You might want to revise your opinion regarding Glastonbury.. there were 96 arrests and Population of 200,000 ,so it was5 times worse. ..most were arrests for theft. And the police were very pleased that it was DOWN 42% on the preceding year. A Rugby match attracts about 50,000 ..but they confine the violence to the playing field.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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No, you might like to try getting your facts straight. There were 96 crimes recorded. Recording a crime is not an arrest. An arrest is something different.
There were 16 arrests at Glastonbury this year.
Tell us that again if as we anticipate there is public unrest
Most leave voters did it as a protest against the very things you think they should be happy to put up with, not an encouragement for the nut jobs of the Adam West Institute to make matters worse serving the interests of he Tax dodging rich.
They were promised the Earth remember?
You had better deliver on those promises never mind coming out with crappy excuses.
Otherwise "So be it" could well be a very dangerous situation indeed.
Enough crap, deliver what you promised and do it immediately.
(1) More money for the NHS
Vote Leave’s battle bus said: “We send the EU £350 million a week. Let’s fund our NHS instead”
“Instead of sending £350 million per week to Brussels, we will spend it on our priorities like the NHS and education.” – Vote Leave briefing
“After we Vote Leave on 23 June, the Government should use some of the billions saved from leaving the EU to give at least a £100 million per week cash transfusion to the NHS.” – Michael Gove, Boris Johnson, and Gisela Stuart
(2) More money for farmers
“The UK government will continue to give farmers and the environment as much support – or perhaps even more – as they get now.” – George Eustice, Minister for Farming, Food and Marine Environment
(3) More money for scientists
“If we Vote Leave, we will be able to increase funding to science and still save billions” –Vote Leave
(4) More money in your pocket
“Wages will be higher for working people outside the EU… because pay will no longer be undercut by uncontrolled migration.” – Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, and Gisela Stuart
(5) And scrapping VAT on fuel bills and tampons
“In 1993, VAT on household energy bills was imposed… When we Vote Leave, we will be able to scrap this unfair and damaging tax.” – Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, and Gisela Stuart
‘After we Vote Leave… We will need a carefully managed negotiation process and some major legislative changes before 2020, including taking real steps… to abolish VAT on fuel and tampons” – Chris Grayling
(6) No EU beneficiaries left worse-off
“There is more than enough money to ensure that those who now get funding from the EU – including universities, scientists, family farmers, regional funds, cultural organisations and others – will continue to do so… We will continue to fund EU programmes in the UK until 2020” – Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, and Priti Patel (amongst other signatories)
(7) And no short-term economic disruption
“After we Vote Leave, there won’t be a sudden change that disrupts the economy.” – Boris Johnson, Gisela Stuart and Michael Gove
(8) We’ll get brand new trade deals all over the world
“We would immediately be able to start negotiating new trade deals… which could enter into force immediately after the UK leaves the EU” – Chris Grayling
(9) There’ll be no damage to trade with the EU
“There is a European free trade zone from Iceland to the Russian border and we will be part of it… Britain will have access to the Single Market after we vote leave… The idea that our trade will suffer because we stop imposing terrible rules such as the Clinical Trial Directive is silly.” Vote Leave
(10) Or our cooperation with the EU
“We will negotiate a UK-EU Treaty that enables us 1) to continue cooperating in many areas just as now (e.g. maritime surveillance), 2) to deepen cooperation in some areas (e.g. scientific collaborations and counter-terrorism)” – Vote Leave
(11) Guaranteed in a treaty which we’ll sort out before 2020
“It will be possible to negotiate a new settlement with the EU, including a UK-EU free trade deal, by the next general election in May 2020” – Vote Leave
(12) Which won’t have any obligation to follow EU laws
“The supremacy of EU law and the jurisdiction of the European Court over the UK will come to an end” Vote Leave
(13) We’ll cut immigration
“I wouldn’t set a time limit for it but the ambition would be to bring it down to tens of thousands.” – Michael Gove
(14) With a new system in place by 2020
“By the next general election, we will create a genuine Australian-style points based immigration system.” – Michael Gove, Boris Johnson, Priti Patel and Gisela Stuart
(15) That doesn’t favour EU citizens
“Those seeking entry for work or study should be admitted on the basis of their skills without discrimination on the ground of nationality.” – Michael Gove, Boris Johnson, Priti Patel and Gisela Stuart
“[We will introduce a bill to] end the automatic right of all EU citizens to enter the UK by the next election” – Vote Leave
(16) But which gives Irish citizens total free access
“The right of Irish citizens to enter, reside and work in the UK is already enshrined in our law. This will be entirely unaffected by a vote to leave on 23 June.” – Michael Gove, Boris Johnson, Priti Patel and Gisela Stuart
(17) And stronger border controls
“There is one absolutely clear-cut dividend from leaving the EU. That is our ability to regain control of our borders, including far stronger powers over who we can deport, and proper preventative checks at the border.” – Dominic Raab
(18) But no controls on the Northern Irish land border with the EU
“There will be no change to the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic.” – Michael Gove, Boris Johnson, Priti Patel and Gisela Stuart
(19) And the union with Scotland will be stronger than ever
“If we vote to leave then I think the union will be stronger… I think when we vote to leave it will be clear that having voted to leave one union the last thing people in Scotland wanted to do is to break up another.” – Michael Gove
Corrected 31/08/2016: Vote Leave’s battle bus promised £350m a week to the NHS, not the EU.
