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Woosh

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However, I'm not in the least surprised by the behaviour of the congenital thyroid deficient creatures haunting the H o P at this time.
probably just to keep Bojo as the record holder of parliamentary vote losers.
He is a dead duck PM.

7 out of 7 votes?
 
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Was your sense of humour extracted at birth or has it diminished over time due to leading a very dull life?

Now stop being a bell-end by trying to pretend that you are some sort of intellectual. Embedded within your style of writing are certain clues, some I have previously remarked on, which betray the fact that you are a limited man who is struggling with inner insecurities regarding intellect.
Be aware that I reserve the right to agree with you when you say something worthwhile. But you have long exceeded my quota of fools pardons, and offensive remarks made about third parties goes beyond acceptable behaviour. Again your purient vocabulary betrays a gutter mentality.
 
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flecc

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was, not now.
Wasn't always "was safe" either.

MP Airey Neave was blown up in his car in the House of Commons underground car park in 1979, both legs blasted off and he died in hospital within an hour.

And in 1984 the Tory Party conference hotel in Brighton was blown up, five killed including one MP and MP Norman Tebbit's wife Margaret was permanently disabled.
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Be aware that I reserve the right to agree with you when you say something worthwhile. But you have long exceeded my quota of fools pardons, and offensive remarks made about third parties goes beyond acceptable behaviour. Again your purient vocabulary betrays a gutter mentality.
Just like you, that means less than zero.
 
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oldgroaner

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Labour are using situation to foister policies nobody wants upon us, thinking rather perversely that tories are so bad they can go more extreme. Trouble is they are simply keeping tories in power so fools like Bojo actually look acceptable.
Why cant we just have a moderate realistic opposition. Our politics has had a nervous breakdown, polarising itself further and further apart with no one actually representing the vast majority of us.
Tories have lost the plot but labour have lost it even more.
They are actually making EU look more acceptable.
I, m beginning to think close Westminster, sack them all and hand power to Junkers.
I remember making a similar remark in the past!
 

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That's a bit pathetic. It's a break with tradition at a time when an example of proper conduct needs to be set. This would have been a good opportunity to claim a portion of the moral high ground by not stooping to Johnson's level and granting the Conservative party a recess for their conference.

However, I'm not in the least surprised by the behaviour of the congenital thyroid deficient creatures haunting the H o P at this time.
The HoC has learned something from the behaviour across the Atlantic. If you are dealing with dirty tactics and opponents who continue to lie, taking the "moral high ground" is counterproductive. The SC equally has learned,and unless one maintains ones power, it gets stolen.
 
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jonathan.agnew

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That's a bit pathetic. It's a break with tradition at a time when an example of proper conduct needs to be set. This would have been a good opportunity to claim a portion of the moral high ground by not stooping to Johnson's level and granting the Conservative party a recess for their conference.

However, I'm not in the least surprised by the behaviour of the congenital thyroid deficient creatures haunting the H o P at this time.
Since tory mp's by and large disagree with the supreme court decision (and it seem the rule of law) and wish to be prorogued one could argue they and boris, could just **** off and leave democratic decision making to those who believe in it.
 

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Polls suggest

Conservatives: 33
Labour: 24
LibDems: 19
BXP: 13
Greens: 4
SNP: 4
So if we do not leave on the 31st and Boris blames the HOC . He gets his GE and does a deal with farage....it will be a Boris farage coalition. (Going by the above poll)
 

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Although English, albeit with a half Scottish mother, I've actually stayed in the Gorbals back in the early 1950s.
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It's a brave man that dares to call a woman "Half Scottish" to her face ye ken??
Even if you're wearing a full suit of plate armour.
Such Valour
Surely you never said such a thing to her flecc?
 

oldgroaner

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Fingers. You are being incoherent.and trollish. Stirring up nonsense,without any consistency of purpose.. except to rile people. Just give over. I suspect you actually know that scotch is a drink,so unless you are filled with the stuff, you are not scotch.
Unless he's a terrier? I have heard it said "on the internet no one knows if you're a dog"
 
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So if we do not leave on the 31st and Boris blames the HOC . He gets his GE and does a deal with farage....it will be a Boris farage coalition. (Going by the above poll)
possibly.
Although I dream up this scenario:
Bojo brings back May's deal with cosmetic change, parliament then boots him out on a VONC.
The rebel alliance forms a national unity government, ratifies Bojo's deal with a confirmatory referendum before calling a GE.
We may end up with Farage for PM and all get dual USA and British nationality.
 

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It's a brave man that dares to call a woman "Half Scottish" to her face ye ken??
Surely you never said such a thing to her flecc?
She wouldn't have given a damn, never acknowledging the Scottish part.

She was an East End cockney and proud of it.

First I knew of it was when I was four and my mother called me into the hall and said, "This is your grandmother". And the elderly lady who I'd never see before said hello in an accent strange to me and walked into the front room out of sight.

I never saw her again since she'd come to us to die of terminal cancer. I didnt know anything of that until a few weeks later when two officials came in, sealed the room and fumigated it with a lit candle sealed into the room. In those days it was still thought cancer was a disease that could be caught.
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So if we do not leave on the 31st and Boris blames the HOC . He gets his GE and does a deal with farage....it will be a Boris farage coalition. (Going by the above poll)
In a winner take all system voter numbers and seats arent the same thing. Remember what happened to ukip? You're conveniently leaving the greens, snp etc out, and moderate tories that deflect when it becomes a brexit sect. For a labour voter you're prepared to do the uk significant harm for a decision you yet have to explain (I'm guessing as much to yourself as anyone else)?
 

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So if we do not leave on the 31st and Boris blames the HOC . He gets his GE and does a deal with farage....it will be a Boris farage coalition. (Going by the above poll)
Not necessarily, an alliance of the others in a coalition attains 51 to that 46. If either the Greens or the SNP don't join, the alliance would still probably lead.
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oldgroaner

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She wouldn't have given a damn, never acknowledging the Scottish part.

She was an East End cockney and proud of it.

First I knew of it was when I was four and my mother called me into the hall and said, "This is your grandmother". And the elderly lady who I'd never see before said hello in an accent strange to me and walked into the front room out of sight.

I never saw her again since she'd come to us to die of terminal cancer. I didnt know anything of that until a few weeks later when two officials came in, sealed the room and fumigated it with a lit candle sealed into the room. In those days it was still thought cancer was a disease that could be caught.
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When my Grandmother moved into a new house which for the first time for her had electricity, she insisted on buying plugs for all sockets so it wouldn't leak all over the floor...
 
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Not necessarily, an alliance of the others in a coalition attains 51 to that 46. If either the Greens or the SNP don't join, the alliance would still lead.
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a lot will depend on the deal Bojo brings back on 19-October.
If he gets no significant concession, BXP will go up, conservative will go down, but parliament will pass the deal in exchange for a second referendum.
 

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