Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

Esteemed Pedelecer
Nov 15, 2015
23,461
32,613
80
Good. They deserved to be 'bullied' (though I would call it making them aware of their responsibilities to their constituency voters).

If they vote against the government absolutely they should be de-selected.
So in other words Conservative MP's are just stooges with no need or liberty to use their own judgement.
That is idiotic and a sure guarantee of disaster.
 

flecc

Member
Oct 25, 2006
53,216
30,617
The poor Queen bless her heart.

Just a frail old pensioner living off state benefits. Barely knows where she is most days of the week. Those evil men have taken advantage of her simple soul.

Jesus flecc.
Please keep a sense of proportion. My post was nothing to do with the welfare of the Queen and everything to do with the welfare of our constitution.

It was a warning against the dangerous precedent that Johnson is creating. The rules, whether legislated or born of long experience and practice, are there for an important purpose. To set standards to avoid the slippery slope into disorder and corruption.

Johnson's precedent is a step into permitting even wider future abuse.
.
 

oldgroaner

Esteemed Pedelecer
Nov 15, 2015
23,461
32,613
80
Please keep a sense of proportion. My post was nothing to do with the welfare of the Queen and everything to do with the welfare of our constitution.

It was a warning against the dangerous precedent that Johnson is creating. The rules, whether legislated or born of long experience and practice, are there for an important purpose. To set standards to avoid the slippery slope into disorder and corruption.

Johnson's precedent is a step into permitting even wider future abuse.
.
Why worry, Brexit is heading steadily into ruin anyway it hasn't a hope of being anything other than disastrous.
There are too many incompetent politicians involved for it standing a chance,and you have Rasputin Cummings making matters worse.
Once Boris gets his version of the Brino agreement through things will start coming apart as the rats start infighting.
 
  • Like
Reactions: oyster

Fingers

Esteemed Pedelecer
Feb 9, 2016
3,373
1,552
46
Please keep a sense of proportion. My post was nothing to do with the welfare of the Queen and everything to do with the welfare of our constitution.

It was a warning against the dangerous precedent that Johnson is creating. The rules, whether legislated or born of long experience and practice, are there for an important purpose. To set standards to avoid the slippery slope into disorder and corruption.

Johnson's precedent is a step into permitting even wider future abuse.
.

Maybe we should get a written constitution then?

Get rid of the Queen and all the other parasites and have a proper bill of rights.

I like your thinking flecc.
 

oldgroaner

Esteemed Pedelecer
Nov 15, 2015
23,461
32,613
80
Most old folk who were conned in the last referendum are tbf.

She doesn't forget.
Do you realise the meaning of your post?
You have just agreed most old folks who were conned in the last referendum are leavers
Did you mean to do that?
 

flecc

Member
Oct 25, 2006
53,216
30,617
Maybe we should get a written constitution then?

Get rid of the Queen and all the other parasites and have a proper bill of rights.

I like your thinking flecc.
Totally agree. About time we reached the 21st century, or even the second half of the 20th.
.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: oldgroaner

oldgroaner

Esteemed Pedelecer
Nov 15, 2015
23,461
32,613
80
Yes. Yes I did.

I was referring to the last referendum.

Not the current one.
That was the last referendum there is no current one yet and that is what you are afraid of.
That is one that can't be fiddled like the last.
 
Last edited:

oldgroaner

Esteemed Pedelecer
Nov 15, 2015
23,461
32,613
80
EDIT THE ABOVE PLEASE
It seems you don't know the difference between past and current
A referendum is only "current" while it is taking place.
You shouldn't need such simple things explained to you.
Nor should it be necesary to explain to you that your posts should be connected to whatever they are in response to.
 

Advertisers