You will note no mention of Hardship and more wages too!
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yes, corrrect.
The last time (MV3), TM lost by 344 votes to 286. It's because she has not got enough MPs on the government payroll that she lost.
My memory is that there was a run on the pound. Maybe like what will happen this week. You do realise that since the Brexit referendum,the pound sterling has plummeted in value?. Now it is a stroke of luck for those with money to speculate in the currency market, but not for the old geezer, filling up the car with Petrol in France in order to tow the caravan back to the ferry.
Police figures show that the amount of crimes reported at this year's Glastonbury Festival is way down in comparison to 2017.
Somerset Live spoke to Avon and Somerset Inspector Mark Nicholson on Sunday to discuss the reported crime figures from Tuesday-Sunday (June 25-30).
So far at this year's festival, 96 crimes have been reported. In 2017, that number was up at 166.
Thefts make up the majority of the crimes this year, but the number - 67 - is still down from 90 in 2017.
Drug offences have fallen from 36 in 2017 to 13 this year.
So still quite a lot of offending in this very good year, with the past record nothing to brag about. And if Glastonbury had 12,000 police attending you can bet there would have been far more arrests, particularly for drugs offences.
Lay off London, it's one of the safest capital cities in the world to live in or visit and far safer than many other large UK cities as I've shown you.
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Thank you for that extensive.
I see no reason why most if not all of those can be implemented. Your demand that this must be done 'immediately' - not so sure about that. But once we've got the 'leave' bit done - then we can settle down to thinking about how we're going to deliver on all of that.
I'm sure Boris Cummings and the team have a well-thought out plan.
So do you think it would have been better to have stayed in the ERM? Surely not. Currency corrections are vital. At the time the pound was terribly over-valued (you could get 3DMs for one sterling at one point).
We have a good economy. Its fundamentals are strong.
The moment you start trying to hold a currency to a fixed amount (ERM, the Euro) - unless you have identical political systems it all goes belly up. Talk to any young person in Greece, Portugal, Spain etc without a job and you'll see how that plays out.
How Soros made more than £1 billion Pound on Black Wednesday must have been a lesson for those who bet on the result of the referendum. John Major's government joined the ERM at a too high rate (£1 = 2.97DM) while our inflation is 3 times Germany's at the time. When the exchange rate dropped near the intervention level (-7%), the BoE had to buy Sterling. It does not take long for people like Soros that if they could push the Pound below the intervention level, they can force the BoE to buy at that exchange rate until politicians lose their nerve and let the Pound float lower, making them vast amount o money. The BoE should have held much higher reserve of foreign currencies to stop speculators but as it happened, no amount of reserve could have stopped a one way bet.
The BoE learnt the lesson and thus did not lose any money due to the 2016 referendum, made some profit on its foreign currencies reserve.
Just a thought. Whilst he might very much wish it were otherwise, even DT cannot close down HoR in order to stop them voting on something.
If BJ tries to go ahead with preventing HoC acting, he will be fundamentally destroying a part of our constitution. I shall not be surprised if the consequences include curtailment of the powers of any future PM. Some way in which a future PM will have all rights to prorogation removed.
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Bojo controls the business at the House, he does not have to do anything illegal.
The opposition is divided on the subject of JC becoming PM, he only has to last long enough (17-October) to win.
If he loses a confidence vote before that date, he only has to convince a few (4?) conservative and independent MPs not to support JC for PM job and he can stay at No 10.
he does not have to.
It's up to him to write the letter to Donald Tusk requesting an extension.
He'll wait until the 31st October at 23:00 PM and say 'oops, I did it again'.
Thank you, I really, really needed cheering up, and that provided me with a damn good laugh.
Let me in on a secret, why is the Conservative Party going to become socialist and implement any of those promises when there is nothing theoretically to stop them going about their business in the way they always have of parasiting on the poorer classes?
This is no time for faint hearts!
And no one believes they can change even if they wanted to.
It's the Fascist spring!
Andrew Lloyd Webber should write a musical we could call it springtime for Fat Cats
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Brilliant stuff as per Gerald.
Thank you for spending the time writing and posting your musings.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say we all look forward to your witticisms that skewer the wrong but with your characteristic charm and humour.
Thank you again.
If he waits till then it goes to an empty letterbox, Retirement beckons for Mr Tusk. No there are lapses which are excusable in a backbencher, objectionable and a resigning matter for Ministers and utterly ridiculous if done by a premier.
Are you sure you meant to congratulate me on "Skewering the wrong"?
I do it all the time, and at last you have finally noticed!