Brexit, for once some facts.

[50Hertz]

If the advertised price was 320k I wouldn't be offering anymore than 250k. That takes stamp duty out of the equation anyway. A percentage or two increase in interest rates and there will be some very, very motivated sellers. Might even get the 320k house for 220k.

Brexit triumphant again.

You could well benefit if you have cash available to buy. I’ve built houses, sold them, let them, there is money to be made. I know one guy who has 16 rental properties. He remortgages them frequently and takes the capital gain out as a deposit for another house, so all 16 are quite heavily mortgaged. That’s too big a risk for me, and people like him will be the first casualties of a house price collapse. I’ve not got that many houses, but I own them outright, so I’m exposed to a loss of personal wealth, which would be painful but not a catastrophe.

Here is a Brexit tip for you. Pretty soon after a no deal Brexit, there will be more houses coming onto the market as people lose their jobs, fall behind with mortgage payments, get evicted by the lender and move their families into council run emergency shelter rooms. The banks will then sell the vacated ex-family home and these can be a good buy if you strike quickly and make a cash offer. Here’s the tip I’m coming to. Look on Rightmove or any of the other sites and study the interior photos. If any appliances, boiler, cooker, gas fire etc has a do not use sticker on it, that is likely to mean the house is a bank repo and the family have been chucked out. Get in there fingers and fill yer boots, the bank is likely to accept a low cash offer as long as it covers the family’s mortgage debt. Anything above the mortgage debt, they give to the family, but fuckem, this is Brexit, every man for himself.

If your luck is really in, the council might not let the family take everything into the emergency shelter, so there could be stuff left at the house for you to Ebay. Kids toys and bikes will make you a bit of extra cheese in the run up to Crimbo.

Thanks for letting us know about one of your perceived advantages to Brexit. Sounds great for some.

 

[Woosh]

The only truly effective answer is to grasp the nettle and cancel Brexit, on the basis that the level of trouble caused is likely to be small compared to any other outcome.

polls don't support cancelling brexit anymore than no deal brexit.
that may be why Jo Swinson supports the idea of Ken Clarke to be PM of a national unity government with a single objective to sort out brexit by:
1. ask for an extension
2. agree a negotiating position on CU, SM and the Irish border
3. agree a deal with the EU
4. put that deal to a people's vote
5. call a GE

JC is not interested in this plan so it's unlikely to fly unless things change a lot in September.
As far as I can see, JC will sit tight on his fence for the foreseeable future.
Remainers will curse Corbyn for yeears to come.

 

[oldgroaner]

From LBC
"
The founder and former leader of the Brexit Party criticised the strategy of Nigel Farage's group as she quit to join the Conservatives.

Catherine Blaiklock, who set up the party before Mr Farage took over, said she was leaving to back new Prime Minister Boris Johnson's plans to push Brexit through on 31st October.


Speaking to Andrew Pierce, she was very critical of the Brexit Party's strategy at the Brecon by-election and said that fielding candidates in all 650 seats at the next General Election is a very bad move.

She told LBC: "The Brexit Party achieved a great result and they had a great influence of getting rid of May and we've now got Boris.

"We are in a very fragile situation. The Brexit Party doesn't have any MPs, it has no power whatsoever to do anything.


"The only person who can do anything at this point is Boris and his team."

Didn't Fingers mention "The penny dropping"?
It hasn't taken long for the rot to set in with Farage's flying circus, has it?

 

[flecc]

Remainers will curse Corbyn for yeears to come.

I'm sure all Remainers know who to curse for evermore and that will be Cameron and the Tory far right.

Swinson's plan probably wouldn't deliver Remain anyway, so Corbyn's lack of support for it is irrelevant.

Personally I don't care if we do leave, madness though that is. I sided long ago with OG in being happy for Leavers to learn the harsh lessons of leaving the EU.
.

 

[oldgroaner]

I'm sure all Remainers know who to curse for evermore and that will be Cameron and the Tory far right.

Swinson's plan probably wouldn't deliver Remain anyway, so Corbyn's lack of support for it is irrelevant.

Personally I don't care if we do leave, madness though that is. I sided long ago with OG in being happy for Leavers to learn the harsh lessons of leaving the EU.
.

There are in fact only two likely alternatives

No Deal
No Leave

The sad truth is was a nation we are incompetent to do either without lashing it up, and any decision reached will be accidental.
We may as well play "Spin the bottle" to decide.

 

[Fingers]

polls don't support cancelling brexit anymore than no deal brexit.
that may be why Jo Swinson supports the idea of Ken Clarke to be PM of a national unity government with a single objective to sort out brexit by:
1. ask for an extension
2. agree a negotiating position on CU, SM and the Irish border
3. agree a deal with the EU
4. put that deal to a people's vote
5. call a GE

JC is not interested in this plan so it's unlikely to fly unless things change a lot in September.
As far as I can see, JC will sit tight on his fence for the foreseeable future.
Remainers will curse Corbyn for yeears to come.

