Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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Ken Clarke is a very safe bet, always very rational and considered in his statements and actions.
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Mind you his support for Brexit doesn't make him a favourite as far as I'm concerned.
more of a useful idiot perhaps if the circumstances are right.
Needs must when the Devil drives and all that.
 
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That's boring! he's much more fun when he doesn't :rolleyes:
I was just about to reply along the same lines. When I try to talk sense, I quickly get bored and my focus of attention wanders to imagining squirrels playing with an acorn at the base of a tree. If I make things up and post garbage, I find that I can maintain my concentration levels much longer.
 
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I was just about to reply along the same lines. When I try to talk sense, I quickly get bored and my focus of attention wanders to imagining squirrels playing with an acorn at the base of a tree. If I make things up and post garbage, I find that I can maintain my concentration levels much longer.
That's the ID taking over....works for me.... :cool:
Or do I work for it?.......
 
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UK current account deficit widens to 5.6%
If Bojo forces through no deal brexit, that deficit is going to open up much higher and the BoE will have to put up interest rate.
When that happens, Bojo won't be able to spend his way out of a recession.
If JC were to bet on this, his interest is to let the conservatives crash out on no deal and wait for spring GE.
 

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Exclusive: Leaked Doc Reveals Civil Servants Told To Report 'Unhelpful Narratives' On Brexit To No.10

The rise of Commissar Cummings

Interference in the oganisation at no. 10 by the unelected career psychopath is making the Prime minister look like a banana republic despot.
And this from the people who complained about "unelected bureaucracy in the EU!"
 

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Deck chairs and Titanic time:

The chancellor has refused to rule out reversing stamp duty so it is paid by the seller, rather than the buyer.

In an interview with the Times, Sajid Javid indicated he was willing to consider the policy, which was said to have been favoured by Boris Johnson during the Tory leadership campaign, among others.

Asked about the proposal, Javid told the paper: “I’m looking at various options. I’m a low-tax guy. I want to see simpler taxes.”


Just why? What major benefit would accrue that makes it worth disrupting the current system when there is so much else that will need urgent attention?

(I really struggle to see any benefit at all but, given proper explanation, I might be able to accept some marginal advantage, some edge-case improvements. On the other hand, if it is a BJ policy...)
 
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This baffled me


Larry the cat has more right to miaow at the public than she does!
I heard a sentence or two on the television news. 'Struth I almost had sympathy for the audience. One of those utterly unconvincing speeches - words tumbling out of mouth without any meaning and even less emotion.

Larry maiows with real emotion.
 

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So the remainists are plotting a coup

I always did wonder how the establishment were going to stop Brexit. I didn't think it would as blunt as a coup. It's like something out of Nicaragua.

Fun to be watch them going against the will of the people yet saying they are acting for us.

Grieve is hilarious.
 

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This baffled me


Larry the cat has more right to miaow at the public than she does!
Please, no, not more climate change stuff. I’m suffering enough seeing Grettle Thumbum on a yacht every time I switch the news on. Now I hear that a crew is flying out to New York to fetch the boat back when she lands, and then she’s flying home after addressing the conference. SKYPE YOU DUMB BITCH SKYPE!!!! FFS.
 
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So the remainists are plotting a coup

I always did wonder how the establishment were going to stop Brexit. I didn't think it would as blunt as a coup. It's like something out of Nicaragua.

Fun to be watch them going against the will of the people yet saying they are acting for us.

Grieve is hilarious.
Fingers, what are you one about? how can you reverse reality in this way??
Boris is the one doing this
"Fun to be watch them going against the will of the people yet saying they are acting for us. "
Get real!
The coup was pulled by the Leave campaign aided by this bogus PM with his career psychopath Cummings .

Normal and rational people are trying to prevent these raving lunatics doing damage to the nation.
And the will of the people has changed, they have come out of the state of mind they were conned into by lies before the referendum.
Why are you now against honouring the will of the people?

Do try to keep up with reality
Thank you
 
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So the remainists are plotting a coup

I always did wonder how the establishment were going to stop Brexit. I didn't think it would as blunt as a coup. It's like something out of Nicaragua.

Fun to be watch them going against the will of the people yet saying they are acting for us.

Grieve is hilarious.
I don’t see it as a coup. I see it more in the way of a group of like minded MPs forming a majority, which is how parliament works. A coup is more akin to seizing power either by actual force or violence, or a threat of those things.

Even the most devout Brexiteer must now admit that the things which the Brexit campaign was fought on, no longer exist. Every main point used to sell Brexit has either turned out to be untrue, impossible to achieve or has been abandoned.

Now, in the absence of any claimed or stated advantages to leaving the EU whatsoever, an absolute void of ideas or ambition, it is only right that someone takes Brexit by the neck and puts it out of harms way. That’s not a coup, it’s an act of euthanasia.
 

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I don’t see it as a coup. I see it more in the way of a group of like minded MPs forming a majority, which is how parliament works. A coup is more akin to seizing power either by actual force or violence, or a threat of those things.

Even the most devout Brexiteer must now admit that the things which the Brexit campaign was fought on, no longer exist. Every main point used to sell Brexit has either turned out to be untrue, impossible to achieve or has been abandoned.

Now, in the absence of any claimed or stated advantages to leaving the EU whatsoever, an absolute void of ideas or ambition, it is only right that someone takes Brexit by the neck and puts it out of harms way. That’s not a coup, it’s an act of euthanasia.
I view it as more of a large dose of political Cascara, that should have been administered years ago.
Though only for safety reasons on a short term basis. :oops:
 
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Deck chairs and Titanic time:

The chancellor has refused to rule out reversing stamp duty so it is paid by the seller, rather than the buyer.


Not keen on that idea. I’ll just stick it on the house price, as will everyone else, so the buyer still pays. Stupid idea from a short-arsed squeaky voiced idiot.
 
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On Channel 4 last night he appeared to have changed sides, which rather confused me!
That's his diplomatic skills, making himself appeal a little more to the Leavers.

They won't be fooled though, they know his strong belief in the EU.
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I don’t see it as a coup. I see it more in the way of a group of like minded MPs forming a majority, which is how parliament works. A coup is more akin to seizing power either by actual force or violence, or a threat of those things.

Even the most devout Brexiteer must now admit that the things which the Brexit campaign was fought on, no longer exist. Every main point used to sell Brexit has either turned out to be untrue, impossible to achieve or has been abandoned.

Now, in the absence of any claimed or stated advantages to leaving the EU whatsoever, an absolute void of ideas or ambition, it is only right that someone takes Brexit by the neck and puts it out of harms way. That’s not a coup, it’s an act of euthanasia.

Of course you don't see it as a coup. It suits your narrative so therefore it's the right thing to do.

Yet only three or four posts before you wanted no deal to happen to show us all what for.

This is a problem with remainists. You haven't got a stance except to stop brexit or make people who did vote for it sorry. It's cultist.

What happens if you do get your way? What next? Rub along as it was before? The EU is desperately unpopular here. And in many parts of Europe. And it will only get worse.

The problems being stored up will get worse and the leaving will be even more acrimonious. We are not part of the EU. We are not part of the Euro. We will be leaving at some point, a lot of silly people who have no spine are trying to force a coup. How anyone with a brain takes the lid dems seriously is an anathema to me.
 
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