarkets and technology is utter bs.

50Hz is not exactly a fan of the French and that's putting it mildly. I tend to take what he says about them with a rather large pinch of salt.

I would quite like to see him trapped on a French speaking island for a month having to share a house with Laura Kuenssburg and Nicola Sturgeon. He would come back from it a far better man!!!!!

 

[oldgroaner]

Well cobhams has been taken over by private equity endorsed by boris, your flaccid hero.

And if Defence technology contractors are up for grabs we can kiss the NHS goodbye, nothing is sacred.
He'll be selling BAE systems next

 

[OxygenJames]

OJ will say easy for someone with the brain of a pigeon.

OG I do not doubt for one moment that you have a perfectly good sized brain.

It's the way you use it that I question.

 

[OxygenJames]

And if Defence technology contractors are up for grabs we can kiss the NHS goodbye, nothing is sacred.
He'll be selling BAE systems next

Hmmmm. I hope you've allocated some time today to start getting your painting stuff out of the cupboard and back into use. And not spend all of your time ranting with people here.

Jus' sayin'.

 

[50Hertz]

Well cobhams has been taken over by private equity endorsed by boris, your flaccid hero.

I posted that information yesterday. For god’s sake, keep up man!

 

[50Hertz]

What an odd comment. Have you been to languedoc or Provence recently. Or, why stick to france, puglia or Napoli. You appear to have very narrow horizons, and I dont mean geographically. And what you say about french food supermarkets and technology is utter bs.

Ooo, you’re such a cosmopolitan little parsnip aren’t you?

 

[50Hertz]

50Hz is not exactly a fan of the French and that's putting it mildly. I tend to take what he says about them with a rather large pinch of salt.

I would quite like to see him trapped on a French speaking island for a month having to share a house with Laura Kuenssburg and Nicola Sturgeon. He would come back from it a far better man!!!!!

I quite like Laura. No fan of The Tiny Scottish Idiot Woman though.

 

[50Hertz]

In the Express this moring
"
Oh dear, Brussels! Boris has ALREADY outsmarted EU negotiators, reveals BBC's Kuenssberg
"

Who owns Kuenssberg?

So lets see a nation that relies for 50% of its trade with the EU restricts it's time for manouver to one year in discussions with the EU that has 10% of it's trade with it , and during that time can easily shift that trade internally or among forty plus trade deals.
Whereas we have how many?

I suspect that in fact Boris has outsmarted his self, and is reliant on the EU being charitable, he has to hope the EU doesn't want to punish the majority of British voters who don't want Brexit anyway.

Kuenssberg and other journalists have to be careful how they report things. If they upset either political party, they can be excluded from briefings, press releases and a whole host of other information. Without that sort of access, their career is over, no job, end of. To try and be impartial and report what is happening without upsetting the political parties is a difficult line to tread. The politicians are dictating the terms to the news sources, and it should be the other way around. Johnson should have been told by the BBC that he was doing the Andrew Neil interview or they would not facilitate any further opportunity to get his message across.

 

[Woosh]

They will refuse point blank to converse in English or to provide any form of interpretation.

if you want to settle in France, reading and writing skills in French are as important as for a Frenchman wanting to settle in the UK.
My wife who is fairly fluent in Spanish encourages me to learn Spanish because we holiday often in Spain.

 

[50Hertz]

if you want to settle in France, reading and writing skills in French are as important as for a Frenchman wanting to settle in the UK.
My wife who is fairly fluent in Spanish encourages me to learn Spanish because we holiday often in Spain.

They are deliberately difficult even when you speak French. Particularly with regards to technical language and medical terms. French is a ridiculous & limited language anyway, they don’t have enough words to cope with the modern world. It’s time it was scrapped in favour of a versatile language such as English.