Corbyn just wants another campaign. He loves campaigns.

Win or lose he loves a campaign.

 

[Fingers]

You could well benefit if you have cash available to buy. I’ve built houses, sold them, let them, there is money to be made. I know one guy who has 16 rental properties. He remortgages them frequently and takes the capital gain out as a deposit for another house, so all 16 are quite heavily mortgaged. That’s too big a risk for me, and people like him will be the first casualties of a house price collapse. I’ve not got that many houses, but I own them outright, so I’m exposed to a loss of personal wealth, which would be painful but not a catastrophe.

Here is a Brexit tip for you. Pretty soon after a no deal Brexit, there will be more houses coming onto the market as people lose their jobs, fall behind with mortgage payments, get evicted by the lender and move their families into council run emergency shelter rooms. The banks will then sell the vacated ex-family home and these can be a good buy if you strike quickly and make a cash offer. Here’s the tip I’m coming to. Look on Rightmove or any of the other sites and study the interior photos. If any appliances, boiler, cooker, gas fire etc has a do not use sticker on it, that is likely to mean the house is a bank repo and the family have been chucked out. Get in there fingers and fill yer boots, the bank is likely to accept a low cash offer as long as it covers the family’s mortgage debt. Anything above the mortgage debt, they give to the family, but fuckem, this is Brexit, every man for himself.

If your luck is really in, the council might not let the family take everything into the emergency shelter, so there could be stuff left at the house for you to Ebay. Kids toys and bikes will make you a bit of extra cheese in the run up to Crimbo.

Thanks for letting us know about one of your perceived advantages to Brexit. Sounds great for some.

I wouldn't want to profit on the misery of others.

I guess that's the difference between you and your family than me.

But I definitely want a motivated seller that thought there were easy pickings.

Guess what. I'm now the person they were.

Like you say. I could hold on. I really could.

But its simply not in my nature. I just want a family home at a price I can afford.

It's really not too much to ask for is it?

 

[50Hertz]

I wouldn't want to profit on the misery of others.

Actually, I don’t think you would want to profit from another person’s misfortune.

The scenario I posted regarding a family losing their home and going into council run single room emergency accommodation is the reality though, and someone will buy their repossessed home.

Brexit is going to cost jobs, and people will lose their home as a result, I’ve come to that conclusion. I have no idea what the benefits of Brexit will be, if any. That’s what’s changed my mind from leave to remain.

 

[oldgroaner]

In the Daily Mail Sunday morning

Revealed: New leaked Government No Deal dossier predicts fuel, food and medicine shortages, port chaos and Irish border disruption on Oct 31, as source claims 'this is not Project Fear, these are basic scenarios'


well I never!

 

[oldgroaner]

IDS rides again

State pension age should be raised to 75 within 16 years, urges Iain Duncan Smith's think tank, as it calls for older people 'to access the benefits of work'

What he means is Death at work to avoid the cost of pensions.
Back to the 18th Century.

 

[50Hertz]

IDS rides again

State pension age should be raised to 75 within 16 years, urges Iain Duncan Smith's think tank, as it calls for older people 'to access the benefits of work'

What he means is Death at work to avoid the cost of pensions.
Back to the 18th Century.

The man should be publicly flogged for even making such a suggestion. What a betrayal.

You are correct, once you retire they just want you to die so that they can save money on pensions and healthcare. The money saved can then be passed on to the wealthy in the form of tax breaks.

Brexit will probably expedite such a situation anyway, regardless of what we want.

 

[Woosh]

Gina Miller explains how Bojo is going to beat remainer MPs:

Under the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011, parliament is automatically dissolved 25 days before an election, but it can be done sooner. Such an election lock would close the doors of parliament and legally push the UK over the EU exit date. So, while MPs debate a vote of no confidence and Corbyn attempts to become leader of a government of national unity, Johnson could dramatically pull the rug from underneath their feet.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/18/boris-johnson-brexit-ploy-extreme-rightwing-ideology-gina-miller

 

[Woosh]

YouGov poll:

No deal: 10%
simple free trade deal: 42%
Associate membership: 31%
don't get the question or can't be bothered etc: 17%

the sizeabe 42% who think it's OK to replace our current membership with a simple FTA don't understand how many jobs will be lost if we diverge from EU standards.

note the difference between unweighted sample and weighted sample.
The will of the people has shifted.

 

[oyster]

IDS rides again

State pension age should be raised to 75 within 16 years, urges Iain Duncan Smith's think tank, as it calls for older people 'to access the benefits of work'

What he means is Death at work to avoid the cost of pensions.
Back to the 18th Century.

In order for people to continue working, many will require health support, which just isn't there. All too many end up with something that maybe treatable, but have to wait an inordinate time before getting that treatment, during which time work might be difficult to impossible. Simple examples include cataracts which can preclude many jobs, and even driving to work.

