Brexit, for once some facts.
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One of good aspects is Boris wont need all the ERG to get stuff through. Could mean a softer Brexit. Perhaps the real BJ will now emerge. Lets hope its rather different.
you are hair splitting.
I accept that some tory voters are remainers and some Labour voters are leavers but by and large, they cancel each other's votes.
Professor John Curtice says the same on TV, that there is a remainers lead.
I'd lay off the drugs for a bit if I were you.
Professor Hugh Jardon says the opposite, and he's the one that's right.
What odd judgment you have. That's exactly what Labour was promising. The Tories won't do it, they've had nine years in which they only reduced that investment.
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OG demonstrating perfectly what is known in the trade as 'all-or-nothing' thinking. Reference to the use of 'everything'. Of course he has not failed in 'everything'.
he's a much better educated version of DT, a natural stand up comedian and a career politician so who knows, he may get a good deal out of both the EU and the USA although I don't hold my breath.
My immediate fear of no deal on the first of Feb is now gone, I won't emigrate in March, but postpone it until end of the transition period, Jan 2021.
Strange that in my constituency it's very different. We switched our Tory held always marginal seat into a massive 6000 majority Corbyn led Labour win last time, and that with a new untried candidate.
And this time we've repeated that 6000 majority over the Tories, despite any Corbyn effect.
It's Croydon Central if anyone doesn't believe me.
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they overcooked the goose a bit - promising about 10 billions extra spending on each day of the campaign could have frightened some voters that they might be taxed to pay for Labour's promises.
Despite the majority being against a Tory government Brexit.
Add up Labour, LibDem, and SNP votes and you'll see they had a clear large majority. The better system of proportional representation would have brought a very different outcome.
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That's not true.
Add up Labour, LibDem, and SNP votes and you'll see they had a clear large majority. The better system of proportional representation would have brought a very different outcome.
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Yet, his biggest disaster is yet to come, and will be very entertaining.
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Blair and co would still have lost, both this time and in 2017.
As I pointed out very long ago in this thread, it was widely agreed that after the original SNP win to dominate Scottish seats, it would be very difficult for Labour ever to return to power in Westminster if the SNP stayed in power.
That's because Labour always heavily depended on the North of England and Scotland to offset the Tory south of England, and their party always reflected that. Blair's government was full of Scots from the chancellor down, and John Smith, his predecessor as Labour leader was a Scot in a Scottish seat.
This election result just underlines that, with the SNP again dominating in Scotland. They don't only keep out Labour, they also keep out the Tories, so nothing to do with either Corbyn or Johnson.
This is Labour's real long term problem whoever leads, and if Scotland ever wins independence it will become a permanent problem, only soluble with proportional representation.
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Looks like the catalyst to brexit didn't do well at all
Lost all his battles but in a funny way won the war
Cummings and co are laughing all the way to the bank
even as the British union is splintering
Edit from the Torygraph
"Nigel Farage has said he will spend weeks next year as a warm-up speaker for Donald Trump’s campaign rallies"
“If I'm asked to help I may."
Poor Nigel
| Brexit Party Nigel Farage | 0 | 2% | 642,303 |
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Lost all his battles but in a funny way won the war
Cummings and co are laughing all the way to the bank
even as the British union is splintering
Edit from the Torygraph
"Nigel Farage has said he will spend weeks next year as a warm-up speaker for Donald Trump’s campaign rallies"
“If I'm asked to help I may."
Poor Nigel
Never heard of it and who is Corbyn.
If Labour doesnt change we, ll be saying same about Party too.
Mr Johnson has just visited Queen, she, s asked him to form a government. This Mr Corbyn you mention, whoever he is, will probably be planning an allotment,in his pretend council house.
This is what your Labour has done. Given us most right wing government for 50 years with a 78 majority. Well done.
The small bits of red are Labour. The blue is Conservative.
But its Trump, Farage, Johnson, Murdock, Daily Mail, Russian Bots and Queenie to blame. Not momentum at all.
And this was Thatchers.
Johnson has actually gained in English heart land "labour" over Thatcher. She never got Rothervalley, Durham and many others. (I dont think she got Nottinghill but Johnson has)
All because of Corbyn.
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