Brexit, for once some facts.
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Yes you would, it makes you question the wisdom of some voters doesn't it? but that doesn't mean they will be easy to dupe forever, and it means their expectations are a big liability when you want a no deal Brexit.
More of a millstone round your neck than something to crow about.
Great, isn't it?
The best way to cure Brexit forever is to inflict it on the people, carry on!
Brexit is a divorce, and the best way to punish a man who has stolen your wife they do say.
Is to let him keep her
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Another will take Labour's Place
When you think about it an 80 seat majority means we have a one party state, and a group of ticket holding spectators sat opposite.
If they had any sense they would simply do a "Farage" and not bother turning up for work, after all their presence is only adding legitimacy to a system where the majority of voters didn't vote for the Conservatives, and there could be a big saving on expenses wasted for no good reason
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I hear this a lot from the left. Similar views were expressed when Trump won.
Strangely, the system is never called into question when it spits out an Obama or other left leaning victory.
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Its galling when situation is constructed by left, unless ofcourse media, Murdock and co put Corbyn and McCluskey in power.
The left taking over Labour party has been a godsend for Tories.
There is a story that during WW2 Americans planned to assasinate Hitler. Churchill stopped it. He wanted Hitler in charge, not Doetnitz.??? Might be made up but the premise works. Whilst left runs Labour they arent a threat.????
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Not so. Socialism is a choice which should remain in place. Your "new visions" should be represented by other names rather than corrupting the language meaning.
As I posted earlier, it doesn't matter if a socialist government never gets into power since that merely highlights what is wrong with our voting system. We need proportional representation in order to represent all our views, including the socialist ones.
Of course the Tories hate and fear that idea, little wonder when the bias of the present system tends to keep out all others in our predominantly small "c" conservative country.
That's fine though, you can just continue to watch this country dwindle into obscurity.
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No, actually all we need is a real Labour party, one that does not expell its most gifted members for pointing out the errors they are making.
Except it has, more than once since.
Mark Duggan and Jermaine Baker. It was Mark's death that triggered the Tottenham and subsequent riots.
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As opposed to the Tory party that expels not one, like Labour, but 25 for doing the same thing.
How tolerant. And you call Corbyn's Labour party extreme.
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Difference is though Flecc Tory party didnt expel Cummings, Labour did the equivalent.
Besides, Boris's methods have worked, Corbyn's didnt.
There is no such thing as "a trade deal".
They are always in many parts which take a long time to set up. Even with little Switzerland the "deal" was in fact 120 separate trade deals which took 7 years to set up. Canada's with the USA took 5 years.
The notion that we will have all this wrapped up by December next is ludicrous.
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Similar timescale to Labour being electable? Well, no actually way things are going thats never going to happen. Current criteria for next leader? A woman from outside London.....That should do it.
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Best tell the Tories, they banished 25, not 1 dissenter.
Anyway, you're quoting a Russian owned, Tory edited newspaper!
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Ha. Very funny. Not heard that one before.the best way to punish a man who has stolen your wife they do say.
Is to let him keep her
Not so. If you were correct, socialism should stay as defined by Marx and Engels
from various dictionaries:
(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
even if one moves forward a century, one get closer to Labour clause IV:
20th century definition:
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
My definition which is close to new labour:
socialism is a set of policies to deliver social justice to [blue collar] workers.
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should I understand that the miniature in your reply was the 13 years with New Labour?
But in theory only, since we know that even though it is seriously defective, capitalism will never be overthrown, as China and Russia show only too well today.
So what modern socialism could achieve is a blend of the ideals of Marx and Engels and capitalism, a compromise to give greater social fairness.
Capitalism alone is a one way street to Singapore.
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