One of the things that helps towards continued working is making it easier to move from current work to something more manageable. I suspect relatively few can continue heavy manual work. Some companies might be able to move staff to help. Others won't be willing or able. Simply getting a new job when over 65 is not easy.

IDS was born in 1954. I wonder what he will be capable of in another ten years? He might be one of the lucky ones. Others might suggest we'd all be better off if he retired right now and shut his mouth up for good.

 

[oyster]

Just to add to halloween concerns:

Thousands of homes could lose their energy supplier in the coming months as a result of a financial shock looming over the industry’s smaller companies.

Suppliers are due to pass on millions of pounds’ worth of renewable energy subsidies, collected via energy bills, to the energy regulator, Ofgem, by the end of the month.

This deadline has in the past proved fatal for financially unstable energy suppliers, and it is feared that a string of collapses may follow in the coming months. Suppliers have until 31 August to pay their share of the renewable energy subsidies, or can opt to pay the amount owed – plus interest – by 31 October.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/aug/18/small-energy-providers-fears-key-financial-deadline-renewable-subsidies

 

[oyster]

I hate quoting the DM, but...

Cripes! Boris’s Brexit script is left in a pub by a ‘drunk’ official revealing the PM is primed to tackle ‘tricky’ topics of Northern Ireland, citizens’ rights and no deal

• Eight-page document entitled ‘Core Brexit Brief’ was found in Westminster pub
• The script is split into sections including ‘EU processes’ and ‘Citizens’ rights’
• Provides stock answers to everything an interviewer might ask Boris Johnson

By Harry Cole Deputy Political Editor For The Mail On Sunday

Published: 22:54, 17 August 2019 | Updated: 08:11, 18 August 2019

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7367689/Boris-Johnsons-Brexit-script-left-pub-drunk-official.html

One comment:
Happy abroad, Waldshut, Germany, 31 minutes ago

So basically Boris will not be answering any questions, as usual, because he hasn't a clue.

 

[Danidl]

Gina Miller explains how Bojo is going to beat remainer MPs:

Under the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011, parliament is automatically dissolved 25 days before an election, but it can be done sooner. Such an election lock would close the doors of parliament and legally push the UK over the EU exit date. So, while MPs debate a vote of no confidence and Corbyn attempts to become leader of a government of national unity, Johnson could dramatically pull the rug from underneath their feet.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/18/boris-johnson-brexit-ploy-extreme-rightwing-ideology-gina-miller

Does PM have the right to dissolve Parliament?. My assumption would be that PM would move a motion to do so, the Parliament would then vote,and the PM would inform the Head of State. Now all it takes is two members of his party or indeed any of the DUP to vote against the motion ,and it is defeated.

 

[Danidl]

I hate quoting the DM, but...

Cripes! Boris’s Brexit script is left in a pub by a ‘drunk’ official revealing the PM is primed to tackle ‘tricky’ topics of Northern Ireland, citizens’ rights and no deal

• Eight-page document entitled ‘Core Brexit Brief’ was found in Westminster pub
• The script is split into sections including ‘EU processes’ and ‘Citizens’ rights’
• Provides stock answers to everything an interviewer might ask Boris Johnson

By Harry Cole Deputy Political Editor For The Mail On Sunday

Published: 22:54, 17 August 2019 | Updated: 08:11, 18 August 2019

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7367689/Boris-Johnsons-Brexit-script-left-pub-drunk-official.html

One comment:
Happy abroad, Waldshut, Germany, 31 minutes ago

So basically Boris will not be answering any questions, as usual, because he hasn't a clue.

You actually think this was an accidental leaking of information?.

 

[Woosh]

Does PM have the right to dissolve Parliament?. My assumption would be that PM would move a motion to do so, the Parliament would then vote,and the PM would inform the Head of State. Now all it takes is two members of his party or indeed any of the DUP to vote against the motion ,and it is defeated.

under our fixed term parliaments Act, Bojo needs either two thirds of MPs to agree with him, he might get it because JC desperately wants a GE, or more simply, he loses a confidence vote. In either scenario, Bojo controls the timing of the dissolution of the current parliament, that guarantees his claim of 'do or die'.
There is nothing remainers MPs can do about it. The only reason that TM lost is because of her own MPs in the ERG voting against her. Remainers do not have the majority in the HoC.

There is a very good reason why Bojo may want to do so. JC may have done well last time against TM because TM instinctively prefers not spending public money. JC on the other hand promised something like £50 billions extra spending on tuition fees and public services. This time, he'll be facing a completely professional and experienced electioneering team which has no qualms about spending public money.

You need to appreciate that estimates suggest that Bojo can get about 50-70 more seats in a GE against Corbyn unless his government is hit first by adverse reaction to a no deal brexit.
Nobody has more to gain in a no deal brexit than Corbyn.

 

[oyster]

You actually think this was an accidental leaking of information?.

Intent or accident - both seem ridiculous.